Former Impulse Boss Predicts GameStop Will Beat Steam

Andy Chalk

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Former Impulse Boss Predicts GameStop Will Beat Steam


Stardock CEO and outgoing Steam [http://www.impulsedriven.com/] in the digital distribution game.

Brad Wardell is probably a little biased when it comes to Impulse. He created it, after all, so it only makes sense that he'd predict bigger and better things for it in the future, even when it's out of his hands. But beating the mighty Steam? That's a bold statement indeed.

"I think GameStop's going to beat Steam, and I'll tell you why. One of the things that we do in our surveys is ask, why do you buy from Steam versus Impulse versus whatever. Over 80 percent who respond say 'price'," Wardell told PCWorld [http://www.pcworld.com/article/224518-2/stardock_ceo_explains_gamestop_impulse_buy_steam_rivalry.html]. "Now I can't speak for GameStop, but I know what I would do. Next time you buy something from GameStop for your Xbox 360, I'd give you some token you could use on Impulse toward a deal or sale on some other title. Pretty soon everything on Impulse is cheaper."

Despite the popularity and perceived friendliness of Steamworks, Wardell said Impulse is actually a better platform from a developer perspective as well. "The technology difference between Impulse and Steam is such that any objective developer who looked at the two would overwhelmingly... let's just say the gulf is significant enough that it's not really a 'depends on your point of view' thing," he said.

"I don't want there to be only one [digital distribution platform]," he added. "But frankly I'd be surprised if Steam is still... I mean, you look at the technology Impulse adds and the resources GameStop has - well beyond Valve's - and it's really GameStop's fight to lose."

I'm no fan of Steam but there's just no way to dispute that it's the behemoth in the digital distribution business. It's been around since 2003, it carries a fantastic selection of software, offers stupidly good deals on a regular and it's run by Valve, which I think it's safe to say is probably a little more popular among people inclined to use digital sales platforms than GameStop. Someday, somebody will pull out and pass Steam and maybe it will turn out to be Impulse, but calling the fight GameStop's to lose? That's some serious optimism.


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MetallicaRulez0

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Steam is easier and cheaper, and with GameStop's pricing history I see absolutely no way they could beat Steam. GameStop price gouges everything in their stores, while Steam underprices everything. I just can't see GameStop being willing to drop prices enough to even compete with Steam, much less overtake them.

That and the fact that every gamer in his right mind hates GameStop with a passion. That might hurt sales a bit, particularly with the slightly more savvy PC gaming crowd compared to your average knuckle-dragging caveman that shops at GameStop stores.(That isn't a knock towards console gamers, more a knock towards idiots that shop at GameStop.)
 

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Gamestop has the brick-and-motor business covered through some especially bad bullying practices (like having deals on games with prices so low that it knocks all competitors out). But to try it on the digital distribution platform? Where Steam is ALREADY offering insanely low prices for their games and even offering seasonal deals through the year? That and the fact that some games won't work without Steam is just silly to think Gamestop can compete. Ask Direct2Drive how they've been doing all this time. And what makes Impulse any better, I've never even heard of them until this acquisition came up
 

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Andy Chalk said:
Next time you buy something from GameStop for your Xbox 360, I'd give you some token you could use on Impulse toward a deal or sale on some other title. Pretty soon everything on Impulse is cheaper."
I'm not sure I follow this train of thought... he's trying to compete with Steam by making his games about/almost as cheap as Steam games AFTER buying overpriced GameStop games?

Forgive me if that sounded biased but I don't see how that could beat Steam.

Though on the flip-side, it could just be an Escapist article put here to provoke a reaction rather than give the whole story, I have seen a few of those lately.
 

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RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Gamestop with its over priced crap and retarded used game sales beat STEAM? Lord of all Discounts? Not a chance.

Gamestop was ok but STEAM doesn't only have convenience on them they have a universal network for communities, thousands of games GAMESTOP refuses to look at. Sorry but no it won't.
Basically this.

Most of the people I know who use steam only ever buy pc games, or rarely buy retail. I don't really see that token deal system working as well as they may think. I don't see it as being too appealing. In my case, I buy console games only in rare occasions where it's an exclusive, otherwise I get everything on steam. What are the chances that majority of Steam users are like me?
 

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The problem I see with this statement is that no one outside of america is going to use impulse just because Gamestop owns them because their is no Gamestop so thats a rather large market that there missing out on if they want to beat steam.
 

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bushwhacker2k said:
Andy Chalk said:
Next time you buy something from GameStop for your Xbox 360, I'd give you some token you could use on Impulse toward a deal or sale on some other title. Pretty soon everything on Impulse is cheaper."
I'm not sure I follow this train of thought... he's trying to compete with Steam by making his games about/almost as cheap as Steam games AFTER buying overpriced GameStop games?

Forgive me if that sounded biased but I don't see how that could beat Steam.

Though on the flip-side, it could just be an Escapist article put here to provoke a reaction rather than give the whole story, I have seen a few of those lately.
This.

Maybe this would make a difference if I still bought used games at GameStop, but really, I can get better deals on Amazon Marketplace and Ebay most of the time anyway.

Maybe if Impulse let their users sell their Impulse games used. How the Hell that would even work, I have no idea.
 

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Steam has much more games than Impulse, Indie and AAA. I think if Steam said they were Nazis tomorrow people would still use their services more than Impulse.

Maybe I'm biased but Steam has some awesome sales.
 

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Steam has a LOT more going for it than just price. I just flat out don't believe him.
 

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RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
I have not bought a console game in... ummm... When did Star wars battlefront II go onto the PS2?
That made me laugh, it was 2005 by the way.

Just checked out Impulse for myself, reminds me of Steam, looks a little cluttered, roughly the same prices and they also require that you install their software. Considering steam has such a large following now, I doubt they can really compete. What it might come down to though is the sales, because nobody beats Steam holiday sales.
 

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Maybe it will many years from now, but not anytime soon.

First, on the price point, valve is located in washington, so in the us only residents of that state pay taxes. Since GameSpot has stores in all states once this acquisition is complete all impulse purchases across the us will be charged sales tax. If steam and impulse have the smart sale going on for the same game at the same time people in the us will pay less on steam because tax will have to be applied to all impulse purchases. This also goes for new games where tax will ne applied to impulse and not steam.

Second, among the pc crowd where gamestop is particular hated this is more likely to lose impulse customers than gain them. Then take into account the features impulse lacks that steam has.

If anyone can put impulse into a position its gamestop, but they have a major uphill battle to do so.
 

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I'm sorry mods for not having a post that contributes to the discussion, but:-

Yes, of course, and my arse plays the banjo.
 

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All of my stuff is already on steam is why. Cloud gaming is also a HUGE reason. Gamestop's god awful in comparison, so good luck with that.