First Guns.

[PeterMerkin69]

You guys do realize that every time you quote Johnny Novgorod you're validating his, uhm, participation in this thread, right? He only has as much power over you as you lend him, so maybe stop doing that?

My first gun was an H&R .22 revolver. I'm not sure which model, I can't seem to find one exactly like it online. It looked like a 929 but it didn't have a swing-out cylinder; you pulled the retention pin and it slipped out the side. Otherwise, it looked like this:

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Google says that you had an H&R 600-650.

H&R650

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H&R623

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Hope you didn't have a 623. That thing looks like the barrel might fly off of it for, like, no reason.

I was curious so I went and dug it out--it was actually a 923.

(not mine)

You were close, though--the integral firing pin did snap off of the hammer and fall out the side of the cylinder well. Still, it served me well enough. My dad bought it for me when I was four or five and it lasted until I was nine or ten, which probably meant 5,000 rounds or so. Not too bad considering I've had worse problems with more expensive guns.

 

[NoOne852]

Well, I've only fired the ones my dad own. I won't have a gun until I am living on my own. And the ones he does own, I don't know their model. All I do know is how to clean, maintain, and safely carry and fire. (.308, .30-30, and a 12 gauge if you are wondering. Half my family are hunters including myself)

 

[TotalerKrieger]

Why bother responding to the gun haters? They have every right to voice their opinion, but making a big deal out of it by responding will just derail the thread into a political debate that is rarely constructive...

My first gun was a Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.1 (lower rifle pictured)(LE No.1 Nk.3 pictured above):

Any proud citizen of the British Commonwealth should own either one of these fine rifles. They are the best bolt-action battle rifles ever designed and are a pleasure to shoot.

 

[Dragoon]

The first real rifle I ever used was a m1 Garand-

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The first pistol I ever used was an m1911-

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If I ever move back to America these are the guns I'll want to be my first, I've always loved them in games and being able to hear the Garand ping in real life would be amazing.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Because I am disgusted by guns, I do not own nor will I ever own one. Good day, sirs.

And you feel a need to tell us about it, why?

Well, 'need' might be stretching it a bit. Why do we all 'need' to write to absolute strangers?

 

[thedoclc]

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I bought a Marlin xt .22 lr, blued barrel and synthetic stock. I also got a Remington 700 in .243 sps tactical with synthetic stock and stainless barrel, for that I bought an Elite 4-16 by 40 scope and put the free sabre 3-9 by 40 on the Marlin.
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The first firearm I fired was my issue M-16, then all other US BCT weapons, then finally my issue M4. The first civilian firearm I owned was a relative of the OT's Remington, a 770. The irony is that I can't recommend that weapon to anyone who plans to keep it, but as I just wanted to plink targets for a while before selling it, it worked out quite well. Between its purchase and sale, I basically "rented" and used it for a year for approximately $50 USD. Explanation: I was moving from a location with very loose gun laws to one which was much more restrictive, and attempting to transport the weapon was simply not worth the hassle.

However, the 770 is not a great rifle and should be avoided despite being "like" the 700 (which likely is giving you a fine experience). The majority of reviewers have given it mediocre reviews, though it does have its fans. To me it felt clunky, with poor action. And if you have the 700, there's not much to recommend a weapon which is a bargain version of something you already own.

 

[thedoclc]

May I add when a person enters a thread simply to say the topic annoys them, that they are usually either deliberately trying to get a rise out of you or else feel their opinion is obviously right and unassailable. In either case, especially when nothing relevant to the topic is posted, all you will accomplish by responding is starting a pissing contest.

If only there was some kind of four word phrase about that.

 

[Thaluikhain]

The most accurate soldiers are sent to sniper school, etc, etc. Some weapons, like M209's, are just selected and trained. For the most part, though, you use what your squad needs you to use.

They are? I thought that was down to psychological profile. Or do you mean designated marksman?

...And I just noticed she has a pistol. Which is a bit weird...

Why is that weird?

 

[DefunctTheory]

The most accurate soldiers are sent to sniper school, etc, etc. Some weapons, like M209's, are just selected and trained. For the most part, though, you use what your squad needs you to use.

They are? I thought that was down to psychological profile. Or do you mean designated marksman?

...And I just noticed she has a pistol. Which is a bit weird...

Why is that weird?

They don't check every soldier for sniper school, they look at the top x% of soldiers, determined by weapon skill and general soldiery, and go from their. To be a full blown sniper, you need to pass a lot of test.

As for the pistol, only actual infantry machine gunners usually get pistols, and females can't be infantry (Well, I think they can now, judging by some of the articles I've been reading over the past week, but they couldn't before). The only rear line soldiers who get pistols are officers, CSMs, and people who suck up to those first two. And I doubt someone in that position would carry a M249.

At least, that's my experience in the US Army.

 

[Thaluikhain]

As for the pistol, only actual infantry machine gunners usually get pistols, and females can't be infantry

Ah, that makes sense.

 

[Patathatapon]

My first gun was this beaut.

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My second was this one.


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Yep. I'm totally the most bad ass guy here.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

Of course, check your state laws before you buy any gun.

In the state I live in (why did I have to be born in California? >_<) I would be in deep !#%^ if I even tried to buy a .50 BMG caliber rifle I would get my @$$ thrown into prison before you can say "I want a lawyer," even though there has not been a single murder committed with a .50 BMG rifle ever (bullets to expensive, power is extreme overkill, a grenade would of been quieter...).

OT: Only gun I think is a Marlin .22 (not sure, couldn't bring it to college).

 

[Fijiman]

My first gun was this beaut.

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My second was this one.


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Yep. I'm totally the most bad ass guy here.[/QUOTE]Damn it! I was going to do that!
[sub]Bloody ninjas.[/sub]

 

[Tanis]

I, currently, don't own any guns.

I'm currently at a point in my life where I tend to move a lot and am too lazy to learn what each state's laws are.

 

[DefunctTheory]

Of course, check your state laws before you buy any gun.

In the state I live in (why did I have to be born in California? >_<) I would be in deep !#%^ if I even tried to buy a .50 BMG caliber rifle I would get my @$$ thrown into prison before you can say "I want a lawyer," even though there has not been a single murder committed with a .50 BMG rifle ever (bullets to expensive, power is extreme overkill, a grenade would of been quieter...).

OT: Only gun I think is a Marlin .22 (not sure, couldn't bring it to college).

You can get completely legal .338 and .416 versions. The .416 is arguably better then the .50.

 

[Grant Hobba]

Funny, i am not even a gun owner. There is nothing to be "insecure" about.

I didn't say you were a gun owner. I didn't say you were insecure.

And secondly, yes you did.

But his replies to JN in this thread do kind of read that way

You can't just slap "kind of" in front of something and say you didn't say it.

Read what I wrote again. I said your post "read" that way. Meaning that it sounds as if you might be insecure. I wasn't calling you insecure, because I assume that you are not and you are simply projecting an impression that you don't intend to.

There is such a thing as nuance. Please recognize it.

If I came into a console gamer thread and said "Console games? How quaint." That would be insulting the people in the thread,

It would not. It would be obnoxious, but it doesn't say a single thing about people. Stop reading things into posts that aren't there.

The point is you don't have to be outright called a "dumbass" to be insulted.

People can feel insulted by all kinds of things, but that doesn't mean someone actually insulted them.

There is a big difference between insulting someone by saying "guns are disgusting" on a forum post about first guns to a whole lot of people who enjoy and love the culture as opposed to perhaps saying you are agnostic when someone asks your faith...

One is looking for trouble the other is being asked a question......

This is the whole point..... ><

 

[generals3]

While i do not own nor wish to own any guns I did shoot with the FNC in the army and i can't say i was dissapointed

Depends.

Infantry are assigned weapons due to skill or ability - The strongest guy in the squad gets the M240B...

Oh God how do i dislike people who let others take pictures of themselves with guns while breaking safety rules. (if you're going to break em at least have the intelligence not to make it public)

 

[spartan231490]

So I recently got my A and B class licence and got around to grabbing my first two rifles.

I got a fairly good deal and they don't seem to be lemons (although as a novice shooter I am sure some better marksmen will tell me otherwise)

I am curious to any shooters out there what were your first guns ? do you still have them? did you regret choosing that set up ?

I bought a Marlin xt .22 lr, blued barrel and synthetic stock. I also got a Remington 700 in .243 sps tactical with synthetic stock and stainless barrel, for that I bought an Elite 4-16 by 40 scope and put the free sabre 3-9 by 40 on the Marlin.

I only paid 1100 for both rifles brand new with bags, the 3-9 scope and trigger locks and i paid 560 for the better scope.

Probably a little too much for a first rifle but I do love them (I've only shot out to 200 meters so I am not really proficient just yet )

Experienced shooter here. That sounds a bit high for those two rifles, but I'm guessing from what you mentioned about licences you're from a strict regulation country, so a good chunk of that is probably some kind of tax or importation cost. The Rem 700 is a great rifle, to get a better one you'd either need to spend 2-3 times as much or have a gunsmith put one together from the ground up, and frankly there isn't much reason why you'd need a better rifle, unless you're gonna do competition bench-rest shooting the rem 700 is as good as you need. The marlin is a rifle I've never shot before but they're supposed to be good, they're right up there with the ruger 10/22 in reputation so I would say you did a damn good job picking your first two rifles. Only suggestion is trigger locks kinda suck, if you've got kids in the home you are gonna want some sort of better lock, at least cable locks and probably a gun safe or cabinet.

My first rifle was a bb-gun that I was given on my 10th birthday. My first real rifle was a semi-auto tubular magazine fed .22 youth model made by nobody special that I got when I got my hunting licence at 12, along with my first shotgun which was a model 66 Ithica break action 20 guage. Couldn't have asked for better starting guns, both were more than sufficient to teach me the basics of marksmanship, and though I've upgraded my equipment since, those are two guns I will be proud to hand to my kid(s) and say "Your grandad got me this when I got my hunting licence"

If you don't mind me asking what are you using your rifles for and why did you pick the .243 caliber. Nothing wrong with the choice, I'm just curious.

 

[spartan231490]

Because I am disgusted by guns, I do not own nor will I ever own one. Good day, sirs.

found the anti-gunner! But seriously, why even comment?

I've been looking into this, actually. However, my current state of living in a college dorm means I can't til I move til an apartment, I really want to get one. Prolly a 10/22 followed by a Mosin Nagant since both are cheap as hell.

Careful with the Mosin Nagants. They're cheap as hell for a reason, since they fire primarily corrosive ammo many of them have shit barrels. Not to say you can't find a good one, a lot of them are still good, but take extra care when you buy it to make sure its barrel is in good shape. also, unless you know what you're doing you should spend a little extra and buy the non-corrosive ammo. It's a bit more expensive but it will save you a lot of time and effort cleaning your gun. Still, it's hard to beat what is basically a 30-06 with ammo that cheap. Although be aware, they weren't usually made to have a scope on them so you'll need to get a gun smith to do it if you want a scope on it.
.22LR is damn hard to beat for target shooting. Cheaper, you don't need to maintain it as well, shoots fine, you just can't beat it for having fun.

Will still have to wait a week or so for the license, but I bought my first gun last week; a Weatherby Mark V in 30-06, which I will top with a Swarovski Habicht Nova 4x32 scope. Soon to invest in handloading equipment and never leave my house again...

all good picks, but that's a bit light of a scope, only a X4 zoom.

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I know Right. Silly gun owners spending lots of money and taking time out of the day for a repetitive hobby are so silly, unlike us gamers who spends lots of money and take time out of the day for a... oh. (nothing personal, I just couldn't resist, the joke was to easy)

OT: Don't have a gun yet but I plan to get one for the purpose of hunting (as I love venison and it seems like it would be satisfying to eat something you went out and worked hard for)So I know that my first gun will be a rifle that is rugged enough to handle the woods and a high enough caliber to hunt dear effectively, other than that I'm not really sure. Any suggestions?

What type of deer? Mule, white-tailed, elk? I only ask because some of the larger deer, especially in areas where they reach full maturity, need a pretty hefty caliber to hunt ethically, especially if you're talking long range shots. That said, "if you can't do it with a 30-06, you probably can't do it with anything else." Unless you're out in the midwest or somewhere else where you'll be looking at shots beyond 200-300 yards, I would look long and hard at the new remington model 783, it looks like it's gonna be the best all-around hunting rifle on the market. The best of both worlds, cheap and accurate. If you'd prefer a model that's been around a bit longer and is more time-tested, the savage American classic line is a good accurate rifle that I can personally vouch for, though it'll be almost twice as much as the remington 783. If you are hunting somewhere you know will only see short-range shots, like if you're gonna hunt swamps or any other thick-brushy country, you can't beat the old Winchester lever action carbine in 30-30. Low recoil, enough power for deer and it's cheaper and lighter than the bigger bolt action rifles. One last suggestion, you might want to seriously consider buying a bolt action .22LR before anything else. Marksmanship takes practice, and sadly jumping straight to a big caliber like the 30-06 can ruin your fundamentals. .22LR are cheap both for the gun and for the ammo and because of low recoil won't give you a habit of flinching.

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While the novelty of owning a gun and the potential empowerment it might bring me would be satisfying in the short term I can not justify such an investment in an item that would go mostly unused unless things become really, really shitty.

I would have to take time out of my day to do things with it to justify its purchase and spend more money doing so to perform a function that is, by its nature, 100% repetitive. It does not give me the image of a sound entertainment investment.

I am happy people with liking guns, I just hope they can like their guns over there.

To be fair, it's no worse than buying a console, or a TV or any items you buy purely for entertainment value. Beyond Food, a house and a car(even then, some people might not /need/ a car, and still if you do it only needs to run, a flashy car is just for your enjoyment) anything else you buy is just consumerism that you buy just to enjoy for the sake of it.

it's actually a much better investment than any of those other things. Firearms will last for decades, and maintain their value very very well.

 

[spartan231490]

dnip

I can dig it.
I imagine firing on full auto would be a few seconds of pure, unbridled joy hah
Threads like these really make me wish we could own guns over here, going target shooting must be so satifying

It really is. My friend and I have started calling it "Ballistic Therapy."

Because I am disgusted by guns, I do not own nor will I ever own one. Good day, sirs.

Try firing one, it's a pretty enjoyable experience. I shot a tomato with the .357 magnum I mentioned and a few water bottles.

Yeah, because the whole purpose behind owning a gun has nothing to do with hunting, sport shooting or defending yourself but with how fuckin awsum badazz you feel when you pull that trigger!

I'm struggling to resist the urge to be openly insulting here, but suffice it to say I have no respect for gun owners whatsoever. No, not even if they threaten to fucking shoot me if I don't respect them.

Then why take part in this discussion? Just why?

I'm struggling to resist the urge to be openly insulting here, but suffice it to say I have no respect for gun owners whatsoever. No, not even if they threaten to fucking shoot me if I don't respect them.

Interesting. You have no respect for a group of people who own something you don't like, because... having guns hurts people? That can't be true, because if it was, the United States of America would have its population cut down by, what, a sixth, every year, based on gun ownership rates?

Or do you hate 52 million people because every year, less then 10000 people are murdered with firearms, most of which were in the process of illegal activity? Do you really disrespect 52 million people based on what less then 0.019% of the gun population does (Assuming each one of those murders was committed by a unique individual)?

I mean, that's an entirely fine opinion to have. I just want to be clear on what that opinion entails.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8

Note - USA used for stats because it has the best numbers available and because I live here/

Firstly, the majority of murderers who use firarms are not legal firearms owners but gang-bangers. Second, best estimate places the number of firearms owners in the US at close to 80 million, not 52 million.

I do not live in a country where owning guns is generally permitted, and while I don't oppose owning them (although the obsession some people has bothers me). I can't pretend that I am knowledgeable enough about differing guns to really say exactly what one I might own, should I be allowed.

If I could I'd have a nice simple pistol. Nothing fancy, I'd prefer reliability, over anything else, seeing as the chances of it ever being used against somebody dressed in a tank is somewhat unlikely.

Not that you'll probably ever need to know, but if you're looking for a simple no-frills reliable handgun, you can't really beat a glock. 1911s aren't bad either but tend to have a few more frills and be a little more expensive.

Because I am disgusted by guns, I do not own nor will I ever own one. Good day, sirs.

Then why bother commenting? At all?

If you have nothing of value to say other than to "imply" an insult, then don't say anything. Not a very hard thing to do.

There was no insult implied here. Someone disliking a thing you like is not an insult. It's an opinion.

He didn't say dislike, he said he was disgusted by them. That is both insulting and it did nothing to further the discussion. Notice that several others have said "I don't really like guns, but hey whatever" and no one was bothered by that. His post went beyond simply stating dislike.