Fallout talk

[MrJKapowey]

some times i feel as if Mr. new veges has the easiest job. he just stays in his studio playing music and telling news. also what material would you think would be need to dress like the NCR

Spoiler: Spoiler relating to Mr New Vegas

I believe he's an AI.

Erm, any NCR uniform. I usually wear Ranger patrol with a green beret.

 

[finecrazydud]

some times i feel as if Mr. new veges has the easiest job. he just stays in his studio playing music and telling news. also what material would you think would be need to dress like the NCR

Spoiler: Spoiler relating to Mr New Vegas

I believe he's an AI.

Erm, any NCR uniform. I usually wear Ranger patrol with a green beret.

thank you and if mr. new vegas is an AI that would explain a good amount. quickly to my newsman fedora

 

[Jason Fayers]

Sorry about the double post it was ment to be a reply.

 

[Jason Fayers]

I was just about to ask you all which you preferred, Fallout 3 or New Vegas. I played New Vegas first, and I'm currently playing 3. I've heard a lot of mixed reviews on this subject, but I think I still like New Vegas better.

Also anybody play the latest DLC yet?

I think the hate on New Vegas is because it feels more like an add-on than a new game at least that's why I didn't like the game as much as I liked Fallout 3. Then again I like fallout 2 more than 1 so I guess I'm a hypocrite.

It is a good game though and I look forwad to playing it propperly once I get all the add-ons are out.
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[HT_Black]

So who else thought Joshua Graham was totally wasted in Honest Hearts? Because I totally think he was.

Also, how about that whole "Irrelevant stupid plot thread in FO3" becomes "Nifty little easter egg in Old World Blues" thing? Pretty nice, I think.

 

[FalloutJack]

Okay, so... Lately when I was at something called The Sangawa Project, a guy there had cobbled together his idea of a totally random Fallout tabletop game. We're talking grid map, minis, random-roll characters with Fallout stuff in the place of what would normally be there. There were so many weird things you could end up being, like a super mutant with dwarfism or a guy who's mutated into being part tree (like Harold) or a radioactive man with psychic powers who may as will be a Fallout Sith Lord!

This randomosity in character type and origins and all the fun that was had in making it up would - at least to me - lend credence to the idea that a Fallout game should let you choose your past and origins, or at least try to. Maybe you get the same missions, but you still have different origins, attributes, motivations, etc. and not everything happens or can happen in the same order. As an idea, it could lead to a more entertaining game or at least allow for a bold new attempt into the field to pioneer it for others.

What do you say, fellow Escapists?

 

[ChupathingyX]

So who else thought Joshua Graham was totally wasted in Honest Hearts? Because I totally think he was.

Pleas elaborate,yeh he wasn't as signifiacnt as I thought he would be but he was still an interesting character tha presents a good story of redemption through religion and test for existence.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

EDIT: Not sure what Fallout: Tactics is, but I might give that a go as well.

Fallout Tactics is a mission driven game that has a similar conceit to Icewind Dale. You create a player character and then you recruit (from a list) 5 additional characters. You then go on missions for the Brotherhood of Steel. Non-combat interactions are largely minimized and combat situations themselves have been dramatically ramped up to compensate for the larger character count. The game also included a new semi-real time system. You still spent and generated Action Points but combat happened simultaneously on both sides. The action points themselves simply determine how quickly one fires their weapon.

It had the weakest narrative out of the old games by a fair margin but it was the one I most preferred to play.

 

[Sinclair Solutions]

Fallout 3 had some great music. I downloaded more songs from the 40's and 50's than I ever expected I would. Also, V.A.T.S. really never got old. And that super mutant with the chain gun? Here's a fun story: I was actually able to get rid of all my guns except a pistol, because I knew he would kill anything before it got even close to me. Fun times.

 

[LookingGlass]

I didn't find Dogmeat in my fast-travel-filled first playthrough of Fallout 3. I found him within about 2 hours this time without looking.

But he kept dying and annoying me so I sent him to Vault 101 for being a bad dog.

.... What? Do you have the brotherhood of Steel DLC? If so, then you're making a mistake. He levels up with you, and by the time you hit level fifteen, he can practically solo multiple deathclaws. By the time you're level twenty, you can fire mini-nukes at him and he won't die.

I don't have any DLC.

Will he have leveled up with me even though I've left him at the Vault for about 10 levels? Or is he just going to be crap forever now? I found him at level 3 or 4 and I think I'm at 13 or 14 now.

 

[5t3v0]

Fallout 3 is the best title in the series. So many people complain about it but I seriously think it was the best game in the entire series... Damn "ruining the lore" or the story, etc. etc.

You better be trolling...

 

[neonsword13-ops]

Don't feed the Yao Guai.

That is all.

 

[Laser Priest]

I recently returned to Fallout 3 after playing New Vegas.

God, I forgot how terrible Bethesda's grasp of human speech is. The dialogue in Fallout 3 is significantly more of a punishment than its Deathclaws.

 

[C95J]

EDIT: Not sure what Fallout: Tactics is, but I might give that a go as well.

Fallout Tactics is a mission driven game that has a similar conceit to Icewind Dale. You create a player character and then you recruit (from a list) 5 additional characters. You then go on missions for the Brotherhood of Steel. Non-combat interactions are largely minimized and combat situations themselves have been dramatically ramped up to compensate for the larger character count. The game also included a new semi-real time system. You still spent and generated Action Points but combat happened simultaneously on both sides. The action points themselves simply determine how quickly one fires their weapon.

It had the weakest narrative out of the old games by a fair margin but it was the one I most preferred to play.

Cool, I might give it a try after I've played a bit more Fallout. Thanks for the info

 

[.No.]

Don't feed the Yao Guai.

That is all.

I still remember the first time I ran into a Yao Guai in Fallout 3. I was about to get to Rivet City (I think) and hadn't saved the game for a while. I heard it, and noticed I was losing health. I pulled out my combat shotgun thinking " That attacker isn't going to know what hit it." I turned around, and started yelling in terror while firing a few rounds. It didn't help.

 

[LookingGlass]

I didn't find Dogmeat in my fast-travel-filled first playthrough of Fallout 3. I found him within about 2 hours this time without looking.

But he kept dying and annoying me so I sent him to Vault 101 for being a bad dog.

.... What? Do you have the brotherhood of Steel DLC? If so, then you're making a mistake. He levels up with you, and by the time you hit level fifteen, he can practically solo multiple deathclaws. By the time you're level twenty, you can fire mini-nukes at him and he won't die.

I don't have any DLC.

Will he have leveled up with me even though I've left him at the Vault for about 10 levels? Or is he just going to be crap forever now? I found him at level 3 or 4 and I think I'm at 13 or 14 now.

He only levels with you if you have the BoS DLC. Although, even without it, he can be useful seeing as how you can take both him and a different follower with you.

I must admit, until you said this, I had no idea that you could even recruit followers/companions in Fallout 3. I didn't realise that feature of 1 and 2 had made it in. I might have to go looking for one.

 

[ks1234]

Fallout 3 is the best title in the series. So many people complain about it but I seriously think it was the best game in the entire series... Damn "ruining the lore" or the story, etc. etc.

You better be trolling...

Not even a little bit

 

[5t3v0]

Fallout 3 is the best title in the series. So many people complain about it but I seriously think it was the best game in the entire series... Damn "ruining the lore" or the story, etc. etc.

You better be trolling...

Not even a little bit

*Insert rage post about you not knowing what is truly garbage... etc. In full capitals with lots of explicit language*

WARNING! TL; DR AHEAD

But seriously, Fallout 3 wasn't. It was poorly written and poorly balanced. The Poorly written part Isn't even complaint about the lore breakages (Though I have MANY of those), its just clichéd, predictable and restrictive with no real freedom apart from choosing to do nothing or unwittingly poison the wasteland because some computer told you that the virus you were inserting was beneficial. Its also senseless, why, if you follow the quest line with bad karma due to you doing things like blowing up megaton, selling a kid off to slavery, etc. Do you still follow what your dad wanted you to do? I mean sure, he is your father, but if you were that much of a dick your dad would probably be the next on your list of people to kill and/or maim. And the NPC's. Paper cutouts if they were anything. Fawkes was the only follower to have any substance, but even then that was lost on me, Everyone else had 5 seconds of backstory before they just faded into a (semi) friendly raider, a BoS paladin, a pissed off ghoul, a robot, and a slave with privelages. Though Moira Brown and some of the enclave were redeeming features to an otherwise bland cast

Obsidian Did a better job with New Vegas, bugs aside. Damage Threshold for armour had a much needed return, Weapons were expanded upon, Perks weren't chosen every level so you actually had to think about your choices and Enemies were actually challenging (see FNV Deathclaws, Cazadors and the BIGGER deathclaws)for a great deal. The writing actually allowed you for freedom and you didn't feel like you were on some sort of rail network. The characters were done nicely. Background characters and even offscreen characters had more substance than the Follower NPC's, take Randall Clark (the survivalist) from Honest Hearts for example, The Follower NPC's were done nicely in that regard as well. Its funny. Extra credits talked badly about Fallout New Vegas, but it fit in more with the content they talked about in other episodes than Fallout 3 did, such as the inclusion of non-stereotypical Homosexual characters (Arcade ganon and Veronica), and choices having a true effect.

But no. Fallout New Vegas fell into the pit of "Its just like Fallout 3, But shit because its not bethesda" Fan Dumb. it didn't help that Bethesda rushed it out the door last year as well.

Another thing. while I have beef with Fallout 3, I do love it. It was my first Fallout game, and through it and the fallout wiki, I discovered the entire franchise. Its just now I have new Vegas, its needless to me, as New Vegas fits in with both lore and accessible gameplay for a young mind like mine.

 

[Jack_Uzi]

If a deathclaw claws death, claws death a deathclaw?

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

I have only played Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Is it worth buying Fallout off Steam? You know, the one that was released in 1997. Is it a fun game to play? How different is it from the ones I have played?

Its VERY different, but its really damn good.

Now, if it just didn't hate my graphics card, causing irritating color errors all over the place...