Fifty Shades of Grey Launch Trailer Now Most Watched in History

[StarStruckStrumpets]

I find it interesting that the "social justice for all!" crowd are backing a very particular notion of theirs.

"You can have all the equality you want, so long as it doesn't offend me."

I haven't read the books, but clearly the sales figures determine that there is an audience for this kind of relationship to be explored or even enjoyed in a form of media. Why then, is it that everyone is talking about how this will "normalise" abusive relationships and ruin the position of women in our culture?

Fucking hell guys, you can't have it both ways. Some women get off on this shit. Leave them be, let them have their turn-ons. How is embracing a turn-on oppressive? You must all be sex-negative feminists.

 

[Cowabungaa]

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I suppose you make a point. Yes, 50 Shades fills a need. However, I'd argue that this need itself is, in a way, a bad thing. It shows that in our society something is very wrong in how we go about sex and sexual relationships. 50 Shades, in that regard, is just another symptom. Women want to have sex without shame, that's the real fantasy behind books like 50 Shades. And of course, they deserve that. The fact that a fantasy that glorifies such bad behavior is needed to fulfill that desire to have sex without shame is, in a way, quite sad. It shows that despite a century of active feminism we still have a lot of work to do.

I do agree that Christian Grey is indeed the worst bit of the book, but not just for his idealized looks and wealth as such but for his creepy, abusive behavior. At one point he apparently even rapes the main character (by apparently forcing sex while she's under influence) and the fact that the book doesn't present this as a bad thing, doesn't show his behavior for what it is is what makes the book a bad thing.

Filling a need as such is not a bad thing, but filling this need by presenting abusive behavior, both sexually and romantically, as a fetish is not the way to go about it and not something I can get behind from a moral point of view. Grey is a terrible, terrible person and should be outed as such.

And yes, a proper, widespread study on our sexual relationships is something we could really use.

How is embracing a turn-on oppressive?

Simply put, 50 Shades' Christian Grey is another symptom of rape culture. That's where the backlash against this comes from.

 

[Jadak]

most watched with 100 million views? are you joking? Gangnam style [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0] has 2,055,502,333 views.

Maybe you missed the part that specified "launch videos". As in, specifically trailers for movies and stuff.

Still no idea if it's accurate or not, but they did at least specify a category.

erm, look at the title of the article?

Yes? And both the title of the thread and the article specify what it's actually talking about.

 

[grey_space]

Really? Out of pure spite now I won't watch it.

 

[Lieju]

I find it interesting that the "social justice for all!" crowd are backing a very particular notion of theirs.

"You can have all the equality you want, so long as it doesn't offend me."

I haven't read the books, but clearly the sales figures determine that there is an audience for this kind of relationship to be explored or even enjoyed in a form of media. Why then, is it that everyone is talking about how this will "normalise" abusive relationships and ruin the position of women in our culture?

Fucking hell guys, you can't have it both ways. Some women get off on this shit. Leave them be, let them have their turn-ons. How is embracing a turn-on oppressive? You must all be sex-negative feminists.

And this is a very common defense from 50 Shades fans. (Although in this case you just don't like the arguments against it, I guess?)

Rape porn is one thing.
If you get off on it, it's your business, fantasies are fantasies.

But if you can't tell the difference, it's kinda worrying.
If you glorify an abusive relationship, you make it harder for people to recognize abuse or rape (or make abused people less likely to be taken seriously), and the way this book misunderstands BDSM, it spreads misinformation abusers benefit from.

I'm not saying it should be banned, I'm saying the book is shit, and I'm sad it got as popular as it did. (Which was a fluke and a result of a snowball-effect, since it's not like this is even the first of its kind.)

Also, 'sex-negative'...

Do you have any idea how sex-negative 50 shades actually is? It depicts BDSM as something broken people do, who have been abused in the past, and justify their abuse with their past. (Because the author considers BDSM a naughty thing no one should actually WANT to go into by their own will.)

It's horribly misogynistic, in the way the main character treats other women, constantly putting them down in her mind, and suspecting they just want to steal her man, because fucking Gray is the dream of all women everywhere.

And it had the annoying 'women must be pure' shit I mentioned before.

 

[Montezuma's Lawyer]

Is it bad that I desperately want to find a group of men large enough to take up my entire local theatre, so that not a single woman can get in to see this, on any screen, on release night?

 

[Burnouts3s3]

This is a Rifftrax waiting to happen.

And I shall sit in my local theater on opening night, enjoying every corny moment of this movie.