Fallout: New Vegas's Huge New Arsenal
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It may have been a bit shaky on the RPG front, being more of a sandbox shooter, but it wasn't a bad game, I had alot of fun with it, and it's taken many hours of my time and yeah just because it's an opinion that doesn't mean you don't have to justify it, an opinion still has to have roots in reality.Coaxill said:
You know, I played all three Fallouts, and while it's good to have some loyalty to a developer that has provided you with great games (Fallouts 1 and 2) that's no reason to immediately write off a game as bad because it's from a different developer, I think it's unfair to hate a game because of the developer, each game should be judged purely on it's own merits as a game, and not by who made it.Andronicus said:
And personally, I think Fallout 3 was a great game, and that Bethesda did an expert job of modernizing the gameplay without obliterating the individuality of the series. The gameplay of Fallouts 1 and 2 simply wouldn't work today, it needed to be brought up to par with the new capabilities of gaming machines.
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I still find it pretty funny that The Escapist put out this news story COMPLETELY as an advertisement for their bigger article, hey guys, I thought advertising things in the forums was against the rules?
Now here is the interesting question, could a mod suspend himself? Lol
It sounds to me that you hate the game purely because of who made it, that's pretty narrow minded and stupid in my opinion.Coaxill said:
Judge the game for the game, not the developer.
Nerdfury said:
Typically, at least in my version of the English language, that means "The game will feature twice as many guns as there were in Fallout 3"John Funk said:
One of the things I didn't like about Fallout 3, unlike many other rpgs I had played, was that I wasn't tripping over new weapons every 5 meters of a dungeon I had traveled. Twice as many is, admittedly, twice as many, which is good. But i'm still not going to be able to fill a two story house with my arsenel of unique guns.
I you feel slighted because I insulted your favourite game evah, worry not, because I am still fucking excited about this game. There could be just two guns (a pistol and a rifle, for preferance ^^) and i'd still be fucking excited. It's just, this article seems to be boasting about the huge arsenal of guns avaliable in the game, which doesn't excite me, because it doesn't seem that impressive, especially in comparison to borderlands (yes I know all the guns looked similar, but they were different, because they hurt things differently), and my current PC version of fallout topped to the brim with mods.
If they were going to combine any two skills together it should have been Small Guns+Energy Weapons. Both these types are basically the same type of weapon with a different basic look. Big Guns however are a completely different beast. Choosing between Big Guns and Small is a tricky business, choosing whether you want to go with the practical yet less damaging weapon or if big damage counts even if ammo and weight can be a problem.Composer said:
Squashing these two skills together removes that decision element and further reins Fallout away from the RPG world (though of coarse once you reached lvl 20 in Fallout 3 you had so many points it didn't really matter what you chose,Broken Steel didn't help that problem).
But I've been following New Vegas pretty closely and I've never heard this before so I'm thinking it's mis information or bullshit.
We could redo :Shapsters said:
The scene from Bioshock!
If you are able to make a perfect charatar in a RPG everybody will rushed to it and it will destroy the RPG element of the game. Instead of making a charatar based on your design, people will just rush to the "perfect charatar" that is able to do everything in the game.Composer said:
Big guns in Fallout 3 was way too situational to put points into.Glazin said:
Usually, they end up using up way too much ammo to be used constantly, so you still have to have a respectable amount of points in another weapon skill, which you'll end up using much more anyway.
On top of that, some of the energy weapons actually end up more powerful than most big guns anyway.
And chances are that you're putting points into big guns just so you can use the fat boy effectively.
Which means you'll be carrying around a 30... err... 'unit', or whatever, heavy weapon that you'll use like once or twice throughout the game.
When there's a skill that's extremely situational, and often isn't even that much of an advantage anyway, you have a pretty severe design flaw on your hands, to be honest.
Actually in retrospect I think I read that they got rid of energy weapons and made it Big Guns and Small Guns. But I can't be sure.
All the skills are extremely situational, lockpicking are only for locks, hacking only for computers, repair is for repairing and so on.Denamic said:
It the combined skills that let people make their charatars how they want and build skill combos that fit their style of play. In fact Big Guns were a lot less situational than most of the skills in game.
