File-Sharing Mom Loses Again

[anyGould]

They offered her a buy out of $25,000. Everything gone. NO more issues. But no, she refused

But only if she allowed the decision to be vacated - which would remove the precedent. And that's what they're freaked out about.

Remember - the RIAA had *won*. The problem was that the verdict would only be for $54K. The $25K offer was to remove that precedent, and when she didn't take it (smart lady!), they appealed to try and get a bigger number.

*That's* what the fight is about. The RIAA only wants a win in the courtroom that comes with crazy amounts of dollars. They don't want the $54K verdict on the record, because then that's what everyone else gets to point to. They want that big $1.5M number to throw around. At this point, they'd rather lose than win for small dollars.

 

[Optimystic]

They offered her a buy out of $25,000. Everything gone. NO more issues. But no, she refused

I wouldn't have either. Piracy or not, $1000+ per song is bullshit, never mind what they're trying to stick her for now.

 

[Romidude]

Where is V when you need him to stop this?

Just sayin', it's the beginning of the end.

 

[Alar]

You know, I want to feel bad for her. But I don't.

At least this woman has courage to face the company, not many people would have taken so much after a while ...

i surely hope they will dismiss the case because in our Age of Communication etc, there is no such place for this kind of trial, it's just absurd.

I'd have to agree here. A single person standing up for something like this is insane. I don't think I would have the balls to do something like this.

Why can't they just fine her the price of the songs multiplied by the people she shared the songs with and add on legal costs? That, at the very damn least, would be realistic.

 

[TomLikesGuitar]

The $25,000 would have covered it all if it was a settlement.

I don't understand what you're trying to say, but after the first hearing, the lawyer still needs to get paid, and the $25,000 would not have covered her lawyer as it was a settlement outside of court.

 

[UnravThreads]

It's really not. You remember the whole hero story surrounding Robin Hood? He stole from the rich (assholes). I'm not saying I support her, I'm saying if you try to sue for millions of times the cost of a stolen product, you deserve to be stolen from.

What would be reasonable here would be "pay the legal fees and pay £10 per song".

Whether he was morally right or wrong is irrelevant - At the end of the day, Robin Hood took what wasn't his (i.e. stealing).

I don't agree with the degree of the punishment, I never have, but she got caught doing something she shouldn't have and should be punished for doing so. Yes, the RIAA are seemingly a bunch of arses, but it doesn't make her any less "wrong" to infringe copyright (or whatever it's being called now).

 

[Lightslei]

Just throwing this out here because this was from another article on the same subject. The quote is from her:

Thomas-Rasset has maintained her innocence from the start, saying she never used Kazaa. She said Thursday that the law allowing for such disproportionate damages needs to be changed, and she's willing to keep fighting.

"It's not a fair law," she said. "In my eyes, it's legalized extortion."

 

[USSR]

Where is V when you need him to stop this?

We just missed him.

It's November 6th T.T

 

[Orcus The Ultimate]

You know, I want to feel bad for her. But I don't.

At least this woman has courage to face the company, not many people would have taken so much after a while ...

i surely hope they will dismiss the case because in our Age of Communication etc, there is no such place for this kind of trial, it's just absurd.

I'd have to agree here. A single person standing up for something like this is insane. I don't think I would have the balls to do something like this.

Why can't they just fine her the price of the songs multiplied by the people she shared the songs with and add on legal costs? That, at the very damn least, would be realistic.

Because EVIL has no boundaries.

 

[neolithic]

To the person who said that putting your Cd's onto your iPOD isn't Illegal. While I don't believe they have a court case to set precedent yet, as of 2006, the RIAA has taken the stance and has argued it in court cases still in litigation, that it is an infringing use to do just that.

 

[Zer_]

To the person who said that putting your Cd's onto your iPOD isn't Illegal. While I don't believe they have a court case to set precedent yet, as of 2006, the RIAA has taken the stance and has argued it in court cases still in litigation, that it is an infringing use to do just that.

It isn't Illegal. In Canada we are allowed to make copies of our software and music for personal use, as a protected right.

 

[Cryo84R]

I wish all pirates were punished like this.

 

[Paksenarrion]

Let me clarify my stance.

RIAA = Assholes
Pirates = Assholes

As such, I can't bring myself to feel bad for her. You know what would have required real courage and discipline? Not buying music from assholes if you don't like the way they operate, and not stealing it either. Just find something else to do.

Indeed. It's like a perpetual pissing machine in an ocean of piss.

 

[archvile93]

How many appeals does she get?

 

[RicoADF]

I respectfully disagree with the headline. Every time this lady "loses," she wins. She's obviously trying to make the RIAA look like soulless corporate golems. Which, while not hard to do, is endlessly amusing. It'll be interesting to see which party runs out of conviction first.

I think she's hoping they will just give up and leave her alone, eventually they will have to figure she's not going to cough up anything.

 

[Asturiel]

I wish all pirates were punished like this.

You want all pirates to pay disproportionate fees or spend the rest of their life in jail? Quite the happy chap ain't ya?

OT: It's good to see people fighting unjust laws such as this, the RIAA should not be able to fine anybody with numbers like that. I salute her for not accepting that 25 grand settlement, because if she took it then it would be saying that this is OK, that cases like this are OK. I hope she walks out of that courtroom without having to pay a dime to anybody but her lawyer (if she has to do even that).

 

[TriggerUnhappy]

As much as this sucks for her, I can't imagine being a part of the trial, and knowing how ridiculous it is to be charged that much for a few songs.
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[Kevonovitch]

i've said it before, and i'll say it again, "if your dumb enough to get caught, your dumb enough to pay the fine."

i'll keep saying that no matter how many times i get caught for various shit

but, commendable job flipping off the RIAA

 

[Cryo84R]

I wish all pirates were punished like this.

You want all pirates to pay disproportionate fees or spend the rest of their life in jail? Quite the happy chap ain't ya?

Yes.