That makes sense. Also, it's probably for the best. I don't need to be spending $60 on a game I already played. I would do it, too. I would step over my own mother for that game.
FF13 Producer Explains Why FF7 Remake is Unlikely
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You know what that means? They're gonna make it. Not. Maybe. Unless they don't not want to maybe remake it possibly.anthony87 said:
I don't agree with their "towns are too hard" cop-out either, especially after making bigass cities in FFXII. That ran on the PS2 and I never had any problems while Vaan was jogging through Rabanastre. Nor did I have issues with Dragon Age's big city areas either. FFVII and games of its period in game-making kept things simple: you had the item shop, the weapon shop, and the armor shop. That's it. Oh yeah, and a few houses to rifle through for things. Other games have had these things since, with no real problems. Dragon Age's Denerim even fills theirs with side quests for you, which, as a strategy, is WIN.
Again, they're offering excuses instead of saying "look, we want to move on and make NEW games."
Personally, I think they dropped the ball with action games by not keeping Vagrant Story going (good system, great story, fun game).
I wouldn't mind remakes of earlier Final Fantasies. I shall have to wait and see what Final Fantasy 13 is like but if it's anything remotely similar to 12 then they would be better off just remaking the old classics.
Eh, same thing. My opinion, at least. It's my favorite game... at least it was until Mass Effect 2 challenged its throne. Point being... a remake would be full of win.John Funk said:They wouldn't be doing that, they'd just be remaking Final Fantasy VII.Thaius said:
Consider that FF7's "shortcomings" were technical, FF7's storyline was the best by miles, FF8's Zack moments and FF9's social dynamics do not match the depth and connection FF7 did. They were all quality games, but FF7 was not just a great game, it was the best it could be given the technical constraints of the time. 8's greatness was supresses by the.. I dont wanna say convolution of its story, but the rapidness of how it went from terrorist groups to time travelling world enders left alot to be desired, and IX's late intro of some chars meant you could have a familiar strong party of a new weak on, as opposed to say Sid or Vincent who were strong when they joined no matter. VII's pacing and scale were perfect and to see it as it should be would make it not a classic, but a thing of beauty.Slycne said:
Not sure I buy this. As much as I hated Lost Odyssey and regretted buying it (and as horrendous as the CHARACTER designs were) the environments were absolutely fucking gorgeous. And that was on the 360.
And once again I die a little inside. Not because FF7 isn't getting a remake, but because FF6 doesn't get a mention at all. Best cast, best plot, best villain, and some top-notch graphics given a SNES. You keep gushing over Aeris dying? I can name three *better* scenes in FF6 off the top of my head - The Opera Event, Celes and Cid on the Island (if you fail), Locke bringing Phoenix to his beloved.
And as much as playing with Materia in FF7 was fun, I'd still rather play FF9 over it.
And as much as playing with Materia in FF7 was fun, I'd still rather play FF9 over it.
We will never hear the end of the requesting that 7 be made. All that will be heard now is Why is taking so long and then whenever it does get done someone somewhere is going to complain about how it sucked and that it shouldn't have happened.
They could always...make it on the PC?
Just a thought, but our architecture isn't labyrinthine and the Vista minotaur has been cut down now.
Just a thought, but our architecture isn't labyrinthine and the Vista minotaur has been cut down now.
It's not that hard to follow; It's the workload.Nazrel said:
I'm simplifying here, but bear with me...
An old sprite game, like say... Mario, involved sprites of 8 by 16 pixels, with maybe 3 frames of animation at most.
And using all of about 4 colours at that.
So... you needed to create images for a sprite totaling something like 384 pixels...
The kind of character meshes you'd see on a PS3 or similar, are into the region of 20,000-30,000 polygons, and on top of that, often have 4 or more texture maps that are 1024 by 1024 or larger, and often thousands of frames of animation. (though the methods have changed somewhat, making that relatively less work than a frame of sprite animation.)
If you were to pay as much attention to the little details on a modern character model as was given to old sprites, you'd be looking at paying attention to say...
40,000 points of animation data, 30,000 of character mesh, and 4,000,000 of textures.
That's something like 4 million to 400, or 10,000 times the work.
The reality, fortunately, isn't that bad, but the time required for a single item is still constantly increasing.
To remake FF7 with PS3 level graphics probably would require, at a rough estimate, 10-20 times as much work as creating the original did, simply because of the massive increase in graphical detail.
