Fox News Good Reporting?????

[jboking]

I love getting news, however, finding an unbiased source is sadly near impossible. So, you go ahead and take into consideration both views of the same story so you can sort out the facts and the bullshit. Basically, look for the same story(say Obama's k-12 speech) on both Fox and CNN. While CNN will slide it in Obama's favor, saying that those protesting are going overboard, and Fox will side against Obama, saying that he is indoctrinating our kids into socialism. However, if you look at both stories side by side you can find some truth. For example, both stories stated that the Board of Education sent out lesson plans(something that is not within the boards power). That ended up being the real story, not that he was giving a speech or indoctrinating our children, but that the BoE overstepped it's bounds.

 

[IDBash]

Fox is a hell of a lot more reliable than CNN or CBS... don't be ridiculous. They are not even right wing. They are moderates, they just look like hard right because CNN and CBS are SOOOO liberal. If you want right wing go listen to Levin and Limbaugh, that is right wing. There is a very good reason why Fox now owns the ratings... They tell simple fact for the most part outside of the opinion based segments such as Hannity. But segments such as Greta Van Sustern, and the O'Reilly Factor are simply facts and logic, which a lot of people in this illiterate and horridly unintelligent society hate for the simple fact that they do not understand logic and without logic fact doesn?t make sense.

... You are trolling. Right?

I think that's the first time I have ever heard "The O'Reilly Factor" described as facts and logic. I mean, one of the guy's main talking points in an argument is screaming so that the other person can't talk.

I remember tuning in to see one of his talking points being something along the line of "Far Left website 4chan distributing child pornography" and just laughed. The number of things wrong with that statement just blew my mind.

The man is a giant walking satire and a massive hypocrite, he has had segments insulting other media outlets for pestering celebrities, then when celebrities refuse to talk on his show he harasses and insults them. The guy has already gotten sued for essentially stalking a co-worker, and everyone has seen the various clips on the internet where he goes crazy and tells people that because a drunk driver who killed someone was an illegal immigrant, it is suddenly this huge deal. The guy on with him tried to argue that the fact he was an immigrant wasn't the reason he killed the person, but that he was drunk, and that there were thousands of other drunk driving deaths in the U.S. and asked O'Reilly why he didn't report on those as well. O'Reilly responded with his classic line "YOU JUST WANT OPEN BORDER ANARCHY AND YOU DON'T CARE WHO GETS HURT!!!"

A sidenote: I am in various ways both a radical leftist and a radical right-wing supporter. I believe Libertarian is the closest thing that describes me. But that doesn't make me blind to the obvious bias in Faux news, and to a lesser extent the bias in MSNBC, CBS, etc.

However, I must beg to ask this question: If you believe all the news stations in all the world are biased, could it simply be that you are biased, and they are not?

Personally I don't watch tv... I do enjoy listening to Levin and Limbaugh... I love the way they make their callers sound like idiots... truly enjoyable.. but yea all stations are biased.. although it is clear on Fox the difference between fact and opinion as opposed to the others which try and present their opinion as fact... thats all. Their logic is their opinion. I use the web as my main source of fact as cross-refencing is easier.

 

[Low Key]

Fox News has to be the most untrustworthy, biased media I have ever seen.

Two quick questions:

1. What network do you get your news from?

2. How much of Fox News have you actually seen? (Be specific. "I've seen plenty" isn't specific.)

 

[BarkBark]

... You are trolling. Right?

I think that's the first time I have ever heard "The O'Reilly Factor" described as facts and logic. I mean, one of the guy's main talking points in an argument is screaming so that the other person can't talk.

I remember tuning in to see one of his talking points being something along the line of "Far Left website 4chan distributing child pornography" and just laughed. The number of things wrong with that statement just blew my mind.

The man is a giant walking satire and a massive hypocrite, he has had segments insulting other media outlets for pestering celebrities, then when celebrities refuse to talk on his show he harasses and insults them. The guy has already gotten sued for essentially stalking a co-worker, and everyone has seen the various clips on the internet where he goes crazy and tells people that because a drunk driver who killed someone was an illegal immigrant, it is suddenly this huge deal. The guy on with him tried to argue that the fact he was an immigrant wasn't the reason he killed the person, but that he was drunk, and that there were thousands of other drunk driving deaths in the U.S. and asked O'Reilly why he didn't report on those as well. O'Reilly responded with his classic line "YOU JUST WANT OPEN BORDER ANARCHY AND YOU DON'T CARE WHO GETS HURT!!!"

A sidenote: I am in various ways both a radical leftist and a radical right-wing supporter. I believe Libertarian is the closest thing that describes me. But that doesn't make me blind to the obvious bias in Faux news, and to a lesser extent the bias in MSNBC, CBS, etc.

However, I must beg to ask this question: If you believe all the news stations in all the world are biased, could it simply be that you are biased, and they are not?

First off how can you be radically left and right, while also being Libertarian?
Right means less Government control, left means more, and Libertarains mostly
believe in Minarchism [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchism].

And secondly Bill is just one of the many who give their opinion on Fox.
So why do you hate all of fox just because of Bill?

 

[BarkBark]

I actually get Fox, and watch it quite a bit.

But who do you watch the most?

 

[Whoracle]

[...]and I HATE! how he is going around saying sorry to every fucking country for America. It just showing weakness Imo. Did any other country say sorry for when the did something bad? hell no.

Y'know, sometimes I wonder if the prejudice of americans not knowing jack shit about the rest of the world may be true.

For this last sentence, let me tell you, as a german, coming from a country that does nearly nothing else but apologize for something that happened 60 years ago, that I am deeply offended by your lack of knowledge about history and international politics, and that you, sir, are quite literally full of shit.

Thank you.

To the rest of the americans here: This man and others like him is one of the reasons why anti-american sentiment is relatively strong today. At least with those who don't belong to some fundamentalist cadre.

 

[Low Key]

Fox News has to be the most untrustworthy, biased media I have ever seen.

Two quick questions:

1. What network do you get your news from?

2. How much of Fox News have you actually seen? (Be specific. "I've seen plenty" isn't specific.)

I actually get Fox, and watch it quite a bit. Mostly for jollies

I get my news from several sources, it really just depends. Usually CBC or Al Jazeera and sometimes ITV.

That wasn't really specific, but thanks for answering my questions anyways.

 

[Triple AD]

the one second Fox did that Mass Effect 'article'rant
I lost any belief that Fox were any good

 

[yeliw]

First off how can you be radically left and right, while also being Libertarian?
Right means less Government control, left means more, and Libertarains mostly
believe in Minarchism [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchism].

And secondly Bill is just one of the many who give their opinion on Fox.
So why do you hate all of fox just because of Bill?

Well, for one that's a very shallow-minded look at what the Left and Right-wing stand for. Especially in recent years conservatives have been pushing for alot more government control (See Patriot Act, attempt to add an amendment to the constitution banning gay marriage, etc.).

Perhaps the term "Classic Liberal" is a better one. I believe that, personally, as long as your actions are not infringing on another person's liberties, then the government has no say is regulating them (IE the radical stances of legalizing marijuana and 0 gun control, etc. etc.).

However, I do understand that my personal beliefs may not be practical, especially in the realm of economics.

To put it best, you know how there was the whole ruckus over the stimulus plan? With democrats supporting it and Republicans opposing spending any money? I would've preferred the money be used to create more government jobs directly, instead of just sort of throwing it out there.

I agree with the freedom of personal lives, to an extent far beyond most Liberals, but also am familiar with the bureaucracy of our government and see that it needs a serious reworking to be effective.

To respond to your second question: 1. I don't hate all of Fox simply because of O'Reilly
2. I hate them because of their many other pundits (Hannity, who conveniently lost his Liberal counter weight, Glenn Beck who, now that he has jumped ship to fox, has changed many of his opinions, especially on the nations medical system, plus he's just plain crazy) as well as their incompetent anchors, although Bill is something of a figure head for Fox.

I mean, honestly, whenever you hear about this "Big Video Game Controversy" it's usually starting with some Fox news anchor either outright lying or making giant leaps on logic to try to sell a sensationalist news story.

Oh, also the fact that they organized a movement, sponsored it with their station, then referred to it as "Grassroots" may be an indication of their lack of professional standards.

That and the fact that, as soon as administrations changed, they made a U-turn from their oh so common "Questioning the president means you hate the U.S." to "We will question the president like no other."

I don't mind questioning the president, it's healthy and needed, but don't give me that kind of BS.

 

[AkJay]

I don't like FOX, or NBC, i Fark.

 

[murlo360]

Feh, Fox is too right and CNN n NBC are too left. Watch the BBC if you want news...

yeah that's the most correct thing i heard today BBC rocks!!!!!!!!

 

[Silencer13]

However, being a relative news junkie, I do have to admit that Fox News is perhaps the least corrupt, biased, and overall most trustworthy new organization.

thats alittle hard to believe when things like health care stuff comes out. Like when NBC, Daily Show, Colbert Report, CNN, HLN, BBC are all showing a paper that,certain people who oppose the healthcare, are using to disrupt the town hall meetings and are arent even there to listen to the idea. They are being distributed by lobysist who give people like mc cain money to bash healthcare. The Opposers go to a site and download lists of ideas to stop or disrupt the meeting. All over the News, nowhere on fox, suspicious.

or how the obama wants to go after bush and chaney for their involment in the torture at quatanamo. Fox says nothing.

Its not just these examples, but alot of examples where you only see Obama Nazis, obama being compared to hitler only on fox. unless nbc, cnn are doing a story where people/ fox compares obama to hitler/nazis.

They were not that hard on bush. everyone else was.

 

[BarkBark]

Well, for one that's a very shallow-minded look at what the Left and Right-wing stand for.

I respect your opinion, but I would have to object and say I try to my extent to be as open minded and un-bias as possible. I always take into question every stance.

Especially in recent years conservatives have been pushing for alot more government control (See Patriot Act, attempt to add an amendment to the constitution banning gay marriage, etc.)

That was an Republican act, not a right act. Just because I say I am right, that does not mean I am right. It is my actions that define what I am. And the proper definition of right and left was what I explained earlier. You can't just change definitions because people who say they are one thing act the complete opposite.

Perhaps the term "Classic Liberal" is a better one. I believe that, personally, as long as your actions are not infringing on another person's liberties, then the government has no say is regulating them (IE the radical stances of legalizing marijuana and 0 gun control, etc. etc.).

I respect you for the stance you have taken

However, I do understand that my personal beliefs may not be practical, especially in the realm of economics.

There is no harm in trying to follow a belief because it is not practical. Most of my are very impractical, on the account of human nature, but I still follow them.

To put it best, you know how there was the whole ruckus over the stimulus plan? With democrats supporting it and Republicans opposing spending any money? I would've preferred the money be used to create more government jobs directly, instead of just sort of throwing it out there.

I understand your stance, but I for one was never a fan of expansion of government jobs. I believe when we are this much in debt they should stop spending so much money.

I agree with the freedom of personal lives, to an extent far beyond most Liberals, but also am familiar with the bureaucracy of our government and see that it needs a serious reworking to be effective.

I like how you expanded past the classification of just being Liberal.

To respond to your second question: 1. I don't hate all of Fox simply because of O'Reilly
2. I hate them because of their many other pundits (Hannity, who conveniently lost his Liberal counter weight, Glenn Beck who, now that he has jumped ship to fox, has changed many of his opinions, especially on the nations medical system, plus he's just plain crazy) as well as their incompetent anchors, although Bill is something of a figure head for Fox.

I mean, honestly, whenever you hear about this "Big Video Game Controversy" it's usually starting with some Fox news anchor either outright lying or making giant leaps on logic to try to sell a sensationalist news story.

Oh, also the fact that they organized a movement, sponsored it with their station, then referred to it as "Grassroots" may be an indication of their lack of professional standards.

I got irritated with Hannity, but I do enjoy Beck. He changed many opinions because Fox had no opposition on what he was to say. His radio show stayed somewhat constant on his view. I don't know why Bill is so watched, I really don't. I have to agree with you over the Video Game controversy though.

Also they did not organize the movement. They saw a opportunity for mass coverage and jumped on it.

That and the fact that, as soon as administrations changed, they made a U-turn from their oh so common "Questioning the president means you hate the U.S." to "We will question the president like no other."

I don't mind questioning the president, it's healthy and needed, but don't give me that kind of BS.

It is in the constitution to question the Government, not President. Althought the 'question the government stance' was started by Beck.

 

[clicketycrack]

Fox News is billed as an American Conservative news station. Most U.S. Mainstream news agencies lean to the liberal left. Fox News also seems heavily biased towards their views and as such it is more important that they show their view of an event rather than objectively report on it. If you do a Google search you will find plenty of stories about people accusing Fox News of mis-stating to just plain making things up.

Now I am not saying that other news agencies don't do the same, but Fox seems to have more occurances than others.

My favorite was after one of the MTV awards shows where Sasha Baron Cohen was 'dropped' from the ceiling and landed on top of Eminem with his ass in Eminem's face. Fox was saying how tasteless that was and how things like that shouldn't be on TV, going on about how demeaning it was. A few days later Fox has women in scantily clad lingerie playing football on their news, with one of the reporters saying how that was one of the best segments they ever did.

Most conservatives think Fox News is great and wonderful, most liberals think it's garbage.

I was going to write something approximate to this but then you took my idea and expanded into about 3 and 1/2 paragraphs longer.

 

[Oo Rev oO]

Fox News is the only cable news networks that actually shows both sides of the story. Although they are admittedly tilted to the right, each show has equal representation by both the left and the right...as is their policy. Whereas if one were to watch MSNBC that individual (if not in a coma) will notice that MSNBC commentators AND guests have an agenda for the left to succeed. Just look at who owns the company Jeffery Immelt, he is LITERALLY on Obama's payroll as he is an economic advisor (I wouldn't have him manage anything considering that GE stock has fallen over 20% more that the rest of the economy since he became the CEO). Oh and do any of you who watch MSNBC know who Van Jones is? No? I didn't think so. It's not like the Green Jobs Czar matters...even if he is an admitted Communist and believes that humans should be forcibly sterilized in order to control the Earth's population. As far as CNN really they aren't terrible. Reasonably tilted to the left but that's fine...after all discourse is what makes America great.

 

[ReincarnatedFTP]

BBC is moderate left but they report and discuss in a good manner. Al Jazeera is good for Middle East issues too, if you get past the demonization and ZOMG MUSLIMS.
As an American, I use online sites.
CNN reports nothing and never shuts up about Twitter.
MSNBC is moderate left, Rachel Maddow is great, but KO has got a real superiority problem. YOU ARE NOT EDWARD MURROW.
Fox News is pure corporate/far right propaganda.They would have cheered on the Nazi party because they were good patriotic Germans tired of liberals, and they did the patriotic service of killing communists and socialists.

Not to mention Fox News cuts off anyone they don't agree with, and only have weak liberal caricatures (Colmes) or race baiting idiots (Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton) for their opposition speakers.

 

[Outcast107]

[...]and I HATE! how he is going around saying sorry to every fucking country for America. It just showing weakness Imo. Did any other country say sorry for when the did something bad? hell no.

Y'know, sometimes I wonder if the prejudice of Americans not knowing jack shit about the rest of the world may be true.

For this last sentence, let me tell you, as a German, coming from a country that does nearly nothing else but apologize for something that happened 60 years ago, that I am deeply offended by your lack of knowledge about history and international politics, and that you, sir, are quite literally full of shit.

Thank you.

To the rest of the Americans here: This man and others like him is one of the reasons why anti-american sentiment is relatively strong today. At least with those who don't belong to some fundamentalist cadre.

so...you hate me because I just call your country out for doing something terrible? when I know it wasn't everyone fault and it was just a mad power dick of a leader? Really, all I said was their are more people who did terrible things then what we did. yes we attack a country we shouldn't have been in, but to say

1) we were piss that we were attack. I assume any country would be if this happen to them.
2) Bush acted out of to protect the country, since he heard that they COULD BE weapons there. I assume anyone would take the chance and look. Since in number one, we were attack and we wanted to get back at them.
3) We took out a dictator. Why should we be sorry about that? we free people from a evil man who most likely treated them like crap like any other dictator.
4)I stated if any country that did something wrong and said sorry, I said show me. You did not. So why should we say sorry when we just free a part of the middle east from a evil dictator?

 

[Outcast107]

Fox News is the only cable news networks that actually shows both sides of the story. Although they are admittedly tilted to the right, each show has equal representation by both the left and the right...as is their policy. Whereas if one were to watch MSNBC that individual (if not in a coma) will notice that MSNBC commentators AND guests have an agenda for the left to succeed. Just look at who owns the company Jeffery Immelt, he is LITERALLY on Obama's payroll as he is an economic advisor (I wouldn't have him manage anything considering that GE stock has fallen over 20% more that the rest of the economy since he became the CEO). Oh and do any of you who watch MSNBC know who Van Jones is? No? I didn't think so. It's not like the Green Jobs Czar matters...even if he is an admitted Communist and believes that humans should be forcibly sterilized in order to control the Earth's population. As far as CNN really they aren't terrible. Reasonably tilted to the left but that's fine...after all discourse is what makes America great.

QFT. Fox news isn't the best, but they take both sides of the story. Like in the game thing that happen a while back. I didn't see anything wrong with it. It took both sides, one a woman who hates games and didn't have a clue, and the other was the guy who knew what he was talking about.

 

[jimClassic]

Fox Noise is veeery right wing. The reason why they were talking about the commercial is probably because they were trying to endorse it too.
You can't take them very seriously.

 

[aebonhawk]

American news is about ratings. They thrive on unnecessary drama and doom and gloom reporting. I prefer Canadian and British news stations. They actually focus on stories an journalism rather than sensationalizing everything.