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lemiel14n3

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minakorocket said:
I think that to answer your question as to why girls aren't into games has to do a lot to do with two things.
1) they were never introduced to it properly
2) they don't know any friends (female) that are into it

As to how to introduce games to girls? I don't think throwing them right into your Halo game is the way to go. I started introducing games like Viva Pinata and Harvest Moon to a couple of my female friends who were typically turned off by my videogame conversations.

Yeah, I can see that. thinking of people who I've put an effort into introducing video games to, It's really been almost exclusively men, although I did get my sister playing Zelda. This is not because I don't think girls should be playing video game (quite the opposite in fact) but because when I think of people who could get into gaming I almost always think of men. another example of preconceived notions getting in the way of change.

AstylahAthrys said:
We do like games, actually. Whenever I get a girl to play a game, even one like Halo, they have a blast. Many are just turned off by them because guys can be overzealous about them.

Yeah, we can be. There's no denying that one of the biggest hurdles in getting girls into gaming is male gamers. we don't exactly have the best reputation for reasonable behavior. and we certainly not famous for our social skills. Look at most forums or play xbox live for a little while, the instant a member of the fairer sex reveals her gender she's mobbed by everyone on the site either telling her that girls aren't fit to play games or invitations to cyber.

Suki the Cat said:
Plenty of girls play games, but the girls that play games are the shy and quiet type so you won't find them in the club when your not looking for shy and quiet girls that are not super-attractive, and admit it: you never look for those, do you? You never look in the corner of the room! Look there next time and you'll find one (unless it's the wrong kind of party, I don't know what places you go to...)

I usually make a point of talking to the shy, cute ones. forget the 10's on the dance floor, the one you want is the 5-8 on the wall. They've always been around hotter friends, so they never realized that they're also attractive. And they're much more likely to be into the same things you are. Although an inherit problem meeting shy cuties is exactly that, they're shy, less likely to show up at parties.

HigherTomorrow said:
It's like a secret hobby for girls. They're not too interested in sharing that they play video games because they will be thought of as weird by fellow girls and (most likely) extremely hot by fellow guys.

It all boils down to the fact that video gaming in general is still seen as a nerdy, geeky, and socially awkward hobby. It's not that girls are turned off by video gaming, it's that they (and other guys who "hide" their gameplaying hobbies; C'mon, I don't believe for a second you haven't at least played a game of Madden, so stop telling me you don't play video games!) are turned off by the social aspect, or, the way their hobby is socially handled.

Games are a much bigger aspect of our culture than we give them credit for. If my college professor can give a long discussion on the merits of angry birds then games aren't quite the social cesspool that they used to be. But once again one of the biggest problems are gamers themselves. if we want more female gamers, we need to work on the culture of gaming.

Jennacide said:
Why? Here's one reason: threads like this. It's the main reason why a lot of female gamers won't speak up. Or our treatment on services like XBL. (I refuse to ever use it again)

We won't ever outnumber the more vocal male playerbase, but it's a load to think there aren't any female gamers that aren't horrible stereotypes. (Frag Dolls I'm looking at you idiots) And gross assumptions are just that. I have no issue with FPSs, I play TF2 on a daily basis, though less now with the over abundance of trading and hat crap.

No one will ever say that male gamers are non-vocal, especially within our own communities. But don't think that girls are the only ones mistreated on XBL, live is a notorious hive of scum and villainy. Famous for it's population of 14 year old boys eager to try out their newly learned swear words and drunken idiots, eager to assert their dominance behind the shield of anonymity. A place where no one is safe from their screechy dialogue and tea bagging game play.
Like I said before, we need to fix ourselves as gamers, before we complain about our negative reputation, and the lack of a diverse gamer base.


I for one would love to see more girls gaming. video games are a huge part of my life, and my culture. The people I talk to discuss the common aspects of our lives, from movies to books, politics and television, and yes gaming. and it's always awkward to talk to a girl and have no common ground. I would love being able to talk to a girl about the philosophical nuances of bioshock, the advantages of playing a spy over a pyro, or how excited we are for portal 2 to come out.

Gaming is something I enjoy, and if I can get others to enjoy it too that's all the better.
 

amyous

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Hi there. I'm a girl :) I have a balanced life, I'm not a tomboy, and I game. I grew up on rpg's and platformers, wipe the floor with male friends' butts in rts, and have been playing fps for the last two years... A lot.

For whoever said fps is scary, I agree. Biosbock was my first and it terrified me. But terrified in an enjoyable way and... You get used to it.

Most girls I know game. Including the most feminine girls I know, and the most drop-dead gorgeous ones too. And they do like killing things. So many times I have heard... When do we get to start shooting things?

I think social conditioning has a lot to do with it. My brother gamed and my parents found it a way to make me sit down and shut up.

I do know one girl who definitely does not game though. She was abused as a child by her guardian - he mimicked the violence in games. She also had an abusive boyfriend... Gamer. Stories like that make gaming unappealing. But they're unfortunately perceived as more common than they really are.
 

Crashage

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I'm female and video games take up all the free time I have between studying and being forced into socialising outside of xbl. The only real genres I dislike are RPGs and RTS. I spent a lot of today on Black Ops after work. There are lots of girls I know who are better at - and more into - games than I am, a couple of them pretty much destroy anyone we play against on Gears or L4D. While lots of girls I know aren't into games at all, there are lots of boys I know who aren't either. I think it's a lot more even these days than you'd think.

Admittedly there do seem to be some difference when I play online with my friends. If I play with other girls, we stick together, talk tactics, and try to have each others backs as much as we can. If I play with boys, they make me hold back here or camp here or you just stand there and defend that flag whilst the men go and do the real work eh? It's as if being a girl means you can't possibly know how to play
 

Continuity

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amyous said:
Most girls I know game. Including the most feminine girls I know, and the most drop-dead gorgeous ones too.
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Why do I never meet these girls! >.<

;)
 

blackflare

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This has actualy become more common. i turned my girlfriend into a gamer it started with her and pokemon platinum but i slowly started changing the games i got her into the wii recently there its a start. you never know some day it could be black ops but that could take a while teaching her how to play has been as much fun for her more so i fear the day when she tries to get me into one of her hobbies. I honestly think it brought us closer together.
 

Jenova65

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I am female, I game, so does my daughter and my eldest son is also a gamer. My younger son doesn't but he is only 21 months there is time, my husband doesn't really either. I have, maybe around 200 games across the different formats and do not visit the escapist to justify or prove my existence..... Nor do any of the other female gamers who visit here, so can we talk about games now, please? :)
 

Twilight_guy

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Probably the same reason that its harder to find girls in Tabletop RPGs then dudes. Games were initially restricted to a fairly niche audience and they generally focused on things that were normally more "boyish" then "girlish." There is a whole paper that can be written on gender definition in society here but in short games are still straddled with a stigma that, among other things, defines it more as a boy thing then a girl thing. In reality, the last survey I checked said there are more female games then male gamers (the casual market is predominately females if I'm not utterly mistaken) but its still subconsciously branded with the idea of a "this is for dudes."
 

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ApeShapeDeity said:
SinisterGehe said:
Girls do game shut up about this.
I was at Wow: Cataclysm night release at my local gamestop there were about 300+ people there and every third was a woman. My wow guilds active mebers ~28 people of them 6 are confirmed girls, in the same gaming community that I am part of there are in total of 10 girls of total of ~45 active members.
Ok, so you're saying the MAJORITY are NOT female? So, you're actually saying the same thing as I did, but I should shut up about it?

Uhh.
Eh???
Shut up was mainly refering to the common topic of girls in gaming. Girls do play games!!!
I was merely pointing out that they exist, I was never referring them to be majority? Or what are you on about here??? I am just sick of hearing this topic pushed around from left and right...

Alright. I think we got to a bad start here, let me start again...

OK why I think is the reason why girls don't own the title of majority in gaming...
I have witnessed lot of this behavior that I am going to describe here.
Every time a girls passes in to gaming lobby and reveals that she is a girl, she gets bombarded by the majority of males... That are apparently testosterone buffing morons that do sexist verbal assaults towards the minority of female players. Telling them that they suck because they are female (which isn't true since there are professional womens gaming teams), when they lose they make up excuses of taking it easy since they are girls. Bombarding them with sexual innuendos or other sexual harassment with a though of being some type of alpha males.

In other words, why I think we lack women in our gaming communities.
First: Because male players (the dominant force) are not welcoming them!!! Every time you insult a female player you are making this situation worse and making yourself an ass! Second: The market ins't inviting them to the mainstream gaming, women are described as over sexual symbols who wear armor thats armor value goes up when it covers less of their bodies, in games they are a most of time either described as dominant sex goddesses or weak and pafetic (Which is not true!!!). If we want more women to the mainstream gaming, we must welcome them as equals, not raise them to the top ladder for their sex or push them out for it!

I am really sick of the majority of gaming world, the primitive behavior of trying to achieve constant sexual pleasure or dominance is sickening me. Males are acting like primitive beats, I am embarrassed for my gender, you act like you wouldn't have any impulse control, it is sad! I believe human should be able to control hes/hers body no matter what is the situation , there are situations where it is not possible admitted, being in pain, being threatened or afraid these are worthy reason in which you can be excused for losing control. But internet anonymity is a situation in which it is not acceptable. Even tho you got statistical change of succeeding and get your surrounding to agree with you, it is not acceptable!!!

If you go and say: "Well I don't do it, I respect girls in any situation", well go an show it! NExt time you see girl getting harassed for her sex, help her defend her, if she says "I don't want you to help me" respect her wishes. Speak positively about gender diversity in games and gaming community! Make smart consumer decisions on your games! "Do I want to buy the game which I know is mediocre, but got a picture of a over-sexualized character on the cover". GO and talk to others and to game developers (if you can) about not over-sexualizing the games to appeal the primitive gamer so they could get a quick buck with it.

I am sorry if I have offended anyone here, but you shouldn't get offended by this unless you know you know that you do not respect girls in gaming, or even worse in general.
"You got negative view on people..." Yes I know, you do not need to point that out. Saddening part is that they people always fill my view of them.
"You are not respecting girls here at all by separating them..." I am a male you are a female, we are equal, we aren't equal, you aren't better, I am not worse, we are the same yet we are the different, you are 1/1 I am 3/3 we are both equal but we are not the same. Get my point?
"You gay or something??? lol!!!" No, I am asex, and I see nothing wrong with gay people, and you shouldn't discriminate them in/from our gaming community let alone discriminate anyone to begin with.

Respect everyone who is part of your community, no matter what they look like, what they are or what they do!
This world has enough problems to begin with lets not start more, at least not until we have solved the current ones.
You are not important , you are one, I am one, she is one, he is one, we are important !!!

Sorry of the rant, I just wanted to get it all out.
 

badgersprite

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Speaking as a girl, most girls just aren't socialized into playing video games. They're never introduced to games. Think about it; how often do you see parents buying game consoles for little girls? People don't expect girls to be into games, so they never give them a chance to play games and see if they like them growing up. I myself probably never would have been given a console if it weren't for the fact that my male cousin had one and my parents realized I liked playing it when we were visiting them.

It's seen as something inherently male and meant for boys, so that cycle perpetuates itself starting with parents.
 

ApeShapeDeity

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SinisterGehe said:
ApeShapeDeity said:
SinisterGehe said:
Girls do game shut up about this.
I was at Wow: Cataclysm night release at my local gamestop there were about 300+ people there and every third was a woman. My wow guilds active mebers ~28 people of them 6 are confirmed girls, in the same gaming community that I am part of there are in total of 10 girls of total of ~45 active members.
Ok, so you're saying the MAJORITY are NOT female? So, you're actually saying the same thing as I did, but I should shut up about it?

Uhh.
Eh???
Shut up was mainly refering to the common topic of girls in gaming. Girls do play games!!!
I was merely pointing out that they exist, I was never referring them to be majority? Or what are you on about here??? I am just sick of hearing this topic pushed around from left and right...

Alright. I think we got to a bad start here, let me start again...

OK why I think is the reason why girls don't own the title of majority in gaming...
I have witnessed lot of this behavior that I am going to describe here.
Every time a girls passes in to gaming lobby and reveals that she is a girl, she gets bombarded by the majority of males... That are apparently testosterone buffing morons that do sexist verbal assaults towards the minority of female players. Telling them that they suck because they are female (which isn't true since there are professional womens gaming teams), when they lose they make up excuses of taking it easy since they are girls. Bombarding them with sexual innuendos or other sexual harassment with a though of being some type of alpha males.

In other words, why I think we lack women in our gaming communities.
First: Because male players (the dominant force) are not welcoming them!!! Every time you insult a female player you are making this situation worse and making yourself an ass! Second: The market ins't inviting them to the mainstream gaming, women are described as over sexual symbols who wear armor thats armor value goes up when it covers less of their bodies, in games they are a most of time either described as dominant sex goddesses or weak and pafetic (Which is not true!!!). If we want more women to the mainstream gaming, we must welcome them as equals, not raise them to the top ladder for their sex or push them out for it!

I am really sick of the majority of gaming world, the primitive behavior of trying to achieve constant sexual pleasure or dominance is sickening me. Males are acting like primitive beats, I am embarrassed for my gender, you act like you wouldn't have any impulse control, it is sad! I believe human should be able to control hes/hers body no matter what is the situation , there are situations where it is not possible admitted, being in pain, being threatened or afraid these are worthy reason in which you can be excused for losing control. But internet anonymity is a situation in which it is not acceptable. Even tho you got statistical change of succeeding and get your surrounding to agree with you, it is not acceptable!!!

If you go and say: "Well I don't do it, I respect girls in any situation", well go an show it! NExt time you see girl getting harassed for her sex, help her defend her, if she says "I don't want you to help me" respect her wishes. Speak positively about gender diversity in games and gaming community! Make smart consumer decisions on your games! "Do I want to buy the game which I know is mediocre, but got a picture of a over-sexualized character on the cover". GO and talk to others and to game developers (if you can) about not over-sexualizing the games to appeal the primitive gamer so they could get a quick buck with it.

I am sorry if I have offended anyone here, but you shouldn't get offended by this unless you know you know that you do not respect girls in gaming, or even worse in general.
"You got negative view on people..." Yes I know, you do not need to point that out. Saddening part is that they people always fill my view of them.
"You are not respecting girls here at all by separating them..." I am a male you are a female, we are equal, we aren't equal, you aren't better, I am not worse, we are the same yet we are the different, you are 1/1 I am 3/3 we are both equal but we are not the same. Get my point?
"You gay or something??? lol!!!" No, I am asex, and I see nothing wrong with gay people, and you shouldn't discriminate them in/from our gaming community let alone discriminate anyone to begin with.

Respect everyone who is part of your community, no matter what they look like, what they are or what they do!
This world has enough problems to begin with lets not start more, at least not until we have solved the current ones.
You are not important , you are one, I am one, she is one, he is one, we are important !!!

Sorry of the rant, I just wanted to get it all out.
Yeah, that's cool, mate. As it happens we agree, in essence.

A large part of my wanting to open this little chestnut up again was infact to help people see how thier real wrold choices and predelictions can be exclusive, and not in a good way.

It's high time the men of the world learn that wonderful word 'respect'. Respect for others, absolutely, but more so respect for themselves. A man who holds high, sincere respect for himself, will not debase himself to disrespect others. (Well, it goes for anyone really, but us men seem to be a little more gulity in this regard.)