Fixing the PSPGo

[Eclectic Dreck]

I've said it once and I'll say it million times more if need be; NO!! This isn't a god damn PSP2, it's just a redesign of the PSP, hence forth a second nub is neither practical or a good idea in general to implement. It would just be redundant. It would server no use, nor be usable for early games as that means patching every single god damn game, which would be a disastrous failure. If used in future games it would fuck over anyone who DOESN'T have a Go and not everyone is willing to upgrade to this.

Also NO, I know what your thinking right now, your going to point to the PS1 and it's transition to the dual shock as your defense. Well guess what, NO that will not work in this case at all for all the reasons I have said and one critical one. Unlike the PSP's console brothers, it's control mechanism is built into the system and cannot be switch. With the PS1 you were able to just buy a new controller and poof, all games there on wouldn't be a hassle. Hand Helds do not have that luxury, so for the millionth time NO! Dual analogue is something that is best left for the PSP2 (whenever that comes out).

I don't follow your argument. You don't want a second analog stick because it wouldn't work in old games? That doesn't make any sense to me at all. What's more, they desperately need to give people some reason to buy one who already have one. Why reason could I possibly have to purchase a Go when I already own a PSP?

That's a serious question because I've been asking that a lot these days.

The PSPGo is to the other PSPs as the DSi is to the other DSes.
Just a cheaper thing with some minor gimmicky improvements that aren't really necessary so it can be sold more expensive for a while.

It's meant for those that don't have a PSP, need a new PSP and the spoiled brats that want the newest of the newest.

Except all those UMD's I have suddenly become useless? I'm not gaining anything in the transaction is my point. My PSP can utalize the same kind of memory sticks and and play games in the same way as the GO. It can also play a UMD which the GO cannot. The DSi gives people a minor incentive to upgrade because it is literally an upgrade in every sense of the word. With the Go, I have no incentive.

 

[Monocle Man]

The PSPGo is to the other PSPs as the DSi is to the other DSes.
Just a cheaper thing with some minor gimmicky improvements that aren't really necessary so it can be sold more expensive for a while.

It's meant for those that don't have a PSP, need a new PSP and the spoiled brats that want the newest of the newest.

Except all those UMD's I have suddenly become useless? I'm not gaining anything in the transaction is my point. My PSP can utalize the same kind of memory sticks and and play games in the same way as the GO. It can also play a UMD which the GO cannot. The DSi gives people a minor incentive to upgrade because it is literally an upgrade in every sense of the word. With the Go, I have no incentive.

The DSi got rid of the GBA slot, if I recall correctly.
Though, you are correct that it would be a bad thing to come from a normal PSP when you have UMDs.

Wait, a memory suddenly struck me.
The PSPgo and the PSP3000 will both be on the market at the same time.

Past PSP owners that need a replacement will get a 3000.

The Go is there for the extra convenience of not having hard versions of your games, being smaller and being slightly lighter. Most likely for those new to PSP, or those that no longer find their UMDs useful.

If you like your hard games there is indeed no reason to go Go.

 

[TheGreenManalishi]

But the 3000 is the most gimped example of a PSP yet. The screen is shockingly wrong and, like making the PS2 and PS3 at the same time, it makes no sense. Lower the price of the 'superior' console, and make it so that people who are upgrading but have UMDs can fully utilise the software they have already purchased.

 

[GonzoGamer]

Yes it needs a second nub, a drop in price, and a umd ripper (for those of us who have UMD games/movies).

 

[Gerazzi]

Ask and you shall receive:

Spoiler: What I want out of the PSP

A poorly photoshopped PSP Go!

Interesting....not bad. I dare say it might work better now.

thanks...
but I still want an UMD drive.

 

[Syphonz]

Weren`t they playing Gran Turismo Mobile with a UMD for the PSP Go at E3?

 

[TheTygerfire]

When playing on any dual-analogue-equipped gamepad, how often do you use the left or 'secondary' stick?

All the time, as it moves my character.

 

[TheGreenManalishi]

Fixed.

 

[Zer_]

People were fine with the fact that Sony added two joysticks to the original PS1 controller. Most games never used both of them, yet giving the user a choice between the left or right stick would be nice to have. Before they even think of that they need to improve the thumbstick itself so it doesn't suck so bad.

 

[Jumplion]

Fixing the PSPGo! is easy.
Ditch it, continue on with only developing the psp 3000 and the rest.
This download only crap is bullshit.

And yet, people cream at the pants for services like STEAM and XBL.

*sigh*

 

[-Seraph-]

Except all those UMD's I have suddenly become useless? I'm not gaining anything in the transaction is my point. My PSP can utalize the same kind of memory sticks and and play games in the same way as the GO. It can also play a UMD which the GO cannot. The DSi gives people a minor incentive to upgrade because it is literally an upgrade in every sense of the word. With the Go, I have no incentive.

Sony is working on a method for people to convert their UMD's into legal ISO's, so that problem is solved right there. Also, if you didn't understand my argument...then your a lost cause because what I said was clear as freaking day. Honestly, you can't alter the control, scheme of an already existing system because it will backlash on you big time. Read my argument more carefully, you CAN'T add a second nub because it would divide the user base and fuck things up. And honestly, if you already got a PSP, then the Go is not aimed at you unless your REALLY want to upgrade.

Honestly, people gotta stop whining about the lack of a second nub and just enjoy the god damn system for what it is. I mean seriously, the pettiness of some people is saddening.

 

[Player 2]

Ask and you shall receive:

Spoiler: What I want out of the PSP

A poorly photoshopped PSP Go!

This, but with a proper keyboard as well so I don't have to be fiddling about with the analogue stick all the time.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

Except all those UMD's I have suddenly become useless? I'm not gaining anything in the transaction is my point. My PSP can utalize the same kind of memory sticks and and play games in the same way as the GO. It can also play a UMD which the GO cannot. The DSi gives people a minor incentive to upgrade because it is literally an upgrade in every sense of the word. With the Go, I have no incentive.

Sony is working on a method for people to convert their UMD's into legal ISO's, so that problem is solved right there. Also, if you didn't understand my argument...then your a lost cause because what I said was clear as freaking day. Honestly, you can't alter the control, scheme of an already existing system because it will backlash on you big time. Read my argument more carefully, you CAN'T add a second nub because it would divide the user base and fuck things up. And honestly, if you already got a PSP, then the Go is not aimed at you unless your REALLY want to upgrade.

Honestly, people gotta stop whining about the lack of a second nub and just enjoy the god damn system for what it is. I mean seriously, the pettiness of some people is saddening.

I'm not specifically advocating a second stick, I'm saying that as it stands right now sony has given me zero reason to purchase a PSP go when I already have one that literally does everything the new one does only it does it better (i.e. I have the capacity to use my current media in addition to the new potential DLC that may deem important enough to add to the store).

And, to back up a few steps more, I think you've forgotten that there is plenty of precident here. The DSi can play games the DS cannot (the so called DSi specific games). The Wii is going to launch motion plus in short order. Giving the Go a second stick may anger some people, but it doesn't affect the system's ability to play old games and gives you a reason to buy it since new games could offer support for the second stick.

The upgrade need not be a change in control but it needs to be something tangible. As it stands, I don't see anything about the go that makes it an upgrade.

 

[Daedalus1942]

Fixing the PSPGo! is easy.
Ditch it, continue on with only developing the psp 3000 and the rest.
This download only crap is bullshit.

And yet, people cream at the pants for services like STEAM and XBL.

*sigh*

I've hated Steam since day one. It's buggy as all hell, and the only good thing about it is if you lose the game for whatever reason and it's registered to your steam account, you're still able to play it.
The downwside is I wonder just how long we have before you can no longer buy the physical discs anymore. Do you think we will ever reach that point, where everything in gaming is download only?

 

[Jumplion]

Fixing the PSPGo! is easy.
Ditch it, continue on with only developing the psp 3000 and the rest.
This download only crap is bullshit.

And yet, people cream at the pants for services like STEAM and XBL.

*sigh*

I've hated Steam since day one. It's buggy as all hell, and the only good thing about it is if you lose the game for whatever reason and it's registered to your steam account, you're still able to play it.
The downwside is I wonder just how long we have before you can no longer buy the physical discs anymore. Do you think we will ever reach that point, where everything in gaming is download only?

Oh, thank you, I thought you were going to be a hypocrite there. (not sarcasm, don't worry)

Personally, I don't think digital distribution will ever fully take over physical media, and if it does it won't be for a LLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG time. DD can only compliment physical media like disks and such.

 

[scotth266]

I've said it once and I'll say it million times more if need be; NO!! This isn't a god damn PSP2, it's just a redesign of the PSP, hence forth a second nub is neither practical or a good idea in general to implement. It would just be redundant. It would server no use, nor be usable for early games as that means patching every single god damn game, which would be a disastrous failure. If used in future games it would fuck over anyone who DOESN'T have a Go and not everyone is willing to upgrade to this.

By that logic, Nintendo has been "fucking people over" since October 21, 1998.

You don't need to upgrade all the previous games either: just have the second stick do nothing when you play them. There, problem solved.

 

[Gaming_Purist]

I'd rather have one nub than two very awkwardly placed nubs. That's just me though.

I'd rather have a DS.

/runs away

 

[-Seraph-]

I've said it once and I'll say it million times more if need be; NO!! This isn't a god damn PSP2, it's just a redesign of the PSP, hence forth a second nub is neither practical or a good idea in general to implement. It would just be redundant. It would server no use, nor be usable for early games as that means patching every single god damn game, which would be a disastrous failure. If used in future games it would fuck over anyone who DOESN'T have a Go and not everyone is willing to upgrade to this.

By that logic, Nintendo has been "fucking people over" since October 21, 1998.

You don't need to upgrade all the previous games either: just have the second stick do nothing when you play them. There, problem solved.

You just proved my point right there. The damn stick is redundant and if used for future games, those games will be incomparable with older models! God dammit people, think this through, if you actually did you will see what I'm saying. This doesn't require a lot of freaking brain power.

The upgrade need not be a change in control but it needs to be something tangible. As it stands, I don't see anything about the go that makes it an upgrade.

The go is like the DSi, it's not meant for current owners, it's for people who don't already have a PSP. Honestly, I don't see this infatuation of people buying the same system over again unless they damaged their old one. Sony isn't targeting YOU, they are targeting non-owners!

 

[scotth266]

You just proved my point right there. The damn stick is redundant and if used for future games, those games will be incomparable with older models! God dammit people, think this through, if you actually did you will see what I'm saying. This doesn't require a lot of freaking brain power.

How have I proved your point at all? The stick obviously isn't redundant: people want it for a REASON.

Besides, it's ridiculous to think older systems should be able to play games from newer models. That's like asking a Commodore 64 to play Infamous, or a Gameboy to play Elite Beat Agent. It just doesn't make sense.

 

[-Seraph-]

You just proved my point right there. The damn stick is redundant and if used for future games, those games will be incomparable with older models! God dammit people, think this through, if you actually did you will see what I'm saying. This doesn't require a lot of freaking brain power.

How have I proved your point at all? The stick obviously isn't redundant: people want it for a REASON.

Besides, it's ridiculous to think older systems should be able to play games from newer models. That's like asking a Commodore 64 to play Infamous, or a Gameboy to play Elite Beat Agent. It just doesn't make sense.

THIS IS NOT A PSP2, it is no different than the god damn DSi. So this isn't a true upgrade but a redesign. You CAN'T add in a second stick for all the reasons I mentioned in the original post. Honestly this is not hard to comprehend. Adding a second stick is redundant to a system that originally never had it. It doesn't matter if people want it, what they don't realize that at this stage in the systems life it's useless. Now just be happy with what you get or don't buy it at all.

I normally don't get pissed off over this sort of stuff but I have been saying this till my face has turned blue. NO NO NO NO NO!!! it can't work in any practical sense!! Now to reiterate if you didn't catch it the first time: This is not a PSP2, this is nothing more than a redesign like the DSi, hence forth you cannot alter the control scheme as it will compromise the system and game compatibility.