Five Nights at Freddy's Creator Pens an Emotional Open Letter to His Haters

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Well, good for him for taking criticism so well. After all the devs who have thrown shit fits over criticism, it's nice to see one guy who has a level head about him. Well said, sir. (Applauds)
 

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Fox12 said:
He's donated a few hundred thousand to charity (because of course he did) so I would say he's certainly not hurting. Of course, you factor in college funds for two kids and other expenses, and any success is welcome. The man is humble in the face of overwhelming success, and he's used criticism to actually improve his work. It's hard to have anything but respect for the man. He's model of behavior for other indie devs to follow. You could learn a thing or two Phil Fish.
Oh, so he is better off than I thought. But, he is indeed humble. Hearing what you just said about him makes me respect him even more.
 

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It's sad that an indie developer has to deal with this hate - not constructive criticism or valid complaints, but just plain unfounded hatred because he is successful.
I never got into FNAF, but a few of the teenage guys at my church were raving about it, and I watched them play a game. It was actually a really novel idea, and seemed very well executed. You could tell that time went into creating it, and I was genuinely impressed when I found out it was all done by literally one guy. It's sad that people will go to so much effort just to harass someone they dislike due to a difference in personal tastes.

RealRT said:
Well that was refreshingly nice, I actually want to give one of the FNAFs a try now. Kudos to the guy, he's like a Negative Universe version of Phil Fish.
Let's hope they never meet in real life, It could cause the end of the universe as we know it!
 

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The Almighty Aardvark said:
I'm not sure I've seen any of the hate for this guy. Which is weird, because if anything reverberates quickly around here it's people being angry at things.

Hard to comment on this without the actual criticism to look at (Maybe there's not much and he's just really sensitive to it?), but I agree with the point that he's making. It's so easy to forget that people in the spotlight are people too, and so many people just treat them as outlets for their frustration.

Karadalis said:
Is this the same nonsense hate that people throw at pewdiepie because he made 7 mil last year?

Never get why people feel the need to hate on others because they made alot of cash with their hobbies...
For me personally, whatever dislike I have for Pewdiepie has nothing to do with the fact that he makes millions of dollars every year. Hell, I don't even hate him, all accounts I've heard of him as a person make him out to sound like a pretty great guy.

That being said, what I've seen of his videos was pretty awful and it's a little depressing to know that they're the highest demand on the internet.
Well, he is a Christian White Male, attacks on him aren't news

For example on http://shutdown8chan.tumblr.com he's lumped into the 'enemies' group and slandered in an impressively bigoted way.
 

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Eric the Orange said:
I always found the reaction "something I don't like is successful therefore I hate the person who made it" weird. It comes from the fallacy that an audience is a zero sum game in that, "if those people like that thing I don't like, that's less people that will like this thing I do like".
Precisely. It's a childish, selfish mentality that's all too common. "I must demolish the things that I hate, so people have no choice but to like what I like, so more things that I like will be made."
 

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Man, this guy's alright. He just demonstrated how to be a model figure to all people who make a living on the Internet, as well as to his kids. And he made a more effective version of the message in the infamous "JUST DO IT" video. Hat's off.
 

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Hairless Mammoth said:
Fox12 said:
He's donated a few hundred thousand to charity (because of course he did) so I would say he's certainly not hurting. Of course, you factor in college funds for two kids and other expenses, and any success is welcome. The man is humble in the face of overwhelming success, and he's used criticism to actually improve his work. It's hard to have anything but respect for the man. He's model of behavior for other indie devs to follow. You could learn a thing or two Phil Fish.
Oh, so he is better off than I thought. But, he is indeed humble. Hearing what you just said about him makes me respect him even more.
To be fair, that may be crazy money for you and me, but it's probably peanuts to Hollywood. It's just good to see a down-on-his-luck, struggling father catch a break. Especially when he takes it with humbleness and humility. Most people aren't that grounded.
 

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RealRT said:
Well that was refreshingly nice, I actually want to give one of the FNAFs a try now. Kudos to the guy, he's like a Negative Universe version of Phil Fish.
Funny you bring Fish here, because he really is the opposite
Fish made a single game and he feels he's king shit of fuck mountain
Scott made a shitload of games, and FNaF at the rate he did, and he still keeps himself grounded and humble
that being said
come on Scott, bring back Souldozer
 

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I think Scott Cawthorn is over-producing the Fnaf games, but i don't hate him. I hate the fanbase that his games spawned. The screaming facecam users have ruined my want to ever play the game.

Only ProJared made the game fairly interesting, because he didn't lose his mind when a jump scare happened.
 

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As a huge fan of FNAF and Scott as a person, I am proud to see such a smart and humble game developer, it gives me a shred of hope for the industry in general...
 

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I still can't get over that it's just one fucking guy making these things.

And quickly too!

It's impressive as hell just at face value. And I do enjoy watching the games being played (Markiplier!) so...hell, the guy gets all of the respect and kudos I can afford to give 'em.
 

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LostGryphon said:
I still can't get over that it's just one fucking guy making these things.

And quickly too!

It's impressive as hell just at face value. And I do enjoy watching the games being played (Markiplier!) so...hell, the guy gets all of the respect and kudos I can afford to give 'em.
Well once you take the coat of paint off they are very basic games. That's not to say they're bad, quite the opposite. They're cheap games that people enjoy, we're often VERY crital of an expensive game being short or not living up to the budget, but when a game is released for the price that most games would wait 'till a steam sale for people still complain it's not silent hill.

Hell they're probably one of the best Episodic games out there, short, cheap games released very quickly.


That said, one of the biggest complaints I've heard about FNaF is it's reliance on jumpscares and this has been a trend I've noticed in recent years; Horror-snobbery, as horror has moved out of it's grindhouse/video nasty roots the old guard have turned their noses up at anything that isn't a psychological masterpiece.
 

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Well, shit. Good going, Scott. While you had a perfect and well-written response to your critics, you said the dreaded "G-word" so now you're going to get even more hate than you did before. If I was you, I'd batten down the hatches, because it's going to be so much worse now.
 

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LysanderNemoinis said:
Well, shit. Good going, Scott. While you had a perfect and well-written response to your critics, you said the dreaded "G-word" so now you're going to get even more hate than you did before. If I was you, I'd batten down the hatches, because it's going to be so much worse now.
Well the G-man's got a lot to answer for lately. Locking up Gordon Freeman like that.
 

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Shoggoth2588 said:
And here I am under the impression that Five Nights 4 was quite successful but apparently I am mistaken (or rather, I was unaware that FNaF4 was being heavily criticized). This kind of thing makes me really respect Scott and as others have said, this is an excellent way to deal with criticism.
They've all been fairly successful as far as I know, but another sector of the internet has been repeatedly lashing out at FNaF, anybody who likes it, and Scott ever since the first game became really huge on Youtube.

JimB said:
I never heard that anyone had a problem with Mr. Cawthon, and can't imagine why anyone would have one. What did he ever do to anyone?
He made some games they didn't like. On the internet, that's the second-worst crime any person could ever commit.

OT: I'm kinda with Jim Sterling on the whole FNaF saga in general, though I think I "get" the franchise better than he does. They're not for me, and I have nothing but respect and admiration for Scott for not only bouncing back from the criticism of his Chipper & Sons Greenlight trailer the way he did, but also taking the criticism and turning it into a hugely successful franchise and never losing his perspective.
 

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The only problem I really have with Scott is that he released 4 games of the same franchise within less than a year. I cant fault him for that though, they were damn popular and made him quite a lot of money. While I haven't played the games in question(I own the first one), I respect his work. I think his response to people "hating" on him was fantastic.
 

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I honestly understand why people would be annoyed with Scott to begin with, considering he's made four games in the past year, all following the same basic goldmine of a formula. But I can forgive him for it since he makes a genuine effort to mix it up each time, and unlike a great many indie devs like the ones we see Jim Sterling covering, he makes the game that fits his given budget, he doesn't make the barest possible foundations of some over-ambitious title, throw it on Early Access and ask for $60. Why do some indie devs struggle with this? You make what you can afford, polish it to a mirror shine, and sell it at a reasonable price.
 

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The Almighty Aardvark said:
I'm not sure I've seen any of the hate for this guy. Which is weird, because if anything reverberates quickly around here it's people being angry at things.

Hard to comment on this without the actual criticism to look at (Maybe there's not much and he's just really sensitive to it?), but I agree with the point that he's making. It's so easy to forget that people in the spotlight are people too, and so many people just treat them as outlets for their frustration.

Karadalis said:
Is this the same nonsense hate that people throw at pewdiepie because he made 7 mil last year?

Never get why people feel the need to hate on others because they made alot of cash with their hobbies...
For me personally, whatever dislike I have for Pewdiepie has nothing to do with the fact that he makes millions of dollars every year. Hell, I don't even hate him, all accounts I've heard of him as a person make him out to sound like a pretty great guy.

That being said, what I've seen of his videos was pretty awful and it's a little depressing to know that they're the highest demand on the internet.
Pretty much this. I love Pewdiepie as a person but not a fan of his vids. What gets really annoying is his fans flagging other horror game lets plays because apparently only Pewdiepie can play those games.
 

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Broderick said:
The only problem I really have with Scott is that he released 4 games of the same franchise within less than a year.
May I ask why you think this is a problem? I kind of respect it personally, after all why sit on a completed game until some arbitrary date? Especially in this day and age when some of the best marketing an indie can get is by word of mouth and youtubers playing their game