Fan Project to get Breath of the Wild Running on PC Makes Major Progress

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Lizzy Finnegan said:
It's unlikely that this will last, as Nintendo is less than fond of unofficial emulators. We've reached out for comment and will update this post should we receive a response.
Are you actively dragging emulator development into the spotlight for it to die now?
That's not nice.
 

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Randomosity said:
Now on the exclusivity note, this is interestingly enough not a problem unique to games. Exclusivity is everywhere. Wal-Mart and other retailers often will have exclusive products. Taco bell has its own exclusive flavor of mountain dew. Netflix and Hulu have exclusive series. And don't even get me started on sports broadcasting. It sucks, but that is how business works.
Hilariosly, this also extends to the aforementioned Blu-ray players and discs. In order to legally make blu-ray players, discs, or software, you have to pony up some serious cash.
 

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So they bought a WiiU game and are trying to upgrade that so they can enjoy the gameplay more?
I see nothing wrong with that.

I'll change my opinion on them once they start distributing/selling that product or the means on how to do it without first purchasing the product.
 

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People here truly deluding themselves if they think the emulation of it isn't 99.9% going to be used to just pirate this shit.
 

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ROMs don't grow on trees, you need to have the game data for them, which ideally comes from legally purchased games you already own.

When my PS2 inevitably croaks I'm gonna PCSX2 that beauty and I won't shed a single tear on behalf of Sony because I don't want my catalogue ending up gathering dust.
 

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Kibeth41 said:
Imre Csete said:
ROMs don't grow on trees
Neither does all of the data for pirated software. Lol. What an absolutely garbage argument.

you need to have the game data for them, which ideally comes from legally purchased games you already own.
Where do you think the files come from on torrent sites? Do you think a literal pirate sneaks into a Best Buy to steal it?

It's astounding how many in-denial escapist members there are. So many are trying to rationalize to themselves that it's okay for them to pirate something because they've renamed the act. Shame the mods have zero consistency.
Emulation, just like gaming, comes with a legal way to do it and an illegal way to do it.

The choice is eventually the user's.

I don't feel bad for playing my games because there is a way to pirate them, same deal with emulation.
 

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gmaverick019 said:
making people buy a whole system just for one game is stupid, regardless of it being nintendo/sony/microsoft/etc

plus if this emulator keeps going on pc, it'll be the superior version, easy.
So you're condoning piracy because you don't like the other games on the Switch?

You seem to think that you get to pick and choose when it's okay.
It's only when Nintendo is involved.
 

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It's neat on a technical level that, considering the emulator emulates Wii U hardware presumably, they are getting it to run better than the Wii U version already does, unless they are fiddling with things to allow it to draw from their whole PCs specs.

Is it piracy? Well I can pop in games I own into my computer and play them with the right programs, its how I keep playing old PS1 games after one of them had a problem with the spinning of my discs. Anyone know the laws on playing software you own on hardware that it wasn't intended for? I imagine it may not be super consistent.

I hope they get it all working and just sit there laughing as Nintendos biggest game for at least most of the year has technical issues on both system releases. Even if minor depending on mode or system that is not a seal of quality for me, get your asses back to the drawing board. Really woulda liked to have BoTW delayed on Switch so it took better advantage of the tech inside.

All in all, emulators can be used for shady purposes or not purely on the player, I'm not gonna harp on the devs of the emulator for anything. If Nintendo has beef I'd donate a few hundred to help with legal costs as they challenge such a claim, you got an issue you talk to players.
 

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Such as? They've released it on two home consoles. I mean a private enterprise has a right to make their products more competitive and desireable. It strikes me as the same entitled behaviour as when Bayonetta 2 was released as a Nintendo exclusive because Nintendo was the only company to put their hand in their pockets to help make it a reality.

Is Nintendo suddenly beholden to surrendering their right to act in their own corporate good?

By your logic alone, most other exclusives are worst offenders because all other competitor consoles are even more lousy with backwards compatibility of old games.
No kidding. I can understand ridiculing a company due to bad treatment of employees (Konami), questionable business practices (Activision), obtrusive DRM (Ubisoft) or insufferable employees (Ninja Theory), but when the argument for advocating piracy Nintendo boils down to "I don't want them to succeed because how dare they make me pay for the games they make themselves" that's getting into outright petulant, juvenile territory. It's not an argument, it's stamping your feet.
 

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This is good news not because of Zelda but because it means fan translations of game never localized in the west might occur. It also means that future censored games like Tokyo Mirage from last gen may be able to get bad translations and censorship removed. I am quite excited about the prospect of forcing Nintendo's hand to get around some of NoA's more shitty practices.
 

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Yeah no, I'm gonna have to say "Too soon". Say what you want about keeping copies, having your 10 year old console break down or convenience. The Switch hasn't been out for a month yet, and all you'd ever need this for at the moment is 99% piracy. Call me in a few years when the Switch or it's games aren't available anymore, or the HDMI output isn't "good enough" for 8K displays, but right now there is a perfectly good way to enjoy these games, and that's right there on the Switch itself.
 

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It's clearly not running at 30fps for most of it, maybe not any, but it's impressive how much progress has been made so quickly.
 

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NLS said:
Yeah no, I'm gonna have to say "Too soon". Say what you want about keeping copies, having your 10 year old console break down or convenience. The Switch hasn't been out for a month yet, and all you'd ever need this for at the moment is 99% piracy. Call me in a few years when the Switch or it's games aren't available anymore, or the HDMI output isn't "good enough" for 8K displays, but right now there is a perfectly good way to enjoy these games, and that's right there on the Switch itself.
You can rest easy then, because the Wii U is getting 5 years old.
 

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NLS said:
Yeah no, I'm gonna have to say "Too soon". Say what you want about keeping copies, having your 10 year old console break down or convenience. The Switch hasn't been out for a month yet, and all you'd ever need this for at the moment is 99% piracy. Call me in a few years when the Switch or it's games aren't available anymore, or the HDMI output isn't "good enough" for 8K displays, but right now there is a perfectly good way to enjoy these games, and that's right there on the Switch itself.
Might want to read the actual post before commenting...
I mean really, it's the first damn sentence of the article: "The team behind Wii U-to-PC"
They didn't emulate the Switch, they're working with the Wii U version.
 

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Man, lotta people leaping on the WiiU age but not many commenting on the game being three weeks old. That's intriguing.
 
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Kibeth41 said:
gmaverick019 said:
making people buy a whole system just for one game is stupid, regardless of it being nintendo/sony/microsoft/etc

plus if this emulator keeps going on pc, it'll be the superior version, easy.
So you're condoning piracy because you don't like the other games on the Switch?

You seem to think that you get to pick and choose when it's okay.
uh what, you want to put words in my mouth? In multiple posts already I've said I haven't pirated in over 15 years and I don't plan to ever again, but that doesn't magically make it so I can't say this emulated version will be the superior version *very* soon judging by their rate.

pick and choose when it's okay? I just said across the board I had the same opinion regardless of who or what it is....?
 

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Man, lotta people leaping on the WiiU age but not many commenting on the game being three weeks old. That's intriguing.
Or, you know ... where both consoles can still be bought. But hey; 'no bad tactics' ...

The funny thing is that by using their own rhetoric, it would have been morally sounder if Nintendo did what most exclusive games do and merely brought it to a single device. Instead Nintendo ported it to two consoles, to increase accessibility of their products without feeling as if to pretend it isn't allowed to have exclusives.

I mean, it's either an indictment on gamer entitlement, or it's a thumbs up to Nintendo for making quality products people want to steal and pretend like they're morally justified to do so. Seriously, people are literally arguing that people can pirate stuff 'cos Nintendo.

Rationalize it as much as you want... if you can't condone it for far more exclusive games relegated to a single console, you can't condone it for Nintendo choosing to have it on two consoles that you can purchase for yourself.
 

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"No bad tactics, only bad targets..."?

TrulyBritish said:
You know, as much as this could further piracy I really don't have any sympathy for Nintendo.
I'd love to give the Zelda games a try but I'm simply not going to buy a whole separate console to do so.
At some point a company has to stop being surprised at Piracy when they make it less convenient for consumers to buy that product.

Note Escapist: I am not in anyway condoning Piracy or suggesting I am going to do so. I just think companies lose the right to complain when they add more hurdles to the "want-thing-buy-thing" method.
Such as? They've released it on two home consoles. I mean a private enterprise has a right to make their products more competitive and desireable. It strikes me as the same entitled behaviour as when Bayonetta 2 was released as a Nintendo exclusive because Nintendo was the only company to put their hand in their pockets to help make it a reality.

Is Nintendo suddenly beholden to surrendering their right to act in their own corporate good?

By your logic alone, most other exclusives are worst offenders because all other competitor consoles are even more lousy with backwards compatibility of old games.
They absolutely have that right, nor did I say I was going to pirate it (because I'm not, I'm just not going to play their games) or say it was morally ok you to pirate, just that I don't think companies should be surprised when people do their games.
It's interesting you bring up Bayonette when that is a case where exclusivity was justified. Platinum couldn't afford to make it without help and they had to make a deal, so I don't blame Platinum.
Nintendo does not have that excuse though, nor did I say this is a Nintendo only thing as I dislike the idea of exclusives generally. Guess what, won't be playing Uncharted 4 for a good while either.
 
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Kibeth41 said:
gmaverick019 said:
uh what, you want to put words in my mouth? In multiple posts already I've said I haven't pirated in over 15 years and I don't plan to ever again, but that doesn't magically make it so I can't say this emulated version will be the superior version *very* soon judging by their rate.

pick and choose when it's okay? I just said across the board I had the same opinion regardless of who or what it is....?
Condoning the act =/= committing the act.

Your first comment is in full support of ripping the data of BotW so people don't need to buy a switch.

Exclusivity is literally the reasoning as to why you said you support this. But that issue isn't solved without distribution of the ripped product, which is piracy. The people making the ROM still need to buy everything in order to rip it.
I said it was stupid for (nintendo in this case) someone to buy a console for this one game (I have multiple friends who have done this already for BotW), I didn't condone someone pirating it, I applauded the superior version showing nintendo up on their shitty hardware. (this could be microsoft/sony and halo/uncharted for all I care)

yes, to which did I say anything about pirating it/playing it in spite of nintendo? no? Okay then. Please continue feeding words into my mouth, I'm not full yet.
 

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The insane thing with this is whether there's a single person on the planet who uses this emulator to pirate Breath of the Wild or any other game or not that emulating the game is even needed in the first place. Breath of the Wild and every other exclusive game should just be available on PC and multiple platforms aside from Nintendo ones to purchase and run legally as a matter of course to begin with. Monopolies are supposed to be illegal in the US and plenty of other countries yet blatant examples are everywhere, not just with exclusive video games.