FEAR Question

[Kiutu]

I got worried when the first few responses were just outright wrong. I am glad to see though, that people who paid attention popped in to correct them so that I don't have to.

 

[Farseli]

She just changes her form at will. I think it shows that in the first one Alma was trapped and expressed herself in a younger form, while in 2 she's free to assume her true form.

Yep, you nailed it. By the way, is the second one worth getting?

Short answer: no. Long answer: no. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.87940#1334794]

Anyway, she was 8 when she was put in her coma in the Vault, so that's how she sees herself, and therefore how she manifests her spirit. At the end of FEAR and the entirety of FEAR 2, you're seeing her actual, physical body, which is 15.

Umm sorry but you're not seeing any actual physical body. Story deposition says she died six days after Harlan pulled the plug on her life support systems. so that isn't her actual body. It's her psychic imprint. It just so happens that her psychic imprint is so strong that she can still manifest herself years after her death.

Just because she's dead doesn't mean she can't reanimate her body. I mean, that seems to have been the entire point of FEAR 1: she was getting Fettel to open the Vault so she could get out with her body. I mean, why else would we see her as her 16 year old self? She sure as hell sees herself as the 8 year old, so why project as something else unless we're seeing her actual, physical presence? Also, how is a remote mental projection going to rape Beckett?

He was also in the enhancer machine, also, right after she is done she is shown to be quite far along with the pregnancy. Something that fast wouldn't happen in her actual body. If it was her actual body I wouldn't understand all the teleporting and disappearing she does. Her psychic ghost was trapped in the vault and she could only reach out from it. She needed it opened so that her image could escape and not just her "arms". So yeah, she had psychic sex with him and is now going to have a psychic baby.

 

[Asaito]

She just changes her form at will. I think it shows that in the first one Alma was trapped and expressed herself in a younger form, while in 2 she's free to assume her true form.

Yep, you nailed it. By the way, is the second one worth getting?

Short answer: no. Long answer: no. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.87940#1334794]

Anyway, she was 8 when she was put in her coma in the Vault, so that's how she sees herself, and therefore how she manifests her spirit. At the end of FEAR and the entirety of FEAR 2, you're seeing her actual, physical body, which is 15.

Umm sorry but you're not seeing any actual physical body. Story deposition says she died six days after Harlan pulled the plug on her life support systems. so that isn't her actual body. It's her psychic imprint. It just so happens that her psychic imprint is so strong that she can still manifest herself years after her death.

Just because she's dead doesn't mean she can't reanimate her body. I mean, that seems to have been the entire point of FEAR 1: she was getting Fettel to open the Vault so she could get out with her body. I mean, why else would we see her as her 16 year old self? She sure as hell sees herself as the 8 year old, so why project as something else unless we're seeing her actual, physical presence? Also, how is a remote mental projection going to rape Beckett?

The reason for opening the vault was that it was a telesthetic dampener, it contained a small fraction of her mental power. If it was opened, she could release her full psychic energy. If it was reanimation, the body could not do many of the things Alma does in the game that are not physically possible. Plus, as Farseli pointed out she was 26 when she died. It was not physical rape. Even if she reanimated herself, she could not give birth. Medically, it would not be possible without a beating heart, but in the game universe, she could realistically give birth to an imprint. Not a projection, as that alludes to her broadcasting her mind from another location, but a manifestation of the joint psychic energies of Beckett and herself.

 

[Avatar Roku]

She just changes her form at will. I think it shows that in the first one Alma was trapped and expressed herself in a younger form, while in 2 she's free to assume her true form.

Yep, you nailed it. By the way, is the second one worth getting?

Short answer: no. Long answer: no. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.87940#1334794]

Anyway, she was 8 when she was put in her coma in the Vault, so that's how she sees herself, and therefore how she manifests her spirit. At the end of FEAR and the entirety of FEAR 2, you're seeing her actual, physical body, which is 15.

Umm sorry but you're not seeing any actual physical body. Story deposition says she died six days after Harlan pulled the plug on her life support systems. so that isn't her actual body. It's her psychic imprint. It just so happens that her psychic imprint is so strong that she can still manifest herself years after her death.

Just because she's dead doesn't mean she can't reanimate her body. I mean, that seems to have been the entire point of FEAR 1: she was getting Fettel to open the Vault so she could get out with her body. I mean, why else would we see her as her 16 year old self? She sure as hell sees herself as the 8 year old, so why project as something else unless we're seeing her actual, physical presence? Also, how is a remote mental projection going to rape Beckett?

He was also in the enhancer machine, also, right after she is done she is shown to be quite far along with the pregnancy. Something that fast wouldn't happen in her actual body. If it was her actual body I wouldn't understand all the teleporting and disappearing she does. Her psychic ghost was trapped in the vault and she could only reach out from it. She needed it opened so that her image could escape and not just her "arms". So yeah, she had psychic sex with him and is now going to have a psychic baby.

That makes sense, I suppose. But that leaves one outstanding issue: why was she her 16+ year old self? It would make sense for her mental projection to be how she sees herself, and she would probably see herself as she was before she was put in her coma, i.e her 8 year old self.

EDIT:

The reason for opening the vault was that it was a telesthetic dampener, it contained a small fraction of her mental power. If it was opened, she could release her full psychic energy. If it was reanimation, the body could not do many of the things Alma does in the game that are not physically possible. Plus, as Farseli pointed out she was 26 when she died. It was not physical rape. Even if she reanimated herself, she could not give birth. Medically, it would not be possible without a beating heart, but in the game universe, she could realistically give birth to an imprint. Not a projection, as that alludes to her broadcasting her mind from another location, but a manifestation of the joint psychic energies of Beckett and herself.

Points taken. But that still leaves the above question.

 

[Farseli]

She just changes her form at will. I think it shows that in the first one Alma was trapped and expressed herself in a younger form, while in 2 she's free to assume her true form.

Yep, you nailed it. By the way, is the second one worth getting?

Short answer: no. Long answer: no. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.87940#1334794]

Anyway, she was 8 when she was put in her coma in the Vault, so that's how she sees herself, and therefore how she manifests her spirit. At the end of FEAR and the entirety of FEAR 2, you're seeing her actual, physical body, which is 15.

Umm sorry but you're not seeing any actual physical body. Story deposition says she died six days after Harlan pulled the plug on her life support systems. so that isn't her actual body. It's her psychic imprint. It just so happens that her psychic imprint is so strong that she can still manifest herself years after her death.

Just because she's dead doesn't mean she can't reanimate her body. I mean, that seems to have been the entire point of FEAR 1: she was getting Fettel to open the Vault so she could get out with her body. I mean, why else would we see her as her 16 year old self? She sure as hell sees herself as the 8 year old, so why project as something else unless we're seeing her actual, physical presence? Also, how is a remote mental projection going to rape Beckett?

He was also in the enhancer machine, also, right after she is done she is shown to be quite far along with the pregnancy. Something that fast wouldn't happen in her actual body. If it was her actual body I wouldn't understand all the teleporting and disappearing she does. Her psychic ghost was trapped in the vault and she could only reach out from it. She needed it opened so that her image could escape and not just her "arms". So yeah, she had psychic sex with him and is now going to have a psychic baby.

That makes sense, I suppose. But that leaves one outstanding issue: why was she her 16+ year old self? It would make sense for her mental projection to be how she sees herself, and she would probably see herself as she was before she was put in her coma, i.e her 8 year old self.

She did wake up both times she was brought out to give birth. And they do mention that she really didn't like them taking her babies away from her. She was also very unstable by that point. I think that is why we see both forms. Instability mixed with mother rage. That's why I think the older version of her is more like a 16 version and not the 26 version (when she died) since 16 was the last time she was awake.

 

[Asaito]

The game says she woke up from her coma during the birth. The pointman was born when she was 15, Fettel was born when she was 16. She obviously found these to be traumatic events and therefore manifests herself as the last time she was conscious, when she was 15 or 16.

So basically you get the two times she was consciously experiencing severely traumatic events, i.e. her father sealing her away and her babies being taken from her.

 

[Asaito]

@ Farseli- Why do we always end up ganging up on people in forums? I mean, this always happens...

 

[Farseli]

@ Farseli- Why do we always end up ganging up on people in forums? I mean, this always happens...

One of us points the thread out to the other person, and then since we tend to agree on these things we end up being on the same side.

I still wanna know what role the child is going to play in the next game (assuming we don't get expansions that will get retcon'd out again...)

 

[Avatar Roku]

She just changes her form at will. I think it shows that in the first one Alma was trapped and expressed herself in a younger form, while in 2 she's free to assume her true form.

Yep, you nailed it. By the way, is the second one worth getting?

Short answer: no. Long answer: no. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.87940#1334794]

Anyway, she was 8 when she was put in her coma in the Vault, so that's how she sees herself, and therefore how she manifests her spirit. At the end of FEAR and the entirety of FEAR 2, you're seeing her actual, physical body, which is 15.

Umm sorry but you're not seeing any actual physical body. Story deposition says she died six days after Harlan pulled the plug on her life support systems. so that isn't her actual body. It's her psychic imprint. It just so happens that her psychic imprint is so strong that she can still manifest herself years after her death.

Just because she's dead doesn't mean she can't reanimate her body. I mean, that seems to have been the entire point of FEAR 1: she was getting Fettel to open the Vault so she could get out with her body. I mean, why else would we see her as her 16 year old self? She sure as hell sees herself as the 8 year old, so why project as something else unless we're seeing her actual, physical presence? Also, how is a remote mental projection going to rape Beckett?

He was also in the enhancer machine, also, right after she is done she is shown to be quite far along with the pregnancy. Something that fast wouldn't happen in her actual body. If it was her actual body I wouldn't understand all the teleporting and disappearing she does. Her psychic ghost was trapped in the vault and she could only reach out from it. She needed it opened so that her image could escape and not just her "arms". So yeah, she had psychic sex with him and is now going to have a psychic baby.

That makes sense, I suppose. But that leaves one outstanding issue: why was she her 16+ year old self? It would make sense for her mental projection to be how she sees herself, and she would probably see herself as she was before she was put in her coma, i.e her 8 year old self.

She did wake up both times she was brought out to give birth. And they do mention that she really didn't like them taking her babies away from her. She was also very unstable by that point. I think that is why we see both forms. Instability mixed with mother rage. That's why I think the older version of her is more like a 16 version and not the 26 version (when she died) since 16 was the last time she was awake.

The game says she woke up from her coma during the birth. The pointman was born when she was 15, Fettel was born when she was 16. She obviously found these to be traumatic events and therefore manifests herself as the last time she was conscious, when she was 15 or 16.

So basically you get the two times she was consciously experiencing severely traumatic events, i.e. her father sealing her away and her babies being taken from her.

Points taken once again. I'm still not convinced, but I think that's more to do with how long I saw it my aforementioned way than any particular faults in your logic.

For the sake of discussion, however: traumatic though the births may have been, she could not have been awake long enough at either event for her to get an accurate self image. Along with that, why would she see herself as a rotting corpse if she was very much alive during those events? My theory as of this moment is actually that Monolith just put this in without thinking about it, although that could be my outspoken distaste with FEAR 2 speaking.

 

[Asaito]

@ Farseli- Why do we always end up ganging up on people in forums? I mean, this always happens...

One of us points the thread out to the other person, and then since we tend to agree on these things we end up being on the same side.

I still wanna know what role the child is going to play in the next game (assuming we don't get expansions that will get retcon'd out again...)

Ok so, the agreeing thing. You can't talk to a person every day for 2 1/2 years without starting to agree on stuff.

And yeah that would bug me. Especially because the Easter Egg in Extraction Point was the most satisfying egg ever! And then they retcon'd and yeah, I was angry.

So basically I pretty much see FEAR 3 as being completely awesome or a POS like certain things become when they continually try to one-up themselves to the point of lunacy. I mean, we know the third seed of Alma has to be uber-powerful because Alma is crazy powerful and Beckett obviously is pretty special, especially amplified. So it basically hinges on whether or not Alma has the psychic connection as she does with Fettel or she doesn't as with the pointman.

 

[Asaito]

She just changes her form at will. I think it shows that in the first one Alma was trapped and expressed herself in a younger form, while in 2 she's free to assume her true form.

Yep, you nailed it. By the way, is the second one worth getting?

Short answer: no. Long answer: no. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.87940#1334794]

Anyway, she was 8 when she was put in her coma in the Vault, so that's how she sees herself, and therefore how she manifests her spirit. At the end of FEAR and the entirety of FEAR 2, you're seeing her actual, physical body, which is 15.

Umm sorry but you're not seeing any actual physical body. Story deposition says she died six days after Harlan pulled the plug on her life support systems. so that isn't her actual body. It's her psychic imprint. It just so happens that her psychic imprint is so strong that she can still manifest herself years after her death.

Just because she's dead doesn't mean she can't reanimate her body. I mean, that seems to have been the entire point of FEAR 1: she was getting Fettel to open the Vault so she could get out with her body. I mean, why else would we see her as her 16 year old self? She sure as hell sees herself as the 8 year old, so why project as something else unless we're seeing her actual, physical presence? Also, how is a remote mental projection going to rape Beckett?

He was also in the enhancer machine, also, right after she is done she is shown to be quite far along with the pregnancy. Something that fast wouldn't happen in her actual body. If it was her actual body I wouldn't understand all the teleporting and disappearing she does. Her psychic ghost was trapped in the vault and she could only reach out from it. She needed it opened so that her image could escape and not just her "arms". So yeah, she had psychic sex with him and is now going to have a psychic baby.

That makes sense, I suppose. But that leaves one outstanding issue: why was she her 16+ year old self? It would make sense for her mental projection to be how she sees herself, and she would probably see herself as she was before she was put in her coma, i.e her 8 year old self.

She did wake up both times she was brought out to give birth. And they do mention that she really didn't like them taking her babies away from her. She was also very unstable by that point. I think that is why we see both forms. Instability mixed with mother rage. That's why I think the older version of her is more like a 16 version and not the 26 version (when she died) since 16 was the last time she was awake.

The game says she woke up from her coma during the birth. The pointman was born when she was 15, Fettel was born when she was 16. She obviously found these to be traumatic events and therefore manifests herself as the last time she was conscious, when she was 15 or 16.

So basically you get the two times she was consciously experiencing severely traumatic events, i.e. her father sealing her away and her babies being taken from her.

Points taken once again. I'm still not convinced, but I think that's more to do with how long I saw it my aforementioned way than any particular faults in your logic.

For the sake of discussion, however: traumatic though the births may have been, she could not have been awake long enough at either event for her to get an accurate self image. Along with that, why would she see herself as a rotting corpse if she was very much alive during those events? My theory as of this moment is actually that Monolith just put this in without thinking about it, although that could be my outspoken distaste with FEAR 2 speaking.

If she was awake long enough to realize what was happening and to react in the way she did, which you see in numerous "memories" from the pointman and from different story depositions, she must have been able to catch a glimpse of the emaciated body she would have plainly stretched out before her eyes. And you have to admit, she couldn't have been 26 in her manifestation because she was still in a coma when she physically died.

She is not seen as a rotting corpse. She is, however, seen as extremely skeletal which would be the look of any person who hadn't eaten solid food for eight years. (She was on life support and in a coma-complete liquid diet.)Which kinda of is another point as to why she can't be reanimating her body, after 18 years in a coma in what I'd assume is a near weightless environment inside that sphere, her body should be deteriorated to the point of not being able to move at all despite the energy Alma may exert on it.

 

[Avatar Roku]

Ultra snip!

If she was awake long enough to realize what was happening and to react in the way she did, which you see in numerous "memories" from the pointman and from different story depositions, she must have been able to catch a glimpse of the emaciated body she would have plainly stretched out before her eyes. And you have to admit, she couldn't have been 26 in her manifestation because she was still in a coma when she physically died.

She is not seen as a rotting corpse. She is, however, seen as extremely skeletal which would be the look of any person who hadn't eaten solid food for eight years. (She was on life support and in a coma-complete liquid diet.)Which kinda of is another point as to why she can't be reanimating her body, after 18 years in a coma in what I'd assume is a near weightless environment inside that sphere, her body should be deteriorated to the point of not being able to move at all despite the energy Alma may exert on it.

True. I still stand by my Monolith-is-lazy theory, however. One thing, however, regarding your last point. Do you remember what Project Icarus was designed for? Seems like it may not have been as big of a problem as you make it out to be.

 

[Farseli]

She just changes her form at will. I think it shows that in the first one Alma was trapped and expressed herself in a younger form, while in 2 she's free to assume her true form.

Yep, you nailed it. By the way, is the second one worth getting?

Short answer: no. Long answer: no. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.87940#1334794]

Anyway, she was 8 when she was put in her coma in the Vault, so that's how she sees herself, and therefore how she manifests her spirit. At the end of FEAR and the entirety of FEAR 2, you're seeing her actual, physical body, which is 15.

Umm sorry but you're not seeing any actual physical body. Story deposition says she died six days after Harlan pulled the plug on her life support systems. so that isn't her actual body. It's her psychic imprint. It just so happens that her psychic imprint is so strong that she can still manifest herself years after her death.

Just because she's dead doesn't mean she can't reanimate her body. I mean, that seems to have been the entire point of FEAR 1: she was getting Fettel to open the Vault so she could get out with her body. I mean, why else would we see her as her 16 year old self? She sure as hell sees herself as the 8 year old, so why project as something else unless we're seeing her actual, physical presence? Also, how is a remote mental projection going to rape Beckett?

He was also in the enhancer machine, also, right after she is done she is shown to be quite far along with the pregnancy. Something that fast wouldn't happen in her actual body. If it was her actual body I wouldn't understand all the teleporting and disappearing she does. Her psychic ghost was trapped in the vault and she could only reach out from it. She needed it opened so that her image could escape and not just her "arms". So yeah, she had psychic sex with him and is now going to have a psychic baby.

That makes sense, I suppose. But that leaves one outstanding issue: why was she her 16+ year old self? It would make sense for her mental projection to be how she sees herself, and she would probably see herself as she was before she was put in her coma, i.e her 8 year old self.

She did wake up both times she was brought out to give birth. And they do mention that she really didn't like them taking her babies away from her. She was also very unstable by that point. I think that is why we see both forms. Instability mixed with mother rage. That's why I think the older version of her is more like a 16 version and not the 26 version (when she died) since 16 was the last time she was awake.

The game says she woke up from her coma during the birth. The pointman was born when she was 15, Fettel was born when she was 16. She obviously found these to be traumatic events and therefore manifests herself as the last time she was conscious, when she was 15 or 16.

So basically you get the two times she was consciously experiencing severely traumatic events, i.e. her father sealing her away and her babies being taken from her.

Points taken once again. I'm still not convinced, but I think that's more to do with how long I saw it my aforementioned way than any particular faults in your logic.

For the sake of discussion, however: traumatic though the births may have been, she could not have been awake long enough at either event for her to get an accurate self image. Along with that, why would she see herself as a rotting corpse if she was very much alive during those events? My theory as of this moment is actually that Monolith just put this in without thinking about it, although that could be my outspoken distaste with FEAR 2 speaking.

I thought the game was pretty fun...but yeah. The problem I have is that I think she should be MORE rotted. I'm just remembering how it looked when she was let out near the end of FEAR. It was a dark force that turned Wade into bones and no physical body to be seen yet she still left those bloody foot prints.

I do agree that there are things that don't make much sense. Some of her actions in the games don't make too much sense but maybe they just want to write those off as "She is crazy!!!" Also, I noticed when playing FEAR 2 that she actually has two self-images of her older self. She has the creepy bony version, and then she has the slim, but still possibly healthy version. And in the same scene she can flicker back and forth.

 

[NoNameMcgee]

The ending of F.E.A.R. 2 was bananas. Totally confused me and then when I actually figured what happened I thought.. Well that was not only bloody disturbing in a bad way but also quite random and stupid. :/

 

[Avatar Roku]

The ending of F.E.A.R. 2 was bananas. Totally confused me and then when I actually figured what happened I thought.. Well that was not only bloody disturbing in a bad way but also quite random and stupid. :/

I couldn't figure it out immediately either, but when I did, my first thought was "well, that was lazy writing." Think about it, all good twists have some sort of foreshadowing so you can look back and go "damn, how did I not see that coming?" As it stands, it's almost like the folks at Monolith were sitting around a table, and having this conversation:

-"We need to find a way to end the game."
-"Is there enough sex in the game?"
-"No, we're below quota."
-"Then just say she raped him."

 

[Asaito]

Ultra snip!

If she was awake long enough to realize what was happening and to react in the way she did, which you see in numerous "memories" from the pointman and from different story depositions, she must have been able to catch a glimpse of the emaciated body she would have plainly stretched out before her eyes. And you have to admit, she couldn't have been 26 in her manifestation because she was still in a coma when she physically died.

She is not seen as a rotting corpse. She is, however, seen as extremely skeletal which would be the look of any person who hadn't eaten solid food for eight years. (She was on life support and in a coma-complete liquid diet.)Which kinda of is another point as to why she can't be reanimating her body, after 18 years in a coma in what I'd assume is a near weightless environment inside that sphere, her body should be deteriorated to the point of not being able to move at all despite the energy Alma may exert on it.

True. I still stand by my Monolith-is-lazy theory, however. One thing, however, regarding your last point. Do you remember what Project Icarus was designed for? Seems like it may not have been as big of a problem as you make it out to be.

Icarus was for combating bone-density loss in zero-g. To my knowledge, this just meant replacing the bones with composites, so if only the bones were replaced, all the musculature would have rotted and we'd be left with a composite skeleton, not the Alma we see.

 

[Asaito]

The ending of F.E.A.R. 2 was bananas. Totally confused me and then when I actually figured what happened I thought.. Well that was not only bloody disturbing in a bad way but also quite random and stupid. :/

I couldn't figure it out immediately either, but when I did, my first thought was "well, that was lazy writing." Think about it, all good twists have some sort of foreshadowing so you can look back and go "damn, how did I not see that coming?" As it stands, it's almost like the folks at Monolith were sitting around a table, and having this conversation:

-"We need to find a way to end the game."
-"Is there enough sex in the game?"
-"No, we're below quota."
-"Then just say she raped him."

Yeah... it took me like 10 minutes to fully grasp what had happened and then all I could think was "Eww, well that's unfortunate and extremely awkward." And then, "So would Beckett have been committing psychic statutory?"

 

[Avatar Roku]

Ultra snip!

If she was awake long enough to realize what was happening and to react in the way she did, which you see in numerous "memories" from the pointman and from different story depositions, she must have been able to catch a glimpse of the emaciated body she would have plainly stretched out before her eyes. And you have to admit, she couldn't have been 26 in her manifestation because she was still in a coma when she physically died.

She is not seen as a rotting corpse. She is, however, seen as extremely skeletal which would be the look of any person who hadn't eaten solid food for eight years. (She was on life support and in a coma-complete liquid diet.)Which kinda of is another point as to why she can't be reanimating her body, after 18 years in a coma in what I'd assume is a near weightless environment inside that sphere, her body should be deteriorated to the point of not being able to move at all despite the energy Alma may exert on it.

True. I still stand by my Monolith-is-lazy theory, however. One thing, however, regarding your last point. Do you remember what Project Icarus was designed for? Seems like it may not have been as big of a problem as you make it out to be.

Icarus was for combating bone-density loss in zero-g. To my knowledge, this just meant replacing the bones with composites, so if only the bones were replaced, all the musculature would have rotted and we'd be left with a composite skeleton, not the Alma we see.

True, I suppose. That was just the first thing to spring to mind when you brought up the physical issues inherent in the Vault. Thing is, I looked it up in the FEAR wiki [http://fear.wikia.com/wiki/Icarus] (everything has a wiki nowadays) and it sounds almost tailor made for Origin*. Only problem is that it appears to have been unsucessful, but that could have been a cover up. Or who knows, maybe I'm just looking for a Chekhov's Gun [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitlexn9xzsjd5fif] where there is none.

Spoiler: * This part in particular

but NASA wanted their subjects to maintain bone density during periods of both microgravity and stasis.

 

[Farseli]

Ultra snip!

If she was awake long enough to realize what was happening and to react in the way she did, which you see in numerous "memories" from the pointman and from different story depositions, she must have been able to catch a glimpse of the emaciated body she would have plainly stretched out before her eyes. And you have to admit, she couldn't have been 26 in her manifestation because she was still in a coma when she physically died.

She is not seen as a rotting corpse. She is, however, seen as extremely skeletal which would be the look of any person who hadn't eaten solid food for eight years. (She was on life support and in a coma-complete liquid diet.)Which kinda of is another point as to why she can't be reanimating her body, after 18 years in a coma in what I'd assume is a near weightless environment inside that sphere, her body should be deteriorated to the point of not being able to move at all despite the energy Alma may exert on it.

True. I still stand by my Monolith-is-lazy theory, however. One thing, however, regarding your last point. Do you remember what Project Icarus was designed for? Seems like it may not have been as big of a problem as you make it out to be.

Now...as I wanted to say before my DNS cache decided that it wanted to forget where this website was located..and then Asaito responded but not exactly how I wanted it said....

Icarus was about the lost of bone density problem, which I guess they solved by replacing bones with carbon fiber composite bones. Somehow that works and that is what the replica soldiers have..I guess. I got that from the wiki..must have been in one of the expansions..

Anyway, who cares about Icarus? It's all about Project Pythagoras.

 

[Asaito]

Ultra snip!

If she was awake long enough to realize what was happening and to react in the way she did, which you see in numerous "memories" from the pointman and from different story depositions, she must have been able to catch a glimpse of the emaciated body she would have plainly stretched out before her eyes. And you have to admit, she couldn't have been 26 in her manifestation because she was still in a coma when she physically died.

She is not seen as a rotting corpse. She is, however, seen as extremely skeletal which would be the look of any person who hadn't eaten solid food for eight years. (She was on life support and in a coma-complete liquid diet.)Which kinda of is another point as to why she can't be reanimating her body, after 18 years in a coma in what I'd assume is a near weightless environment inside that sphere, her body should be deteriorated to the point of not being able to move at all despite the energy Alma may exert on it.

True. I still stand by my Monolith-is-lazy theory, however. One thing, however, regarding your last point. Do you remember what Project Icarus was designed for? Seems like it may not have been as big of a problem as you make it out to be.

Icarus was for combating bone-density loss in zero-g. To my knowledge, this just meant replacing the bones with composites, so if only the bones were replaced, all the musculature would have rotted and we'd be left with a composite skeleton, not the Alma we see.

True, I suppose. That was just the first thing to spring to mind when you brought up the physical issues inherent in the Vault. Thing is, I looked it up in the FEAR wiki [http://fear.wikia.com/wiki/Icarus] (everything has a wiki nowadays) and it sounds almost tailor made for Origin*. Only problem is that it appears to have been unsucessful, but that could have been a cover up. Or who knows, maybe I'm just looking for a Chekhov's Gun [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitlexn9xzsjd5fif] where there is none.

Spoiler: * This part in particular

but NASA wanted their subjects to maintain bone density during periods of both microgravity and stasis.

Yeah, ok, I was going to say that Alma would have been blown up in the explosion at the end of FEAR 1 anyway, but then Farseli pointed out that if she wasn't far behind, she could gave survived just as you and your team do. So yeah, disregard post I guess.

On another note, I didn't think FEAR 2 was all that bad. A little out there and not quite as good as FEAR 1, but not horrible.