We know for a fact that other networks report things while saying explicitly in private that they know they aren't true and don't believe the things they say. Because being wrong is different to lying.
Fox and Dominion settle for $788 million
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Trump ally Devin Nunes can sue NBCUniversal for defamation - judge
A U.S. judge on Monday said Devin Nunes, the former California congressman and an ally of former U.S. President Donald Trump, can sue NBCUniversal for defamation over a comment by Rachel Maddow concerning his relationship with a suspected Russian agent.www.reuters.com
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Nunes has filed multiple lawsuits characterized as Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation ("SLAPP"). Experts have described the lawsuits as "unlikely to succeed" and "virtually free of merit".[139][140]
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A filing to quash a subpoena argued that "no reasonable person would believe that Devin Nunes's cow actually has a Twitter account" as cows "do not have the intelligence, language, or opposable digits needed to operate a Twitter account".[144] In June 2020, a judge ruled that Twitter was immune from Nunes's suit because of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.[145]
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In August 2019, Nunes sued a group of activists who had tried to force Nunes to stop using "farmer" as his occupation on the 2018 ballot.[151] The activists had argued that Nunes's parents had long ago moved the family dairy farm to Iowa and Nunes himself had no apparent farming connection left other than a small investment in a friend's Napa valley winery.[152]
In September 2019, Nunes sued political journalist Ryan Lizza and Hearst Magazines, the publisher of Esquire, alleging that a 2018 Esquire story had damaged his reputation. Lizza wrote that Nunes's family had "secretly" moved its dairy operation from California to Iowa in 2007.
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"[156] United States District Judge C. J. Williams, a Trump appointee, dismissed this suit in its entirety on August 5, 2020.[157] On September 15, 2021, the Eighth Circuit Court upheld the dismissal of some counts but remanded the case back to the district court.[158] A similar lawsuit filed by Nunes's father and brother against the same defendants remains in litigation.[159]
In September 2019, Nunes sued the liberal nonprofit Campaign for Accountability (CfA) and the opposition research firm Fusion GPS. The latter was hired to dig up dirt on Trump at the behest of Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. The research was compiled into the Steele dossier. In 2018 CfA filed three ethics complaints against Nunes. In the lawsuit he alleged that CfA and Fusion GPS had conspired to hinder his investigation into the dossier, citing a $138,684 payment from CfA to Fusion GPS. CfA said it did not hire Fusion GPS to investigate Nunes.[160][161]
On December 4, 2019, Nunes sued CNN for alleged defamation,[126] seeking $435,350,000 in damages for their reporting of Parnas's lawyer's statement.[127][128] The complaint stated, "CNN is the mother of fake news. It is the least trusted name. CNN is eroding the fabric of America, proselytizing, sowing distrust and disharmony. It must be held accountable."[127]
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Federal judge Laura Taylor Swain dismissed the suit on February 19, 2021.[164]
On December 31, 2019, Nunes, through his Charlottesville, Virginia, attorney Steven S. Biss, issued a letter that threatened litigation against Representative Ted Lieu based on alleged damage to Nunes's reputation.[165] Lieu responded, "I welcome any lawsuit from your client and look forward to taking discovery of Congressman Nunes. Or, you can take your letter and shove it."[166][167]
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The Fox team's legal briefs compared Carlson's show to radio talk-show programs hosted by ex-MSNBC and Fox Business star Don Imus, who won a case more than two decades ago because an appellate court ruled that "the complained of statements would not have been taken by reasonable listeners as factual pronouncements but simply as instances in which the defendant radio hosts had expressed their views over the air in the crude and hyperbolic manner that has, over the years, become their verbal stock in trade."
In sum, the Fox News lawyers mocked the legal case made by McDougal's legal team. She alleged "a reasonable viewer of ordinary intelligence listening or watching the show ... would conclude that [she] is a criminal who extorted Trump for money" and that "the statements about [her] were fact."
"Context makes plain," Fox's lawyers wrote, "that the reasonable viewer would do no such thing."
The judge fully agreed.
Yeah, about 787.500.000 less of the same stuff. And that was "just" Fox's last minute panic settlement - if this went to trail they probably could've added an even higher figure to that same stuff.
Eh, I'd say that they have learned. But they've learned they won't face consequences.
MSNBC had the story on Harvey Weinstein years before he was arrested and deliberately quashed the story behind the scenes.
Van Jones on CNN reported about Trump Russia connections publicly while privately referring to is as "a nothingburger".
Well everyone had the story on Harvey Weinstein. It was an open secret. So yeah fuck MSNBC but also Fox news have a fairly rich history of their own sexual harassment. And MSNBC doing that, if true is bad, but it is noy an example of them doing what Fox just settled for. It's just whattaboutism.
Reporting on something you personally consider not a big deal or a "nothing burger" is actually wildly different than insisting a thing that never happened actually happened in order to cause unrest. Again no evidence of other networks ntentionally lying to rile people up.
Trump colluding with Russia to steal the election was a thing that never happened and was intentionally propagated to rile people up. The New York times had their famous staff meeting (because an entirely accurate headline wasn't sufficiently defamatory towards Trump for the staffers) where the guy in charge basically said "you guys did some great work on Trump-Russia, but it didn't work, so we're moving onto race baiting".
But it did happen? Like there was evidence it did happen. People admitted to it. The Mueller report didn't clear Trump; in fact it said there was significant evidence he did collude. Its just as the sitting president, they couldn't indict him.
Fuck sake. I'm not going through trump Russia again... You make shit up dude, you really do.
Said it before, I'll say it again.
Ask a Democrat what they think of diebold, and you'll hear some shit. Ask a republican what they think of dominion, and you'll hear the same. Just never mind it's the same company.
What ultimately came out of this case, was the normalization of shady and insecure voting machines, and opaque tabulation methodology by notoriously mercenary corporations. Much like how Hillary normalized citizens united among democrats and liberals.
Ask a Democrat what they think of diebold, and you'll hear some shit. Ask a republican what they think of dominion, and you'll hear the same. Just never mind it's the same company.
What ultimately came out of this case, was the normalization of shady and insecure voting machines, and opaque tabulation methodology by notoriously mercenary corporations. Much like how Hillary normalized citizens united among democrats and liberals.
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"Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities." - The Mueller Report
Used to.
Diebold was an ATM manufacturer primarily. Until 2009, it had a subsidiary that built and sold (by most accounts pretty insecure and vulnerable) e-voting machines. The major assets of that subsidiary were purchased by Dominion in 2010. The main Diebold company merged with Nixdorf and now still holds a massive chunk of the global ATM market.
I'm honestly not sure whether you are attempting to disagree with me but doing it badly, or helping prove my point.Trump ally Devin Nunes can sue NBCUniversal for defamation - judge
A U.S. judge on Monday said Devin Nunes, the former California congressman and an ally of former U.S. President Donald Trump, can sue NBCUniversal for defamation over a comment by Rachel Maddow concerning his relationship with a suspected Russian agent.
