Famitsu Astrologer Predicts He Will Be Vague in 2010

theSovietConnection

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Saucycardog said:
While I dont like people who use vague predictions, I dont think that means that I can trample all over astrology or the people who believe in it. So please tito and people, this thread should be about the guy predictions or what's to come in 2010. Not about how one belief is false or stupid. If you want to discuss that, please start a thread in the debate section.

Anyway, I think one good prediction is that microsoft is going to to better than sony in 2010. I mean, look at all these good titles.

Lost planet 2
Halo: Reach
Final fantasy XIII
Bioshock 2
Dantes Inferno
Mass effect 2
Fable III
Splintor cell: Conviction
Fallout: New vegas
Dead rising 2

And there still some yet to announced.
Okay, no offense, but what? Half your list is composed of multi-platform releases. How does that mean its better for Microsoft?
 

Jared

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Simalacrum said:
wow, this news is poking a lot of fun at Famitsu :p

Why doesn't The Escapist have some really random preacher or something anyways? That would be awesome! XD
It certainly would be entertaining, lol.

Although gotta love how vauge they are...
 

Icecoldcynic

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Gaming is indicated in stars? I could have sworn stars and planets were formed before games were made.
 

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Silva said:
A charming, tolerant attitude was displayed in this article towards an esoteric belief that is more spread and widely believed worldwide than even Christianity.

I'm sorry, my sarcasm is dripping out of my face. Excuse me, but when did The Escapist become an atheists-only opinion page? I thought that this was a gaming forum where religion and politics were discussed, not put on a pedestal and stabbed around. A bit of journalistic objectivity would be preferable, thank you very much.

The attacks you make on astrology are grounded in false ideas of what it actually is. Anyone who thinks it is chiefly or even secondarily a predictive or fatalistic system has no idea what real astrology is about. Secondly, anyone who thinks that newspaper horoscopes are actually written by astrologers, is a fool.

Horoscopes are treated by most media hierarchies as something that you let the freelancer beginner do. They do not hire anyone with knowledge of the real ancient art form that is understanding the planets. That is why they usually end up being vague, useless things that are laughed at by atheists and real astrologers alike. Famitsu's is no exception, especially since this was obviously done with tongue firmly in cheek.

Show some respect, Tito, and read about something before you spread misinformation.
Show some respect to what, exactly? The "fake" astrology or the "real" one?
Seems to me like a no true Scotsman fallacy.
Astrology is about the positions of celestial bodies according to our reference frame, and how it relates to mundane human matters. The most common use of it is for predictive ability and love-compatibility. Do you reject those uses as "false" astrology? Because they are, in fact, complete BS.

There is in fact, no scientific basis for any modern astrology, though there is scientific basis as to why people believe in it. Predictions made are intentionally vague, which allows creative liberties in interpretation. There is no demonstrated greater love compatibility between members of the correct signs than for incompatible couples. People have a natural tendency to interpret vague things in the most personally-applicable way. Distant astral bodies do affect us through gravity and EM radiation, but their effects are dozens of orders of magnitude less than that of the close bodies. There is no falsifiable hypothesis that has ever been shown to be correct in support of the "theory" that astral bodies cause significant emotional or behavioral changes in humans.

Why believe in something with absolutely no evidence? Is the massive quantity of believers your reason? Because apparently, they're doing it wrong, by your own testimony.

You must just have faith. Faith in a mythology-derived, superstition-driven, unproven, disproven when testable, otherwise untestable set of beliefs.

Your position is untenable, because in order to accept astrology, even the "real" astrology you practice with no predictive power, which claims that there exists a non-causal link between earthly events and extraterrestrial events, requires the suspension of disbelief. And non-mechanical form of interaction? We live in a world of observable reality, everything we know about reality is based on physical phenomena. Frankly, there is absolutely no evidence to support the position that non-physical effects exist and could manifest physical effects, since all physical phenomena derive from other physical phenomena. It is really an attempt by astrologers to exempt astrology from scientific scrutiny, since it just cannot stand the test of reality.

Rejection of astrology need not necessitate atheism either. I am sure even scientifically minded Christians find its premise lacking. I suppose atheism need not necessitate disbelief in astrology either, though I would think it more likely. Regardless, I reject your suppositions, and claim this article as entirely funny, and valid. If you cannot even stand somebody noting that the predictions of this astrologer are something anybody could have guessed, then perhaps you should re-examine your position.
 

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this is a new low for astrologist's, i mean they have always been vague and predicted pretty obvious things, but for one to "predict" that Nintendo will make an sequel next year, which Nintendo them self predicted earlier this year, its so stupid it makes my head hurt.

the rest where just normally funny stupid, also the Escapist should get an astrologer.
 

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Woodsey said:
How do the planets/stars tell you about f*cking video and computer games, exactly?

And really? 2010 a livelier year? I have no idea how he got that impression; all that's happened this year was an en masse exodus of nearly everything to next year.

I'd be grinning like that if I could spout total bullshit once in a while and (likely) be well-paid for it.
Macksheath said:
You sir speaketh the truth much.
Wow, you much have THE GIFT. Take £3 million from me now, and I shall employ you on the stock market to become RICH, RICHER THAN GOD, MUWHAHAHAHA....

Oh, and Merry Christmas.
 

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theSovietConnection said:
Saucycardog said:
While I dont like people who use vague predictions, I dont think that means that I can trample all over astrology or the people who believe in it. So please tito and people, this thread should be about the guy predictions or what's to come in 2010. Not about how one belief is false or stupid. If you want to discuss that, please start a thread in the debate section.

Anyway, I think one good prediction is that microsoft is going to to better than sony in 2010. I mean, look at all these good titles.

Lost planet 2
Halo: Reach
Final fantasy XIII
Bioshock 2
Dantes Inferno
Mass effect 2
Fable III
Splintor cell: Conviction
Fallout: New vegas
Dead rising 2

And there still some yet to announced.
Okay, no offense, but what? Half your list is composed of multi-platform releases. How does that mean its better for Microsoft?
Your are right. I guess that was bad on my part. But I do think that microsoft has bigger titles, like halo, planned for the Xbox than Sony does for the PS3.
 

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Silva said:
A charming, tolerant attitude was displayed in this article towards an esoteric belief that is more spread and widely believed worldwide than even Christianity.

I'm sorry, my sarcasm is dripping out of my face. Excuse me, but when did The Escapist become an atheists-only opinion page? I thought that this was a gaming forum where religion and politics were discussed, not put on a pedestal and stabbed around. A bit of journalistic objectivity would be preferable, thank you very much.

The attacks you make on astrology are grounded in false ideas of what it actually is. Anyone who thinks it is chiefly or even secondarily a predictive or fatalistic system has no idea what real astrology is about. Secondly, anyone who thinks that newspaper horoscopes are actually written by astrologers, is a fool.

Horoscopes are treated by most media hierarchies as something that you let the freelancer beginner do. They do not hire anyone with knowledge of the real ancient art form that is understanding the planets. That is why they usually end up being vague, useless things that are laughed at by atheists and real astrologers alike. Famitsu's is no exception, especially since this was obviously done with tongue firmly in cheek.

Show some respect, Tito, and read about something before you spread misinformation.
I agree with most of what's stated here.
A legitimate gaming magazine is using a astrologer and you are openly disrespecting them by attacking their employee's work.
Can you please show some respect?
 

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While the fallacy of astrology is to be determined, the point is that the article is supposed to be journalistic, not a blog. Therefore, it would be professional to not let the journalist's opinion on the matter at hand slip into the article. Considering the post Mr. Tito made was moderately biased, I believe Silva's point was that the article should have been a little more read over before being posted.
 

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Slick Samurai said:
Calatar said:
While the fallacy of astrology is to be determined, the point is that the article is supposed to be journalistic, not a blog. Therefore, it would be professional to not let the journalist's opinion on the matter at hand slip into the article. Considering the post Mr. Tito made was moderately biased, I believe Silva's point was that the article should have been a little more read over before being posted.
Biased in favor of reality? Should journalistic integrity require the equal-footing of all viewpoints regardless of whether or not they actually have any factual backing? Astrology is decidedly fake. It is about as real as alchemy, and as pseudo-scientific. Frankly I've had enough of that sort of crap, where reality and make-believe are put on equal footing in the name of journalistic objectivity. What about objective REALITY?

The post just looks at the wonderful cosmological predictions that anybody with knowledge of the gaming industry could have made, and says, "No shit, Sherlock." And on this site, all articles are at least half-commentary. NYT reporters they are not; these articles are not SUPPOSED to be free of personal bias, they are supposed to be entertaining and enlightening, just as this article was.

Sparecash said:
A legitimate gaming magazine is using a astrologer and you are openly disrespecting them by attacking their employee's work.
Can you please show some respect?
And again I say: respect for what? This article very clearly spells out that the "work" of that employee is shit anybody could have said. Astrology is not real. And since when are reporters automatically supposed to inherently be nice to other companies?