Fallout Announcement Confirmed!

[WonkyWarmaiden]

playing as a female character is important to me just as I'm sure the level of RPG'ness is important to others, were allowed to have different priorities

Welp, aside from irritation from focusing on the least important fuck-up that Bethesda is capable of, I was trying to convey that HERE it is literally the least important thing possible since you can't play as any gender character in Bethesda games. Because you don't play as a character there. You play as a power projection on a featureless dummy, having fun in a theme park.

So? What does it matter? I thought that was what video games were about, fun power trips and such. Also, just because you don't find the gender of the main character important doesn't mean others shouldn't. Some people, men and women, want to play a lady with a perfectly coiffed '50s housewife hairdo, that's just how it is.

 

[xSerix]

Pre-orders already available on steam for £50 or regional equivalent and is selling better than Witcher 3 on steam.

 

[WonkyWarmaiden]

I thought that was what video games were about, fun power trips and such.

Yes, please tell me how game about downfall of humanity that centers it's narrative on irredeemable conflict-bound and sinful nature of humans should be a fun power trip. Just like Silent Hill 2, Papers Please, This War of Mine or I don't know FIRST TWO GAMES - nothing like some power fantasy! /sarcasm

Oh, wait, a fun power trip is what Bethesda turned the series into, nevermind.

Okay so Fallout 3 wasn't as grim and depressing as the first games were. That doesn't mean it didn't have its moments. It's not like everything was sunshine and rainbows the whole time, it's just that Bethesda didn't feel the need to beat you over the head with how fucked the world was since it was pretty obvious when you stopped and took in the scenery.

Besides, when a game series changes hands the tone of the new games will be different. Just because the new Fallout games aren't like the old ones doesn't make one better or worse, just different visions of the same material.

 

[baddude1337]

Pre-orders already available on steam for £50 or regional equivalent and is selling better than Witcher 3 on steam.

Seems £50 is the new standard AAA PC price in the UK. Bit of a shame it's hiked up so much this gen, and makes the disparity in regional pricing more apparent for us (£50 = $76.08 USD).

 

[WonkyWarmaiden]

Okay so Fallout 3 wasn't as grim and depressing as the first games were.

Actually, Fallout 2 was not grim at all. And it DEFINITELY wasn't depressing. It was in fact far more lulzy and whimsical than F3. The thing is - it still was anything but a power trip created to entertain player. 'Tis a game about post-nuclear world, talking to the player on the language of black humor and satire. And even in it's jokes and allegories it was rather clever most of the time, and wasn't ashamed of treading the territory of it's own ideas.

Meanwhile, F3 is a game about nothing, that simply happened to be set in Fallout universe. But hey! You can save/blow up Megaton! Or exterminate/work with slavers! Or irrigate/poison the Wasteland! Why? What's the point of any of it? The context? The reasons? The world and it's people that we came here to see? Who cares when you can go around being literally Nuclear Jesus in awesome power armor! That annoying radio guy will even call you so, while you're having a laugh at the records of those duuuuuuumb and paranoid pre-War people.

So it's not the tone Bethesda fucked up. It's the substance. Oh, and they also couldn't write anything not overwhelmingly stupid if their lives depended on it.

Did you actually play Fallout 3 or did you immediately hate it because Bethesda made it? Dude, if you hate the new Fallout games so much then why do you even care about this series anymore? I highly doubt it will ever return to the way you prefer it.

Bethesda makes open-world games with tons of quests, that's what they do, and if you expect anything more or less you will be disappointed. For me, that's what I want and that's what I get.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Trailer looks pretty crap (animation quality in particular feels ten years old) and perhaps even a bit stodgy. After some 300 hours knocking around in FO3 and New Vegas this looks dangerously close to being more of the same, which could potentially get wearisome with startling rapidity.

That said, Bethesda has been trotting out the same open world formula since the late 90's and I haven't really gotten bored of it yet, so I'm sure I'll enjoy it well enough. Just not enough to get super excited about it.

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I can't deny you your predilections but the volume of your outrage is bonkers.

 

[WonkyWarmaiden]

Did you actually play Fallout 3 or did you immediately hate it because Bethesda made it?

Sinked more time in it than I'm comfortable to admit. Oh, I also find the entire TES series (sans TESO, because fuck TESO) to be the absolute masterpiece of exploration based adventure.
But then they chose to inbreed it with Fallout setting and refused to throw the resulting freak of a baby off a cliff.

Dude, if you hate the new Fallout games so much then why do you even care about this series anymore?

Because I just can't just stop caring about something parts of which I still really-really love. Obsidian occasionally storming in and being awesome all over my face does not help.
Well, that, and Todd Howard drinks all the water from my tap. And pisses into my cereal. And makes washing machine chew blankets and lightbulbs go out.

Bethesda makes open-world games with tons of quests, that's what they do

That's what they do NOW. Before they hired an entirely new development department - they could do that AND also good writing. See Morrowind. And if you expect them to remain like they are now forever in our age of discarded dev teams - you will be disappointed.

For me, that's what I want

My chaotic set of subjective preferences in electronic entertainment > Your chaotic set of subjective preferences in electronic entertainment

Whatever man. Have fun glaring hatefully at Bethesda or whatever. I'll be over here waiting for Fallout 4.

 

[Nieroshai]

Did you actually play Fallout 3 or did you immediately hate it because Bethesda made it?

Sinked more time in it than I'm comfortable to admit. Oh, I also find the entire TES series (sans TESO, because fuck TESO) to be the absolute masterpiece of exploration based adventure.
But then they chose to inbreed it with Fallout setting and refused to throw the resulting freak of a baby off a cliff.

Dude, if you hate the new Fallout games so much then why do you even care about this series anymore?

Because I just can't just stop caring about something parts of which I still really-really love. Obsidian occasionally storming in and being awesome all over my face does not help.
Well, that, and Todd Howard drinks all the water from my tap. And pisses into my cereal. And makes washing machine chew blankets and lightbulbs go out.

Bethesda makes open-world games with tons of quests, that's what they do

That's what they do NOW. Before they hired an entirely new development department - they could do that AND also good writing. See Morrowind. And if you expect them to remain like they are now forever in our age of discarded dev teams - you will be disappointed.

For me, that's what I want

My chaotic set of subjective preferences in electronic entertainment > Your chaotic set of subjective preferences in electronic entertainment

I have to admit: having just played Fallout 1 because it was on sale, I can't see your points. Its gameplay is different, clearly, but that's moot. Let's go to the story. You have to go find a component to keep your vault from running out of fresh water. You run into side quests along the way. You make a lot of utterly inconsequential decisions, as well as some big ones (WAY too many of which result in immediate game-overs, RIP roleplay?), then you have to stop a mutant invasion, all within a time limit that inhibits exploration unless you're highly proficient in all mechanics and already know where everything you need is. I haven't played the second game yet, but based on #1, FO3 not being a decent successor (being an action shooter instead of a TBS notwithstanding) sounds to me like nostalgia goggles. Having played 3 and NV, FO1 felt like FO3: the Board Game. Not more complex, not less complex, not better, not worse, but an ultimately similar roleplay game experience.