As a side note didn;t the maple leafs win the cup in the 1950-51 season? never again yes i know shut up, just thought it was a neat bit of trivia for my hockey hall of fame mission.
Fallout Canada???
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I was about to post Kent Paul from Vice City, but you can't play the guy.Amnestic said:
Oh well, I don't think that GTA could go somewhere else other than London now. If you're going to take references to mobster/gangster movies, it's pretty much all that's left.
I don't care where they put it, but I'd love it to take place in a snowy environment rather than the baron desert wastelands.
Yes there is. Many of the reoccurring character, themes, and factions are tied to the American setting. Making a Fallout game outside of America would throw all of this away. The company Vault-tec is one the first things many players would think of when you mention Fallout. Outside of America, Vault-Tec would be completley absent. The games biggest icon would not be present. You can't say that wouldn't be a problem.Silva said:
I may be wrong, but I don't think they did in the Fallout universe. Judging by what I remember from the intro to the first game, the European commonwealth fell apart long before the nuclear war due to a lack of supplies and infighting. So they were not in any sort of golden age. Other countries did not follow the same path as America, which is one of the reasons they are rarely mentioned. They had already fallen apart.
You're saying they should abandon all of the reoccurring themes of the game just to appeal to a larger audience. That would not be a good thing.
I'd imagine it would be an FPS called "Peter Jackson Presents: Skillet of Bacon 4: Modern Cuisine 2: The Official Game of the Movie"jmd102993 said:
You go around a World War 2 battlefield holding a slab of back bacon and cramming it down people's throats, scoring points for every soldier you feed.
There's also an advanced technique where you can move quicker by smoking the bacon while strafing. It's called wave-smoking, and only the l33t players do it.
Then you boycott the game when they announce there are no longer Dedicated Servers for XBL.
Because all Fallout games take place in America, they arent just going to change it just because canada got annexed.
I have to say that one of the arguments against a Canadian Fallout, wanting to see someplace that is familiar, is a bit off... Sure perhaps the Americans like that, but what about people living outside of the us? I have never been to Vegas, Never seen the real beauty of it... other then the bright lights you see in shows and movies and to me that is not showing me the true city that is Vegas. However, I still want to play it, even though its not a place I am familiar with. And I am sure others outside of the US don't care either... so why do the Americans care so much?
Chitown (hometown WHAT!) would make a great setting for a Fallout game, but I fear that Fallout Tactics being set in the Midwest (yeah, it's in the middle) would put that locale on the back burner for future settings. I'd love to see it though.CloggedDonkey said:
Ok, back on to the topic:
I'm not opposed to a Fallout game in Canada. I don't think the argument about the golden age is a good enough one. As some other posts have said, a lot of the Allied countries from WWII developed along relatively the same lines post-war (I don't think is the case in the Fallout universe, but mostly in the case of Europe more than Canada). You could still get the Fallout vibe with a slightly different setting. And Canada, in all honesty, is only slightly different than America in terms of a setting.
But most of you seem to forget that the U.S. annexed Canada in the Fallout universe anyway, so it's really just all the US. Just further north. Might even get a Canadian rebel faction or something going on; trying to restore the Great White North to it's former glory. Could be a good plot line really.
Well it would be nice to see simply because I live in Canada, but the Fallout series is very much tied into the American theme. It wouldn't make sense to change the setting, but it would make a nice mod or something of the kind.
I don;t think there's a reason to assume that Vault-tec would be absent, there's no reason to assume they only did buisness within american boarders, they are a company not a government agency.
Yes i will also admit that reoccuring themes give a pleasant tone to a game but ever they can only last for so long before you yern for something new and unfornunatly or foruntaly i've reached that point where i need something new.
Also some people seem to be forgetting that fallout 3 isn;t the world of the 1950's it's the extention of the world if 1950's dream technology had become funtional and practical in our everyday life, ie the military bots, the hover cars, etc. Its the embodiment of the greatest dreams and fears of the 1950's mindset. and that mindset i don;t beleive is limited to the american boarders.
We already know the brotherhood operates in different areas and really toronto is an 8 hour drive from new york, it's easily feasable it got hit by a stray nuke or one that got shot down.
An expansion pack? i suppose i would be satisfied with a large (very large) expansion pack lol. i'm not foolish enough to think it would warrent a full game.
Yes i will also admit that reoccuring themes give a pleasant tone to a game but ever they can only last for so long before you yern for something new and unfornunatly or foruntaly i've reached that point where i need something new.
Also some people seem to be forgetting that fallout 3 isn;t the world of the 1950's it's the extention of the world if 1950's dream technology had become funtional and practical in our everyday life, ie the military bots, the hover cars, etc. Its the embodiment of the greatest dreams and fears of the 1950's mindset. and that mindset i don;t beleive is limited to the american boarders.
We already know the brotherhood operates in different areas and really toronto is an 8 hour drive from new york, it's easily feasable it got hit by a stray nuke or one that got shot down.
An expansion pack? i suppose i would be satisfied with a large (very large) expansion pack lol. i'm not foolish enough to think it would warrent a full game.
Agreed.Internet Kraken said:
Most of the humour in Fallout comes from satirising the aesthetics and values of 1950s America. If it didn't have that it wouldn't really be Fallout.
While what that guy said up there about Fallout being essentially about Americana is right, but I'd still like to see a little more variety. I'm excited about the upcoming True Crime game just because it's set in Hong Kong, which is nothing like the US. (And also because while the first two games were bad, they had obvious potential and just weren't polished enough. But that's neither here nor there.)
I'd be happy with the current ones. Why isn't GTA London '69 available for free on Rockstar's site like the first two games?Amnestic said:Right after we get another British GTA game, guv'na
Or you could just set the game in Saskatchewan in the year 2010, since it's already a frozen wasteland...
OH SNAP!
But seriously, Canada just doesn't work as well as The US for a post-apocalyptic thing because we don't have as many people. All they would have to do is nuke along the St. Lawrence and that's half our country's popultaion gone. The rest of the country just isn't populated enough or it's too cold, survival wouldn't be interesting because nobody would even bother to glance at the the northern half or the territories, let alone nuke them. So let the Yankees have Fallout. Canadian ghouls would be too polite for you to have any fun killing them.
OH SNAP!
But seriously, Canada just doesn't work as well as The US for a post-apocalyptic thing because we don't have as many people. All they would have to do is nuke along the St. Lawrence and that's half our country's popultaion gone. The rest of the country just isn't populated enough or it's too cold, survival wouldn't be interesting because nobody would even bother to glance at the the northern half or the territories, let alone nuke them. So let the Yankees have Fallout. Canadian ghouls would be too polite for you to have any fun killing them.
YES! TO BOTH!Macar said:
Boston would be awesome with all our awesomeness and historical significances. Also with the commonwealth we would see an endless possibilities. Have they really started going forward again? Is the Charles River still dirty? Cleaner maybe (very possible)? I would LOVE to see the ability to "invent" weapons and such through technology in the MIT buildings.
Canada wouldn't be nuked just because it has no reason to be nuked. It would be slightly destroyed but nothing fun.
You could always play RIFTS [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifts_%28role-playing_game%29]. Canada is pretty awesome in the post-appocolypse there. Though I admit the rules are kinda all-over the place compared to something more structured like d20 so it's best enjoyed loosely.
We may not agree about a certain 'Tales' game, but you pretty much took the words out of my mouth on this. Fallout's universe should stay in America.Internet Kraken said:
