They're removing Male Link from the game now?BiH-Kira said:But it is pandering. The whole freaking game is pandering and fanservice (mostly tasteful if you ask me). Did you even play the game?Leonardo Huizar said:$5 says that certain group of critics are going to call this 'pandering' and 'Ms. Man-ing'
And I'm one of the people who have a problem with this. 80% of the freaking roaster are female character. Is it really necessary to fuck up an existing character and genderswap him? No amount of "it's not Link, it's his sister" won't make this any better since it's obviously Link genderswapped.
I do agree that it doesn't ruin the character, mostly because Link really doesn't have a huge amount of character to begin with outside of Twilight Princess, parts of LTTP, and a part of Skyward Sword.GZGoten said:a gender swap Link won't ruin the characterBiH-Kira said:And I'm one of the people who have a problem with this. 80% of the freaking roaster are female character. Is it really necessary to fuck up an existing character and genderswap him? No amount of "it's not Link, it's his sister" won't make this any better since it's obviously Link genderswapped.
Linkle/Aryll having the same fighting style or looking an awful lot like her brother that comes from the same mom and dad isn't that rare.
Remember this is a fusion of different Zelda universes and timelines, so it could easily be explained as in her world she inherited the Triforce of Courage from the previous hero and everyone else in her world is normal, Ganondorf is the king of the Gerudo and Zelda is the queen/princess of Hyrule. The triforce simply chose someone else from the hero's descendants
Isn't "Link's" name always just what you the player set it as at the begging of the game? I didn't think the name was actually officially canon, except maybe for the first two games.GZGoten said:if she is in the 3DS version I hope her name is changed to Aryll and not Linkle which sounds totally stupid
Except she's alot more than a placeholder most of the time...Link goes nowhere without her, he doesn't beat Ganon without her, he has literally no idea what's going on outside of what he sees, and has no comprehension of it because he's most often a country nobody for all intents and purposes.Happyninja42 said:Meh, I'd like to actually see a Legend of ZELDA game be about Zelda. I don't really care if they gender swap Link, but give the character who's name is the actual title of the franchise, her own story/game. Where she get's to go do some interesting stuff, not as a side character in Link's story, but her own story. I mean come on, she's one of the bearer's a Triforce, she's hardly a placeholder in their reality.
what you say about copy pasting is true which is why I hope that this is in fact Aryll and not fem-Link for the simple reason that like you said anyone can inherit the triforce of courage so blood isn't even a requirement. Aryll/Linkle could have a similar fighting style but with some subtle differences, it shouldn't be to drastic of a change since she still would wield the Master Sword and there's not many ways you can wield a long sword. Maybe she can use a sword and crossbow combination and not have a shieldRedryhno said:I do agree that it doesn't ruin the character, mostly because Link really doesn't have a huge amount of character to begin with outside of Twilight Princess, parts of LTTP, and a part of Skyward Sword.
However, it's been a big thing that the hero having descendents is not really important, as it's more the soul of the hero than the blood of the hero that determines if Courage hits them. But if she has roughly the same fighting style and design, exactly what's the point in a game solely designed around spectacle over story? Seems alot like just copy-pasting. Another thing would be that every timeline they've pulled from has had an actual game with the character in it so far. With obviously the exception being the "story" of the base game.
Link has always been Link. In the games, the cartoon, the comic, the manga and in Hyrule Historia, that's his official name, that a lot of people change his name to P3N15-Breath, yes that's true but it doesn't change the fact that according to the official story his name is LinkOlas said:Isn't "Link's" name always just what you the player set it as at the begging of the game? I didn't think the name was actually officially canon, except maybe for the first two games.GZGoten said:if she is in the 3DS version I hope her name is changed to Aryll and not Linkle which sounds totally stupid
Sorta why I have the bolded part in there....GZGoten said:as for the every character having their own game... Lana and Cia don't have a game so...Redryhno said:I do agree that it doesn't ruin the character, mostly because Link really doesn't have a huge amount of character to begin with outside of Twilight Princess, parts of LTTP, and a part of Skyward Sword.
However, it's been a big thing that the hero having descendents is not really important, as it's more the soul of the hero than the blood of the hero that determines if Courage hits them. But if she has roughly the same fighting style and design, exactly what's the point in a game solely designed around spectacle over story? Seems alot like just copy-pasting. Another thing would be that every timeline they've pulled from has had an actual game with the character in it so far. With obviously the exception being the "story" of the base game.
80%?BiH-Kira said:But it is pandering. The whole freaking game is pandering and fanservice (mostly tasteful if you ask me). Did you even play the game?Leonardo Huizar said:$5 says that certain group of critics are going to call this 'pandering' and 'Ms. Man-ing'
And I'm one of the people who have a problem with this. 80% of the freaking roaster are female character. Is it really necessary to fuck up an existing character and genderswap him? No amount of "it's not Link, it's his sister" won't make this any better since it's obviously Link genderswapped.
Actually, HW could easily take place sometime after Twilight Princess. Looking at the games featured, it's Skyward Sword, Ocarina of Time, and Twilight Princes, which all happen on the same timeline, or time trident as you put it. Had Wind Waker or Link to the Past been featured, then it be pretty hard to justify. Which I guess just happened since Tetra and the King are in it now.Hairless Mammoth said:I can see this happening since HW isn't really canon AFAIK. (You can bet though, someone figured out a few good spots in the timelinetrident to fit it.)
May I ask how you define "pandering," BiH-Kira? I ask because a lot of people seem to think it means "giving something to people who aren't me," and I think given that climate, it's best to be sure what exactly people are being accused of.BiH-Kira said:But it is pandering.
At least they're more appropriate for 3DS as "play a round" games. If it makes you feel better, Zelda and Mario games help justify a 3DS purchase. I gladly beat Mario 3D and New Mario 2 in a month each and am about to beat Majora's Mask 3D a third time.altnameJag said:(Why are warriors games system sellers for me? It makes no sense.)
Probably worth mentioning here that Wind Waker was featured in the leaked 3DS trailer...Hero of Lime said:Actually, HW could easily take place sometime after Twilight Princess. Looking at the games featured, it's Skyward Sword, Ocarina of Time, and Twilight Princes, which all happen on the same timeline, or time trident as you put it. Had Wind Waker or Link to the Past been featured, then it be pretty hard to justify. Which I guess just happened since Tetra and the King are in it now.Hairless Mammoth said:I can see this happening since HW isn't really canon AFAIK. (You can bet though, someone figured out a few good spots in the timelinetrident to fit it.)
Then again, this is a spin off that just throws all sense of continuity out the window. Trying to find a place to put it is beyond silly.
Because what exactly does it do other than slap a pair of boobs on a character that is silent with minimal personality? It's like trying to say that being able to choose your gender or race in a game like Fallout or Knights of the Old Republic makes it more diverse when your character is effectively a blank slate whose personality, race, and gender is really just window dressing. That's not diversity, it's just pandering to people who write odd genderswap fanfiction.May I ask how you define "pandering," BiH-Kira? I ask because a lot of people seem to think it means "giving something to people who aren't me," and I think given that climate, it's best to be sure what exactly people are being accused of.
Okay. So, if gender doesn't matter, why not slap a pair of boobs on more characters who're effectively blank slates whose personality, race, and gender are really just window dressing?Aiddon said:Because what exactly does it do other than slap a pair of boobs on a character that is silent with minimal personality? It's like trying to say that being able to choose your gender or race in a game like Fallout or Knights of the Old Republic makes it more diverse when your character is effectively a blank slate whose personality, race, and gender is really just window dressing. That's not diversity, it's just pandering to people who write odd genderswap fanfiction.