Forget Dante's Inferno 2, Visceral Wants Macbeth

DasAShinyGolash

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Andy Chalk said:
Forget Dante's Inferno 2, Visceral Wants Macbeth


There are no plans for a sequel to Macbeth [http://www.dantesinferno.com/home.action].

It's a little hard to believe, but Knight says that at this point in the process - and with Dante's Inferno scheduled for release next week, the process is pretty far along - Dante's Inferno [http://www.visceralgames.com/] that will be coming out soon, like a prequel campaign that shows the dark forest and unveil."

Dante's Inferno has been given a huge amount of pre-release hype that will culminate in an ad that will play during EA's [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/97928-The-End-Is-Nigh-Dantes-Inferno-Super-Bowl-Ad] biggest of the year. In an industry that's built around "sequelization" and long-term franchises, a follow-up to a game like that is all but mandatory, so Knight's suggestion that it might not happen has a bit of a dubious ring to it, to say the least.

So once Dante's Inferno and its various expansions are wrapped up, what would he like to do next? "Macbeth: The Game is something I've been thinking about for years, but now, I think the emotional quality that games are achieving and the value level of the acting and the sound work makes it possible," he said. "The thing is, the unique quality of games is being interactive; it's about action and killing things and pursuing those mechanics is tricky when bringing in classic media. Dante's is more of a violent interpretation of the poem for example. Macbeth would be great, though; there are witches and a supernatural experience along with plenty of intrigue and murder."

A Macbeth videogame? You'd better believe I'd sign up for that.


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how many times are you going to use that picture?
 

TsunamiWombat

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I dunno, given that Macbeth is about betrayel and war, it could work.

Especially if you play Macduff.
 

ma55ter_fett

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lol What?

Macbeth?

Man not born of a women?

Never vanquish'd be until Great Birnam Wood to high Dunsinane Hill shall come against him

Ok, good luck to them, not sure how they would go about it.

Maybe it's another marketing campain stunt?
 

Lancer873

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Dang! That sounds awesome!!! I suppose the biggest question I'd have is who you'd play as, since the central protagonist of the story isn't really made clear until the end of the story. Hey, if he does it well enough, I say that sounds like an amazing idea!
 

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malestrithe said:
zombie711 said:
Is nothing safe? But at least Macbeth was gory and fun to read so if they stick to the book a bit more then dante's inferno it's all right
Nothing new, really. Edith Nesbit took the stories of shakespeare and rewrote them for children over 100 years ago. Macbeth has been modernized many times. One of them, Sleep No More, was reworked into a Hitchcockian thriller, with music cues and everything. A kruosawa movie, Throne of Blood, is Macbeth but in feudal Japan.

Let's not forget that Gargoyles took this entire storyline, reworked it and used it as one of their main anti heroes.

Video game developers are now adapting classics and it becomes the end of the world? I will not get some people. Movie and film adaptations okay. Video game adaptations not so much.

I do not care if they modernize Macbeth into an ultraviolent video game because nothing is really sacred. Nor should it be. If we do not take our classics off the shelf and use them every so often, they might become forgotten.

Then again, Edgar Allen Poe might be a better fit for a ultraviolent video game. He focused on the dark side of humanity for a long time.
My inner English major says this. It's not the first time that a classic piece of literature has been mined shamelessly. Yes, I'm sad to see Dante's Inferno entirely missing the point, but at the same time if it gets someone to read the actual books then I'm all for it.
 

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No. No. No. NO!

This...this is going too far. Raping a classic to make a god of war clone was bad enough. But this?

This is just wrong.

Are developers so creatively bankrupt that they cant make new properties on their own, and instead rely on the shock factor of taking a well known work and then breaking it down into a series of quick time events, upgrade gathering and other such bullshit?
 

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Okay. If know one has made the joke yet allow me.

Macbeth Video game sounds like a horrible idea. It's a cursed play. Every xbox it is put in will red ring! Every Ps3 will turn into an Xbox then Red Ring!
Don't worry, the devs will all be dead before the game's even finished anyway, so I think the rest of us are safe.

I'll be extremely interested to see how they manage to turn it into a fully interactive game format. I really don't know how it would work. As far as I can see, the plot would have to be extremely linear to pull off even a storyline than is even remotely faithful to the source material. How the game will project Macbeth's state of mind during the game, and make the player both sympathise and empathise with the character, will be phenomenally difficult.

Besides, Titus Andronicus is where it's at. "Die, die Lavinia, and thy shame with thee. And with thy shame, thy father's sorrow DIE!"
 

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MDSnowman said:
My inner English major says this. It's not the first time that a classic piece of literature has been mined shamelessly. Yes, I'm sad to see Dante's Inferno entirely missing the point, but at the same time if it gets someone to read the actual books then I'm all for it.
My inner English major agrees with you. He is not happy that this is happening, but he is glad that the game will get people to read the thing. He is also aware that there is no correct interpretation of anything and sees the Diving Comedy not as poetic justice, but as a personal story of self discovery and redemption. The poem starts off "Midway in our life's journey, I went astray/ from the straight road and woke to find myself/ alone in a dark wood." He takes that to mean Dante is at a crisis in life and he is trying to come to grips with that. If taken that way, the video game comes very close to the meaning he wants from the Inferno.

Anyway, enough 3rd person. This is not the shameless one. Go Nagai used it as inspiration for his Devilman manga and OAV series. All the demons that the main character fought had a direct parallel and inspiration from Dante's Inferno.
 

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Andronicus said:
I'll be extremely interested to see how they manage to turn it into a fully interactive game format. I really don't know how it would work. As far as I can see, the plot would have to be extremely linear to pull off even a storyline than is even remotely faithful to the source material. How the game will project Macbeth's state of mind during the game, and make the player both sympathise and empathise with the character, will be phenomenally difficult.
I would argue that Macbeth is the only play the developers could use as a video game. It has the most fantastical elements of all the plays. It has the most compelling reason for the players to do these things. Most importantly, it is the most straight forward.
 

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while far-fetched, I admire them for tenacity to translate historic literature into games...it might make a society of pimply face nerds actually start acting intellectual...one can dream
 

Andronicus

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malestrithe said:
Andronicus said:
I'll be extremely interested to see how they manage to turn it into a fully interactive game format. I really don't know how it would work. As far as I can see, the plot would have to be extremely linear to pull off even a storyline than is even remotely faithful to the source material. How the game will project Macbeth's state of mind during the game, and make the player both sympathise and empathise with the character, will be phenomenally difficult.
I would argue that Macbeth is the only play the developers could use as a video game. It has the most fantastical elements of all the plays. It has the most compelling reason for the players to do these things. Most importantly, it is the most straight forward.
Well, I'm not arguing that Macbeth would be one of the harder Shakespeare plays to make, hell I haven't even read half of them so I really wouldn't know. I can't pass judgement on the majority of Shakespeare's works, but it's just my opinion that, given the nature of the character of Macbeth and the linearity of the storyline, it'll be difficult to direct players through the game without making it seem too much like an interactive novel, with tonnes of cutscenes or something like that, without some heavy-handed reimagining of the source material.
 

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If they really aren't doing a sequel to Inferno, you have to give them props for knowing when to end a god thing-- there's a reason "Purgatorio" and "Paradiso" aren't the same sort of classic "Inferno" is.
 

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"Macbeth would be great, though; there are witches and a supernatural experience along with plenty of intrigue and murder; and tits, did I mention how much tits we could have. Think of a topless Portia telling her husband to murder the undead soldiers that would be his enemy. Tits!"

I like the fact that they're looking to the classics for inspiration; it's just that they find the non-ADHD adolescent shit spawn version, the original version, completely boring and useless. It?s like making a game about Romeo killing hordes of Tibolt?s men to avenge Mercutio?s death because they like that one aspect in ?Romeo and Juliet?.
 

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Hey, at least they didn't try and do MidSummer Night's Dream.

Altho, an Assassin's creed style Romeo and Juliet would be bitchin' for a small release. Like three hours of game play, you can scale and duel with montegues and capulets. Hit on women from pushes, and kill yourself.

This Genera just gets better and better.

Classic books into new gen games! Oh i can't wait for Canterbury Tales, or a tell tale heart!
 

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Hmmm....ummm. Well at least the main character would actually be a fierce warrior. But I can't see it being a good game as its more of a moral story. Not really an action-y game....but then again Dantes Inferno...but I don't think it'd be good....especially now that I know how it ends.
 

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Man, there's a point in which something gets so stupid it wraps around and becomes awesome, and Dante's Inferno is already edging pretty close to that line. I'll buy any brawler they release turning classics of literature into bloodfests. Show me Don Quijote stomping giants into a pool of blood, a retelling of The Murders of Rue Morgue in which you are the gorilla, and an insane axe maniac's rampage in CRIME AND PUNISHMENT II: PUNISH HARDER. Hooray for public domain!

...Better than trying to adapt the Paradise section into the game. So there's a chorus of singing angels being happy... and you murder them. Hm.

...That thing with Don Quijote looks cool, though. An action game showing the things he imagines are happening. I'd buy that.

Sparrow said:
"New Quest!: Get The Blood Off Your Hands"


[small]Who are we kidding... there's like 120% chance of an achievement called that if the game does come out.[/small]
I don't think it could be any weirder than Eternal Sonata, the one about Chopin, so sure, let's do it, and how about Pride and Prejudice and Zombies: The Game while we're at it?

malestrithe said:
zombie711 said:
Is nothing safe? But at least Macbeth was gory and fun to read so if they stick to the book a bit more then dante's inferno it's all right
Nothing new, really. Edith Nesbit took the stories of shakespeare and rewrote them for children over 100 years ago. Macbeth has been modernized many times. One of them, Sleep No More, was reworked into a Hitchcockian thriller, with music cues and everything. A kruosawa movie, Throne of Blood, is Macbeth but in feudal Japan.

Let's not forget that Gargoyles took this entire storyline, reworked it and used it as one of their main anti heroes.

Video game developers are now adapting classics and it becomes the end of the world? I will not get some people. Movie and film adaptations okay. Video game adaptations not so much.

I do not care if they modernize Macbeth into an ultraviolent video game because nothing is really sacred. Nor should it be. If we do not take our classics off the shelf and use them every so often, they might become forgotten.

Then again, Edgar Allen Poe might be a better fit for a ultraviolent video game. He focused on the dark side of humanity for a long time.
hear, hear! are people ever going to accept video game adaptations, and have South Park and Family Guy and their predecessors taught us nothing? when Michael Jackson died, I had a minor shift-- a very minor shift-- in my opinion of /b/ because of the hilarious things coming out of it and realized it's never too soon
 

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RareDevil said:
Hey, at least they didn't try and do MidSummer Night's Dream.

Altho, an Assassin's creed style Romeo and Juliet would be bitchin' for a small release. Like three hours of game play, you can scale and duel with montegues and capulets. Hit on women from pushes, and kill yourself.

This Genera just gets better and better.

Classic books into new gen games! Oh i can't wait for Canterbury Tales, or a tell tale heart!
press X to sweat and lie to the police, press Y end your pilgrimage all of a sudd
really though a lot of books, and even short stories like The Tell-Tale Heart, could be good for their stealth sections, but wouldn't be so good because of the rest of the story lacks stealth or action
I could see them taking some character-driven stories and turning them into RPGs, although I guess they'd have to come up with alternate endings, and alternate middles for that matter, which some people will hate
 

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That sounds interesting.

I feel sorry for the real Macbeth (He did exist, and he was a much less evil guy than Shakespeare's iteration - For example he killed Duncan in battle, rather than luring him to his castle - and was actually a good King for Scotland). Shakespeare's already made him look a bit of a dick, and to keep gameplay good they'd probably have to add even more murder.