Firm Asks Microsoft to Stop Dragging Xbox Down
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Actually, the design of the new system is much better with less heat now that the CPU and GPU are one die. I work at a game store and we haven't been getting any RRODs lately (except for older units). Obviously this is anecdotal evidence but our other game stores are seeing the same things. RROD has become less and less of a problem after every revision of the console.Mornelithe said:
It doesn't matter! A hardware error is a hardware error. And we haven't been seeing any of them from the new slims (or the motherboard revision before that). You claimed MS never fixes anything which is pure unadulterated FUD. Calling 48 million people retards because they bought a console? LOL Did MS piss in your cheerios?Mornelithe said:
Edit: Isn't the point of marketing to "sucker" in consumers though? But seriously, with any console, it is all about the games, games, games! If there wasn't games that people wanted to play, no amount of marketing could change that. So to act like everyone bought a 360 simply because of marketing is clearly grasping at straws.
Windows and enterprise tools have a much higher profit margin than entertainment and devices. The chaos of splitting the companies would present a huge market manipulation opportunity for Goldman Sachs. Sorry, I mean a better free market environment for honest investors who are creating stability in the economy. I bet that XBox would run out of money and fold as soon as they hit a problem, such as Kinect/XBOX 720 failing or Microsoft investors rushing to sell their investments after the split.
And if the invisible hand says that most of the money must go to Goldman then that just means that they are the invisible hand's infallible representatives on Earth.smut said:
Why is it every time I see you in a thread about Microsoft you're insulting a remarkably high number of people...Mornelithe said:
First you insult poor people for being 'lazy', now you insult customers for being stupid...
You realise that Microsoft handled the hardware failure incredibly well.
3 year warranty on all new consoles, most consoles kicked it in that time, they were then replaced by the newer models which have a much much lower hardware failure rate.
And most people buy a console for the exclusives now. So you called 48 million people retards for having an opinion...
wanna add to this that my Xbox was bought in the 1st month of release and It only RROD about 6 -8 months after the warranty expired. I checked the Microsoft homesite and they said that any console that suffered its 1st RROD after the warranty would still be eligible for a free repair.GamesB2 said:
So Despite my console running perfectly until the 4th year or whatever they still fixed it with no hassel, no "but this but that" and it was taken, repaired and back on my TV letting me chainsaw locusts within 4 days of it breaking.
As a man who once hated Microsoft for the allegedly built in bugs of its OS's I do actually respect their Xbox divisions for how much they care about their customers.
So no 48 million people weren't retarded, it was a calcualted risk.
Buy console, if it breaks Microsoft will fix it for free and this was when the 1st era of 360s was just out. Retarded is paying £400 for a glorified blu ray player then sitting telling Xbox 360 owners from your ivory tower than a marginally better graphics quality justied the extra £150 - £200 sales sticker.
As much as I like Microsoft[footnote]/sarcasm[/footnote] I don't want to see this split. More money for Microsoft, more money they could be, in theory, spending to make Windows 8 amazing.
Also Goldman Sachs is run bythe devil very, very questionable individuals so I can't in clear conscious approve their advice.
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hehe, financial advice from Goldman Sachs, how droll.
Also good to see this thread didn't make it past the first page before some foolish troll came in and called everyone who bought a 360 a retard. Nice to know we Escapists are truly a mature group.
Also good to see this thread didn't make it past the first page before some foolish troll came in and called everyone who bought a 360 a retard. Nice to know we Escapists are truly a mature group.
If xbox was hived off it would get bought by somebody, perhaps EA/Actvision but more likely an Indian or Chinese company on a shopping trip.
No they didn't. RROD was a think of the past before the 360 S model came out (which by work around I assume you're talking about how the new models don't have red LEDs for the ring of light). It was a thing of the past sometime after the Jasper chipset was released and RROD didn't happen at a huge rate anymore.Tankichi said:
You can't justify it now. I mean, damn, are people going to still be cursing Bill Gates for stuff Microsoft did after he's dead? "Damn you Bill Gates, the Xbox 15 is a piece of shit! Why didn't you make this thing better? ANSWER ME YOU CORPSE!"Rathands said:
Yeah, because Microsoft totally didn't give everyone a 3 year warranty on the 360 for /free/ and a month free xbox live if it broke, despite it only taking a week to get me a new one. That's right, a new console that was actually an updated version.Mornelithe said:
But of course, no, forget that. Forget that the red ring hasn't been talked about lately because the consoles haven't been bricking so much. Microsoft doesn't fix problems. No siree.
Let me guess, apple or linux fanboy?
Imagine if Valve made a console...Imagine...toastmaster2k8 said:
Goldman Sachs doing something that doesn't involve stealing money? And it's a good idea? Whaaaa? Is it backwards day on Planet Glorbna?
OT: I could go for this. Plus with Xbox not being associated with Microsoft, more people could be brought into it because a lot of gamers don't like Xbox because they are with Microsoft. My firend is one of them. He hates anything dealing with MS.
Somebody clearly isn't familiar with Microsoft's long-term plans. The Xbox isn't just a gaming device to them. It's part of their long-term vision for some kind of integrated entertainment and computing hub. Meanwhile, the Xbox benefits a lot from Microsoft's vast technical infrastructure.
Eh, I may agree with this, but mainly because of Kinect.
It may not seem like it, but it's a huge gamble, if it fails it could be devastating, and given its launch library, it'll most likely fail among the Xbox's current "hardcore" audiences, if the devs can't pull up sone decent games for the damn thing, and if it fails to grab a portion of the Wii's audience, it'll just plain fail.
I haven't seen the general impression for Sony's Move, but I'm assuming the same rules apply.
It may not seem like it, but it's a huge gamble, if it fails it could be devastating, and given its launch library, it'll most likely fail among the Xbox's current "hardcore" audiences, if the devs can't pull up sone decent games for the damn thing, and if it fails to grab a portion of the Wii's audience, it'll just plain fail.
I haven't seen the general impression for Sony's Move, but I'm assuming the same rules apply.
Panzer Dragoon, Steel Battalion, and a Rez sequel are all coming to Kinect. I hope that there are more such in the pipe (an RTS would be interesting) but that's a promising start.RatRace123 said:
-- Steve
They probably just want to snap the Xbox brand up and Microsoft is too much for them to take along with it and still maintain their cushy bailout bonuses. I'm certain they have an ulterior motive. At any rate, seeing as they engineered our current economic crisis (it seems intentionally from their internal documents) I'm not sure they're the most scrupulous individuals to be taking advice from. For that matter, MS has spent a lot of resources on development and advertising. Why in the world would they cut the brand off when it's turning a profit?