Fallout 4

[Emphraim]

Fallout 3 is almost perfect with mods. Only thing I would like to change is the main story. It seemed a bit convoluted and it should not include the BOS or Enclave. In Fallout 2, it seems like the Enclave had been finished, yet they suddenly came back in full force in Fallout 3. That annoyed me a bit.

Well it was in a completely new setting, just because the Enclave was almost wiped out in the old area dosn't mean they aren't going to be badass in the new setting. Also if I'm not mistaken the Enclave was basically the army before the bombs fell or at least thats what I got out of it, so wouldn't they be nation wide?

Actually, the Enclave was an organization made up of the descendants of politicians and military officers from before the war who have connections to large private corporations. They had their main base on the Poseidon Oil Rig on the West coast. What I don't get is, after the rig was blown up, how and why did the survivors cross the entire country to go the DC?

Yeah I just looked it up, they were a shadow coperation mainly comprised to keep "important" people alive. To answer your question I believe it was the fabled writer with the magic pencil that makes the story bend to his will haha. But I'm sure if you look on the vault wikia page it will give some kind of explination.

That's what annoys me... there isn't an actual explanation. The best I can find is this:

Spoiler

The Enclave was not destined to die with the oil rig. Remaining West Coast Enclave forces, under the command of Colonel Augustus Autumn's father rallied to the command of a new, enigmatic President, John Henry Eden, and rallied to the facility of Raven Rock on the East Coast. Unbeknownst to anyone but Autumn's father and later Autumn himself, Eden was in fact a ZAX super-AI developed by the Enclave in the pre-War period to allow the government to be continued in the event of disaster, and had achieved self-awareness and direction. Previously employed as Presidential adviser and Raven Rock administrator, Eden took command of the East Coast Enclave forces. For a further thirty years, the Enclave stayed shut up in Raven Rock, only sending out Eyebots to scout the wastes and transmit Enclave Radio to the denizens.

One line that says they moved east; no description of their movements, why, the dangers they faced, nothing. I guess Bethesda just was lazy with the story.

 

[Internet Kraken]

You should be able to join the Enclave in the next one.

No, no, no, no No NO!

They should be dead by now. I don't want to fight them again, or even join them.

I want Beth to put at least some thought into it, rather than just recycling ideas from the older games...

I agree. A new antagonist would be nice, but even learning more about the East coast super mutants would satisfy me.

I just don't want to deal with more Enclave crap.

Would be nice to see a fallout game that isnt based in North America, starting to get old.

That would ruin one of Fallout's major themes.

 

[Souplex]

It should take place in new york.
Co-op.
Vehicles.
More energy weapons.
Improve the repair system.

 

[cheese_wizington]

Co-op and vehicles would DESTROY the game. It would be like a crap mad max spinoff then.


And it would be BAD.

 

[Srkkl]

That's what annoys me... there isn't an actual explanation. The best I can find is this:

Spoiler

The Enclave was not destined to die with the oil rig. Remaining West Coast Enclave forces, under the command of Colonel Augustus Autumn's father rallied to the command of a new, enigmatic President, John Henry Eden, and rallied to the facility of Raven Rock on the East Coast. Unbeknownst to anyone but Autumn's father and later Autumn himself, Eden was in fact a ZAX super-AI developed by the Enclave in the pre-War period to allow the government to be continued in the event of disaster, and had achieved self-awareness and direction. Previously employed as Presidential adviser and Raven Rock administrator, Eden took command of the East Coast Enclave forces. For a further thirty years, the Enclave stayed shut up in Raven Rock, only sending out Eyebots to scout the wastes and transmit Enclave Radio to the denizens.

One line that says they moved east; no description of their movements, why, the dangers they faced, nothing. I guess Bethesda just was lazy with the story.

I think sense it was the first "real" console port they wanted to make the story new but with some original parts(for the old game fans) and like you said got lazy and didn't really think of why they were there. But I have to admit if it wasn't for The Vault I wouldn't know the history of the original games because I've never played them so I ignorantly accepted the story and actually liked it a lot.

 

[Emphraim]

That's what annoys me... there isn't an actual explanation. The best I can find is this:

Spoiler

The Enclave was not destined to die with the oil rig. Remaining West Coast Enclave forces, under the command of Colonel Augustus Autumn's father rallied to the command of a new, enigmatic President, John Henry Eden, and rallied to the facility of Raven Rock on the East Coast. Unbeknownst to anyone but Autumn's father and later Autumn himself, Eden was in fact a ZAX super-AI developed by the Enclave in the pre-War period to allow the government to be continued in the event of disaster, and had achieved self-awareness and direction. Previously employed as Presidential adviser and Raven Rock administrator, Eden took command of the East Coast Enclave forces. For a further thirty years, the Enclave stayed shut up in Raven Rock, only sending out Eyebots to scout the wastes and transmit Enclave Radio to the denizens.

One line that says they moved east; no description of their movements, why, the dangers they faced, nothing. I guess Bethesda just was lazy with the story.

I think sense it was the first "real" console port they wanted to make the story new but with some original parts(for the old game fans) and like you said got lazy and didn't really think of why they were there. But I have to admit if it wasn't for The Vault I wouldn't know the history of the original games because I've never played them so I ignorantly accepted the story and actually liked it a lot.

Ah, I always forget that Fallout 3 is also available for the consoles. In that case, I guess the story makes sense. Regardless, I hope they make a better, original story for Fallout 4.
(And set it in New York City, I want to kill ghouls on the R train that I take to school very day!)

 

[Zethos64]

Well Im pretty sure Fallout: New Vegas is going to count as Fallout 4, and its going to use the same engine as Fallout 3, The only thing I really want is a little more stability and better looking player models. But since this is Bethsoft we are talking about none of that will happen.

Well actually they are letting Obsidian entertainment take over for New Vegas, and since they have literally destroyed all the games they have come in to contact with ie. KOTOR II, and NWN 2 I doubt it will be any good at all.

 

[Guitar Gamer]

Co-op could work.

Vehicles: Nuh uh, no way, I'm not having that.

The other two is basically FO2.

amd your prize for being a person of great idea's: a cookie

you earned it

I would put more variety of clothing and power armor, and guns.................and people for that matter, more ghouls and in a city, for the love of god please put more than about 24 people, yes it's the holocaust but it's been 200 years, have people forgot about hanky panky besides that one.......er.............. buisness lady in megaton?

It should take place in new york.
Co-op.
Vehicles.
More energy weapons.
Improve the repair system.

Improve the medical system as well.
Though those things can be done with mods.

Also?
Better dialog.
More choices.
Better characterization.
More weapons.
The ability to not look retarded when you run in third person.

oh I'm sorry: we appear to be out of cookies, better luck next time and one thing I forgot, more haircuts, I'm usually gaming on a counsels due to the fact that my PC sucks so I can't mod them in, more haircuts, it totally matters
triple edit: and make a canada DLC for whatever it's set in

 

[Deef]

Better dialog.
More choices.
Better characterization.
More weapons.
The ability to not look retarded when you run in third person.

I think we'd all like to see an animation to walk diagonally, please and thank you.

 

[Kiutu]

Fallout 3 is almost perfect with mods. Only thing I would like to change is the main story. It seemed a bit convoluted and it should not include the BOS or Enclave. In Fallout 2, it seems like the Enclave had been finished, yet they suddenly came back in full force in Fallout 3. That annoyed me a bit.

Could just be because it was the other side of the country and they remained powerful?

I want it more TES styled, mainly with stats and leveling, but I am not an origional Fallout fan and was looking forward to the 'Oblivion with guns' thing. (So dont hate me origional Fallout fans, I just like TES alot >.>)

 

[AvsJoe]

I wouldn't mind an Eastern California setting that's chock full of ruins (including the Golden Gate Bridge) and borders the ocean. I also want to hear *even more* famous actors phoning it in. Throw in a dragon or two, that'll make the game perfect!

 

[Guitar Gamer]

I wouldn't mind an Eastern California setting that's chock full of ruins (including the Golden Gate Bridge) and borders the ocean. I also want to hear *even more* famous actors phoning it in. Throw in a dragon or two, that'll make the game perfect!

yes, lets prove Butch right and make dragons, and maybe more towns that aren't some makeshift shacks with guys holding hunting rifles beside them

edit: also since I never played the original 2 are the Brotherhood of Steel better with or without being the hero's of the wasteland?

 

[Spectrum_Prez]

Put it back in the isometric(sp?) view, such as in the First 3 games. Also, bring back the trait system.

Trait system, yes. Isometric view, no. Isometric view needs to die a painful death and be buried in an open grave. So many of the good things in Fallout 3 would simply not work with isometric view, such as the atmosphere in locations like Dunwich, the vista when you walk out of 101, the tension in dungeon crawls.

Fallout 4 wishlist:
Gameplay: tighten up the shooting, add special finishing moves for melee weapons in VATS, higher level cap balanced by more extensive specialization, better item creation system with less clutter (but not a total overhaul), better fast travel system.
Production values: better animations (critical, Bethesda, absolutely critical), tighter scripting and more extensive testing, less indoors/outdoors load times (would require an engine overhaul, so... doubtful).
Thematic: Different physical environment, same survival of society theme (recipe for success in Point Lookout). May I suggest something tropical, would Fallout: Miami be too much? At least that would provide a real use for the Lucky Sunglasses: blocking glare when a group of ghouls leap out at you from a stand of mutated palm fronds.

 

[Mcface]

Coop wont work because of Vats.
and if it has it, expect it to be like Fable 2s.

I want it to be harder.
by level 5 I had a huge amount of ammo, weapons and armor stashed, in my HOUSE.

it kills the whole point of a "survival" game when you have enough stuff to last 5 life times.

 

[Guitar Gamer]

I think we'd all like to see an animation to walk diagonally, please and thank you.

Actually, come to think of it, I'd prefer TES V.
Take all the dismembering goodness and put it in a setting where you can lop arms off and use magic that doesn't boil down to "fire bullet, electric bullet, ice bullet."

don't forget reddish blob bullet, well I'd be open for ether TES V or Fallout 4, but I do long to again be a giant green man with tusks without the pain of having 11 voice actors for a whole country

 

[Redd]

I've always wanted to go back and play the other FO games. Seeing as I've only played FO3 I can't really say I want anything changed or re-done.

I think tighter graphics and model designs, the ability to walk in a straight line in third person, though I don't know why the hell you'd want to be in third person in a essentially FPS type game, uhm some more outfit types, maybe some more hair and facial hair things, better character customization options would be just peachy, and maybe, just maybe, some better weapons.

That's really all you could ask for. Well all of that and a story that's doesn't end so quickly. Pull a page from TES, after you beat the game allow us to continue and go finish things we didn't get done. You insufferable morons.

 

[VargRaev]

No. Power. Armor.


Its alright if they add the BOS, but i feel that it ruins the idea of being a person who is trying to survive in the harsh wasteland, when you look like you forgot the way Halo 3 or Warhammer 40K.

 

[jboking]

More variety in the armor and some co-op would be nice(I think two player is the maximum number they should try to work with though).

As for vehicles: just no. Half of the fun of Fallout is adventuring on foot, knowing you don't have a quick getaway should something go awry. It makes it a little more exciting.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Put it back in the isometric(sp?) view, such as in the First 3 games. Also, bring back the trait system.

God no. The isometric view of Fallout 2 is complete garbage (for a modern game). I doubt a modern version of this would be much better. It's such a limiting viewpoint.

No. Power. Armor.


Its alright if they add the BOS, but i feel that it ruins the idea of being a person who is trying to survive in the harsh wasteland, when you look like you forgot the way Halo 3 or Warhammer 40K.

But then what would they put on the box? The box art allows shows some guy wearing power armor.

But seriously, as long as the BOS exists, there is going to be power armor. I doubt that they are going to be removed. Still, they could tone down the power of....power armor.

 

[Redd]

I think the idea of co-op might kill the VATS thing. I mean you stop the game and pick a target, would that really work for a Co-op thing? Ok, let me think about it for a second. Since it would more then likely be split screen, if they allow you to play Co-op offline because I don't play online Co-op unless I'm on WoW, go nerd power, so It doesn't really matter to me.

As for Power Armor..I agree 100%. It bloody well kills the whole feel of the survival aspect when you look like a big effing Knight in armor. I mean c'mon " Oh gee I hope this guy doesn't--wait I have Power Armor..I no cans die nao! " that just ruins the fun.