Feminism: has it gone to far?
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I know. I'm usually standing up for rights of Women. I mean I hold up Wonder Woman as an example. She's still very womanly while still being just as strong, if not stronger then either Superman or Batman. Wonder Woman is just as strong as Superman, just as smart as Batman, but she only has one identity (except in the case of the Lynda Carter Tv Series). She doesn't become a Super hero because she wants revenge, or just because its the right thing to do. She does it partly out of love, and because she's an ambassador, truely believing in peace between everybody. Even with all that, she still finds time to indulge in spas and making her self look pretty.derelix said:
A few pages back somebody said that the Black Widows in Russia were a feminist terrorist group. That is complete bullshit. The Black Widows are an all female group but the are motivated by Islamism. The amount of ignorance in this thread is astounding.
Let's be frank here, I don't see what's so wrong about a little prejudice as long as it isn't hurting anyone. It's not that hard to disprove prejudice, and if you do break the stereotype, then it's all good... If you get my drift. Please ask for more elaboration if it doesn't make sense.
I think feminism is overdone. As well as anti-racism is overdone. Women have the same rights as a man, and they don't carry an almost exposed sack of pain on the outside. As for racism, everybody knows that there is nothing wrong with being of another color, so just grow up.. Nobody is lynching you, and the word "******" is never used against a coloured person. At least that's what it's like where i'm from, but i don't know about the yankees. I'm getting off topic aren't I?
Feminism is overdone. There are equal rights, so stfu. I often hear form my mother: "typical men, always lying and they're all lazy". WTF kind of bullshit is that? That is no better than "shut up woman, and make me a sandwich". So yeah, women you made your point, now get back in the kitchen.
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I think feminism is overdone. As well as anti-racism is overdone. Women have the same rights as a man, and they don't carry an almost exposed sack of pain on the outside. As for racism, everybody knows that there is nothing wrong with being of another color, so just grow up.. Nobody is lynching you, and the word "******" is never used against a coloured person. At least that's what it's like where i'm from, but i don't know about the yankees. I'm getting off topic aren't I?
Feminism is overdone. There are equal rights, so stfu. I often hear form my mother: "typical men, always lying and they're all lazy". WTF kind of bullshit is that? That is no better than "shut up woman, and make me a sandwich". So yeah, women you made your point, now get back in the kitchen.
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ok..it's time to stop this. Looking back on what I have posted makes me want to puch myself. I was half asleep and in a bad mood and really did not know what I was doing. I'am very sorry to all of you. I really hope that you don't all hate me.
Once again...sorry.
Once again...sorry.
Now we have our own rights, and have done for years, they should probably give up. They probably won't until women get equal pay or men stop repeating the same sexist jokes and thinking they're always hilarious.
Germaine Greer is a little bat shit crazy. I'm sure she wrote an article about how all dads have to fight the urge to rape and sexually abuse their daughters. That's just... strange.
Germaine Greer is a little bat shit crazy. I'm sure she wrote an article about how all dads have to fight the urge to rape and sexually abuse their daughters. That's just... strange.
Scarecrow 8 said:
I don't hate you good sir. Everyone makes terrible decisions when they is pissed and tired... but if you are going to hit yourself, please record it and post it in the thread plz =D (if you're allowed to do that ofc... don't want to make the moderators come down hard with the banhammer on anyone)
There are alternatives though. Why has no-one yet considered the fact of simple holding her wrists and telling her firmly but not shouting to calm down? That works. Only Men who are upset that they can't throw their weight around complain about this...BiscuitTrouser said:
lemme use my real life example. My kind of humor is friendly banter, il insult people often but in a joking way and everyone knows im just kidding, i never mean it. I have a friend called K who has known me 3 or 4 years, we arnt good friends but she knows how i am. She talks about ehr NEW NEW boyfriend and i jokingly remark about her promiscuity. I then recieve a sudden and violent kick to the balls, almost instantly and with a an obviously joking insult as the only provecation. She only does this once though and then backs off. She isnt being aggressive, what do i do? If this was a guy you could bet your ass id get right back at him, but a girl? With the hit and run strategy? I cant hit a girl who isnt fighting me. It was one hit. One i cant respond with because she stopped being aggressive. She just stands there as if to say "if you hit me, youll get fucking owned". I have to submit, i give her a bollocking but thats pretty much it.cyber_andyy said:
Yeah give her bollocking, and don't hang out with her? Funnily enough a well adjusted person wouldn't just launch into an assault if this happened to be a guy: they'd be pissed, give em a dressing down, and not talk to them for a few hours whilst they calmed down. At least in the situation you've described.BiscuitTrouser said:
You're just as much in the wrong if you punch a guy who did this to you after they have backed of.
Did i say i wanted to assault her?! Im just saying if it was a guy who kicked me pretty damn hard in the balls he would have got one back, maybe not as hard, i wouldnt wish that on anyone. I cant do much to a girl though, even fi she does inflict a tonne of pain on me and can get away with it. cus a girl kicking a guy in the balls is socially acceptable.cyber_andyy said:
I do agree to a certain extent.
Females expect equal pay to men and this is fair.
But they also expect to have paid maternity leave in Australia (now up to 6 weeks I believe).
And they also want equal opportunity and to eradicate discrimination.
However I think that having paid maternity leave reinforces discrimination. Employees have to weigh up whether or not to recruit a female, and assess the risk that she will fall pregnant during her employment and they need to pay out at least 6 weeks pay for someone who might just leave after having those 6 weeks of leave.
Equal pay is hard to acheive when you have women who then want an extra 6 weeks of pay for doing nothing.
I believe equal pay will never occur unless one of two things happen: men also obtain 6 weeks paid paternity leave (right now it's 2 weeks at my workplace), or women stop petitioning for 6 weeks paid maternity leave and just leave it as 6 weeks unpaid maternity leave.
There is no way that women can have their cake and eat it too - this is becoming just way too over the top.
Make a choice: work or have a family and stop being greedy.
Females expect equal pay to men and this is fair.
But they also expect to have paid maternity leave in Australia (now up to 6 weeks I believe).
And they also want equal opportunity and to eradicate discrimination.
However I think that having paid maternity leave reinforces discrimination. Employees have to weigh up whether or not to recruit a female, and assess the risk that she will fall pregnant during her employment and they need to pay out at least 6 weeks pay for someone who might just leave after having those 6 weeks of leave.
Equal pay is hard to acheive when you have women who then want an extra 6 weeks of pay for doing nothing.
I believe equal pay will never occur unless one of two things happen: men also obtain 6 weeks paid paternity leave (right now it's 2 weeks at my workplace), or women stop petitioning for 6 weeks paid maternity leave and just leave it as 6 weeks unpaid maternity leave.
There is no way that women can have their cake and eat it too - this is becoming just way too over the top.
Make a choice: work or have a family and stop being greedy.
I think we are nearly there with the equal pay, the "77 cents on the dollar" thing is a little...misleading. But the jokes are terrible. I never thought the problem could be as bad as some claim it is, but I now work in an office, and I've heard a few jokes that made me quite uncomfortable.EmileeElectro said:
The last bit by Greer, well that is...no I can't even think of anything other than disgust.
True. And people don't like their invisible perks to be taken away.Serenegoose said:
You must really love it, since you made several assumptions necessary to accuse me of making assumptions. But hey, why let a little thing like yourself assuming my stance stop you from accusing me of the same?derelix said:
Will there be a time when forum people will recognized a troll through his/her insistence? *pray*
To continue the discussion...
She defined her reversal of roles as "feeling like a man", even though nothing about her biology shifted in anyway whatsoever. That's ingrained stereotypes for ya.
I hope for the time when taking care of the house is just an act of respect towards the place which protects you, without any connotation of gender behind it.
Does he get any lip from his "promiscuous" behaviour?
To continue the discussion...
Funny how prejudices affect the perspectives of people's minds.Labyrinth said:
She defined her reversal of roles as "feeling like a man", even though nothing about her biology shifted in anyway whatsoever. That's ingrained stereotypes for ya.
I hope for the time when taking care of the house is just an act of respect towards the place which protects you, without any connotation of gender behind it.
That's at the heart of double standards. What about the guy who had sex with said girl in the bathroom?Ultratwinkie said:
Does he get any lip from his "promiscuous" behaviour?
That's a massive oxymoron right there.Kaptajn Emil Alfred Conan Swagga Benzon said:
