Fox News Host Wants to Monitor Your Gaming Habits

Goliath100

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Time to get out the signs with "we want Gun Safety" written on them. US citizens, contact your congressmen about gun safety, and tell them that you want it.

Before someone ask:
1: Gun Safety is a rebranding of "Gun Control". It's the same, only much harder to attack.
2: This is relevant because it will make Fox News really, really mad if it passes.

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1: Fox, your source for them being "addicted" is Fox News.
2: I will blame the shooter for 10 bullets, and the rest on US' stupid gun laws.
 

cerebus23

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Its the same with Tea partiers and liberterians in general they all are for smaller govt and etc unless it is something they do not like like gay marriage, video games, or the few that do not like guns. then they are all for more govt more laws and more hyprocracy.

or the same with gamers that say well guns are bad because people might misuse them, but video games....

would be nice if people stayed true to their core beliefs rather than considering them disposable or changable depending on their opinion of a topic.

basing laws on what a small minority might do is insane, when the vast majority use those things responsibility.
 

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Mr. Omega said:
A nice summary of American conservatism in general right there. "Big Government is bad!... Unless it's for people or things we don't like. Then Big Government is the most awesome thing ever!"
Quoted for truth.

As a general rule, I don't trust anyone who invokes "big government" and similar/related terms. 95% of those who beat the drums of smaller government are hypocrites with no sense of irony; these same people are perfectly fine with shit like the Patriot Act (or at least they were when Bush did it) or gay marriage bans. Things that are government interference writ large.
 

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"While she affirmed that she's not one that wants the government to "monitor everything" she rolled around the idea that perhaps we should start "looking at frequency of [game] purchases" and "how often they're playing."

Read: She's not one that wants the government to monitor THINGS THAT AFFECT HER.
 

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The Gentleman said:
The registration and tracking of firearms sales? Absurd.

The registration and tracking of video games sales? Totally legit.

Only in America.
misterprickly said:
Ya gotta love how they immediately skirt the issue of gun control and jump to the scapegoat of the day.

It's strange in America... It doesn't matter who the victim is, from a school full of children to the President of the United States, It will NEVER squelch America's love affair with the gun.

***ALSO***

A mentally questionable person with access to videogames is NOT a threat.

A mentally questionable person with access to firearms IS a threat.

You are misreading it all. There is active tracking and registration of firearms in US. When you legally buy a gun on US soil, the government knows about it. There is a common ignorance found with most people outside the US and that is that we have unrestricted gun ownership, and you are all completely wrong. You cannot buy a firearm anywhere on US soil without a background check being done, legally speaking. But last time I checked, there are illegal firearms on every single continent, regardless of the laws. He legally owned a gun, but that doesn't automatically make him crazy enough to open fire on a bunch of people. He played violent videogames, that doesn't automatically mean he is going to arm himself and shoot people.

OT:

Both the discussion of blaming guns and the discussion of blaming video games are both red herrings. Neither of these things are to blame for the actions of one mentally disturbed individual. It doesn't make sense to bann either of them outright because it's not logical at all to make everyone who isn't crazy, pay for the crazies. The vast majority of people who play videogames will never commit a crime like this, if any crime at all. The vast majority of the people who own guns out there will never commit murder with them or rob someone at gunpoint. But it's the instant go to for people who are actually quite ignorant about guns, just like videogames are the go to for people who are ignorant about videogames. I'm not going to sit here and argue that him having a gun or access to a firearm wasn't a problem though. Clearly, if had he no access to a firearm then this particular tragedy would not have been so bad. But the discussion should not be reduced to, "It's all videogames for being murder simulators!". Likewise, the argument that if guns weren't so prevalent in the US then this wouldn't have happened, are not benefificial because you are basing any argument off of something that cannot be tested. If your argument is not falsifiable then it's based off of a fallacy. And I would reduce the arguments of Look at countries A,B and C as special pleading simply because those places are not this place with this situation.

Meh, that was fun if not completely pointless. I'm not really looking to get into any arguments with anyone, I'm not even a gun owner. I don't like them, I have seen the damage they can do and I'm not interested in shooting anyone. Likewise, I'm not realistically at any actual risk of getting shot by a crazy, or I should say the risk is so small that I'm not actually concerned. There is only a .00103% (math is not my strong point... so my decimal may not be totally correct) chance of me dying due to some form of firearm. As Kahneman pointed out, the human brain is so ill equipped to handle this percentage, it carries a LOT More decision weight than it should. I just can't stand when arguments are over simplified is all. Also... who can really stand so called "discussions" on Fox News. The people who watch it are already convinced that the gun control situation is perfect (not a point any sane person would take, despite my defense of the whole thing it can clearly use work) and they don't even want to chalk it up to mental health because of Obamacare (which I don't agree with at all because it's fucking me out of my health insurance at the end of this year) and healthcare costs. Too "socialist" for them.
 

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Gizmo1990 said:
I know that it is not perfect but I always get a great feeling of appreciation for the BBC when I read stuff like this. At least in england this carp is confined to newspapers so you know to avoid them, and nobody belives newspapers anyway. I would hate to live in a country where people have to listen to this crap.

My sympathy to all the American esacpists out their.
We don't actually have to listen to this carp. Fox News is just one of several cable news stations; we also have several news programs on "the big 3" broadcast stations. I think a pretty large number of Americans are very much aware that Fox News is the Daily Mail of the US.

Most Americans also have access to the BBC and other foreign news programs.

You shouldn't feel bad for us. If not for Fox News, we wouldn't be as entertained by the Daily Show.

OT: Devoting any time to some random thing that Hasselbeck says is a real waste.
 

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This is one of those situations where it seems the media is desperate to find something or someone to blame other than the fact that the guy who did the shooting had mental issues, snapped, and the end result was a terribly tragedy.

From what I recall from the billions of different reports (someone feel free to correct anything I've got wrong):
1) He was of legal age to buy and play any games he wanted.
2) He *legally* bought the shotgun in a different state.
3) He had a *government issued* permit to carry a concealed weapon.
4) The pistol he used came from somewhere inside the Naval facility. No AR-15 was involved.
5) He was discharged (not in a bad way, a general discharge) from the military after some run-ins regarding conduct. As is SOP when people leave the military, he would keep his 'secret' clearance level for 10 years.
6) Quite a few people seemed well aware of his PTSD, the voices in his head, and his penchant for violence (shooting through neighbor's floors, shooting out the tires on a car, etc.)
7) He *passed* an in-depth background check to get a job at a contractor who worked for the Naval place
8) He had a legit security badge to get into the facility.

What Fox (and many pundits) seem to have difficulty with is that the vast majority of events leading up to this were perfectly legal, including the purchase of the shotgun, and normal. He passed background checks on multiple occasions. The one huge clue that seemed to be overlooked was the PTSD, the anger, and the voices, but when he snapped that could have just as easily resulted in him driving his car off a cliff or jumping out of a window. Sadly, what he did was far more horrific.

In hindsight it's easy to say, "oh well, he shouldn't have been allowed a gun or video games because he was a nutcase," but the reality is that his friends and colleagues would never even dream that he'd do something like this, because you never think that your friends and family are capable of such atrocities. That's human nature.

In an ideal world, he would have been encouraged to see someone about his mental problems, but it didn't happen and, instead, his friends enabled his irrational behavior and addiction by doing things like not kicking him out when it came to dinner time and, instead, feeding him so he could carry on gaming.

The person to blame is dead, so the media want something tangible to blame in his place.
 

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Perhaps we should have an idiot registry, where we monitor the actions of idiots like Hasslebeck and Fox News.
 

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You know, the moment I heard about a shooting, I knew that some really stupid people would jump on the "video games cause violence!!!" wagon again, it happens every time. Some psychopath shoots a bunch of people (why is it shooting BTW? I don't hear the same thing with somebody stabs or blows up a bunch of people) and instead of blaming the actual PERSON THAT DID IT like they should, they blame video games. Then there's studies started that find no correlation between video games and violence, and then it's quiet for a while until the next shooting and the cycle continues.
 

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Well I certainly hopes the government doesn't because all my recent hours playing saints row 4, red faction guerrilla and rome 2 mean I'm planning to take over the world with spartan rebels and command them with superpowers, get ready world nothing can stop me now!

In real world news faux has said something to grab attention and sound like dumbasses as always.
 

Tanis

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Is anyone REALLY surprised at this point?

Fox News would rather have a dead 5 year old, with a load gun in hand.

Than a living 5 year old, with a full charged DS in hand.
 

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DiamanteGeeza said:
6) Quite a few people seemed well aware of his PTSD, the voices in his head, and his penchant for violence (shooting through neighbor's floors, shooting out the tires on a car, etc.)
This can't be highlighted enough.

Sounds like a terrible case of neglect from somebody, on either a small or large scale.
 

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StewShearer said:
Fox News Host Wants to Monitor Your Gaming Habits

Fox & Friends host Elizabeth Hasselbeck
Aaaand that was enough for me. Every time I see a quote of hers the quoter has to insist she's not on the parody side of Poe's Law.

Anyone whose broadcasting history highlights are The View and Fox News isn't worth my time.
 

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Idiots known for saying stupid attention-grabbing things say stupid attention-grabbing thing, get attention.

More at 11.

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Seriously, do we really need these articles? Can't you just post a new article once a week (twice if a big shooting/bombing took place within the past 14 days) entitled 'Fox News Anchor says inflammatory thing about gaming', filled with pointless filler text. Then all of us can post our own pointless, generic, anti Fox News comment. At least that'd save some time and be funny in a kind of ironic sort of way.

Or hell, commenters, try writing your response without reading the article, see if it needs changing after reading, mine didn't.
 

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Something else that's sad is knowing there are a great many people that listen to such broadcast with a reverence usually retricted for religion. Shaking their heads knowingly in a "that's why I watch Fox News; they share the exact same view that I do thereby affirming me that my convictions are correct."

I do think I "get it." It's scary to think of people as invisible ticking time bombs walking around that will detonate unpredictbly. We like a sense of being able to control the chaos around us. It's soothing to think "yeah...if we were to monitor video games, THEN we'd be able to stop these bastards," as opposed to "we're at the complete mercy of the whim of mad men."

I prefer "Be sober; be vigilant because your adversary the Devil walketh about seeking whom he may devour."
- Goat from 2005s Doom Movie.
 

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"I think something that happens often in a situation as tragic as this is that we start to spread blame where it possibly doesn't belong. I think we all know where the blame truly belongs and that would be right in Alexis' hands."

I totally agree Fox & Friends Host Elizabeth Hasselbeck.

Every time I see Fox come up with some bs link between Vidja and violence I am further convinced of Total Biscuits' assertion that their parent company Viacom it trying to discredit games due to the threat they pose the rest of the entertainment industry.

 

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Calm down Fox. I know the NRA pays you to scapegoat gaming, but you need to be a bit less forceful.

"We should track gaming purchases, to see who is susceptible to playing videogames," You are starting to forget that you are trying to make videogames look like the cause for gun violence, rather than guns beings so abundant you literally poison your own ground water with lead (thus the lower IQ in most of the country) and that videogames are not supposed to be the problem in themselves.

Back up a bit, take a deep breath and you can go on pandering to the right wingers and the 65+ pensioners that watch your show.