GLo Jones said:
derelix said:
GLo Jones said:
derelix said:
GLo Jones said:
derelix said:
GLo Jones said:
Stewardesses said:
Get this straight, I do not want to start one, I want to discuss one.
I think that each console is as good as it's opponent, even though I do have a 360. I want people's opinions on why it started, and if it matters to you.
One of my thoughts is that if somebody has something, and it's competing with something else, and they can't get it; then they must prove it not worthy of getting. It might be because they don't have money for another console, or just that they are stubborn.
I'm not asking about how good the argument is either way, I'm asking WHY (you think) it's like this.
It's a result of the insecurity in your purchase, mixed with the human need to belong.
We recognise ourselves as being in a certain group, then our mind will conclude that our group is superior in order to boost our self-esteem without having to manipulate our view of ourselves.
IMO, all console gamers desperately need the opposing console to survive and compete. Mankind always performs best when it's competing against itself, and having a rival console of similar success leads to much greater titles being developed. Constant one-upmanship is the fast-track to greatness.
Because of this, I whole heartedly support the concept of console exclusives, and hope for a long continued, and heated, console war. Fanboy flame wars are just a disappointing byproduct of this.
Honestly I think the blind fanboyism is holding them all back. When I had a ps3, it constantly had weird problems but when I asked for help online i either got called a nintendo troll or they said it doesn't matter because it's better than the RROD.
When people get this defensive about their consoles, the companies have no reason to fix the problems. Sony releases firmware that bricks a bunch of ps3s? Well according to their policy (at least at the time) they are not responsible and don't have to replace your console if the warranty ran out. The ps3 fan response was mostly "well it worked fine with me, probably just xbox fanboys trying to make ps look bad" so sony gets a pass and nobody seems to care.
It's idiotic. Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo all know they can leave huge flaws or problems with their console and people will blindly defend it for them.
But then again, the opposition have something to pick at. "You have that cool new exclusive? Good luck playing it with *generic problem here*." The three giants are all desperately trying to get their box in as many homes as possible, and defects do not help them. For example, the RROD was devastating to Microsoft, the amount of gamers and potential buyers they lost from that was tremendous.
There's a lot to lose by leaving major problems in your console, so unless the help site is not officially run by the company in question, they should do their best to help you. Though tech support can be pretty poor with any company, not just those three...
I really wish that mattered but it doesn't. You have a bunch of xbox fanboys who don't own and don't plan to buy a ps3 saying the firmware bricks your console and you have ps3 fanboys who don't own a 360 and don't plan too, saying you always get the RROD. If a majority of customers are willing to defend their console blindly while paying for everything they sell, you don't need to fix your problems.
Do you think the RROD is such a hard thing to fix? Seems like it's a simple design flaw that should have been fixed with their first redesign. I mean I can forgive it at first but after all the different editions (pro, elite, stuff like that) you would think they had plenty of time to figure out the problem without the pressure of beating the other console to the finish line.
Do you think all console gamers are fanboys? I'd say only about 25% are, which leaves a large amount open to influence. There's also a vast amount of casual gamers yet to buy anything of this generation. Fanboys are the ones that make themselves heard, but they aren't who Microsoft or Sony consider when they're thinking about future profit.
true but how many regular console gamers will be able to do anything when their console breaks and the company won't replace it because it's past the warranty or it doesn't have one to begin with?
Don't buy another? Great except they got the money for the first one. The average consumer will buy another because they don't want to deal with all that shit, and if they choose to "deal with it" they usually just get the runaround until they tire themselves out and quit.
They don't make money based on what you think, it's based on what you buy and how much you pay. It doesn't help sony that they have free online, most people instinctively assume the online gaming service you pay for has to be better. My point is there is no logic to it, the consumer loses and usually the companies end up losing money but that just gives them an excuse to be even more cut throat.
The whole gaming industry is vicious and corporate right now and I'm pretty close to saying fuck it all.
Well I see exactly where you're coming from, but I still support the idea that the console war is beneficial to gamers. If there was no competition, and Microsoft/Sony had a monopoly over the games market, do you really think things would get better? It would be a disaster, and would cripple the games industry.
As for the flame wars, well like I said earlier, they're just an unfortunate byproduct of this competition.
I'm not saying one company should have a monopoly but what we have now is 3 companies owning the console gaming industry. At least when it's just one, they generally make the product functional because they know people will just stop using it if it's not but in this case they can simply point out that it's better than their competitor.
If this is such a competition, why are we not seeing the benefits that competition usually brings? The ps3 and 360 are both pretty much the same (you can point out tiny differences but it's nothing like the differences between playstation and N64) and it doesn't seem like their trying to improve their own product to compete. Occasionally one console makes a feature designed to mimic something that the other can do.
A console war does not equal competition. Having two different video formats wouldn't make things better, it makes things worse. That's why with things like movies we usually stick with one format and it works out fine. Other companies can make different versions and you can choose what one you like best.
If you buy a 360, it's going to have the same flaws as every other 360. No other company is allowed to make a system that plays 360 games, even if it works better. This isn't a real competition, it's the illusion of competition. We have 3 companies running a monopoly on console gaming and we have no choice but to accept it or quit playing.
