Fox News "Probably" Helped Bulletstorm Sales

jakefongloo

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Baresark said:
What Fox News said has already received far too much attention. I love how everyone thinks only Fox makes up news. Grow up. I hate fox, but MSNBC and CNN and all the others are just as guilty of sensationalizing the smallest item. The only difference here is they said something that a bunch of over sensitive gamers didn't like. Cry some more, please, that fixes all the problems.
Cry some more please =P
 

Something Amyss

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Baresark said:
What Fox News said has already received far too much attention. I love how everyone thinks only Fox makes up news. Grow up. I hate fox, but MSNBC and CNN and all the others are just as guilty of sensationalizing the smallest item.
False equivalency is not a "grown up" response. It's merely substituting one lie for another.

Can you, for example, point to any actual equivalent to the "Bulletstorm" controversy on CNN and MSNBC? Or are you merely parroting a blanket statement that has become every bit as much a meme as "successful troll is successful" or "I c wot u did thar?"
 

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Would be kinda douchy or maybe Fox News deserves it....Capps should send a note to Fox News saying: "Thank you." And maybe elaborate how their "news" made Bulletstorm sell more. :3
 

Something Amyss

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By the way, if Fox supports the "violent games cause rape" deal, and having edited the original speaker's words, they probably do...

Games cause rape. Fox promotes game. Game sells better because of Fox.

Shame on you, Fox News, for your blatant promotion of rape!
 

olfelix

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I preordered Bulletstorm and I've yet to receive my NRA (National Rapist Association) membership card. I am disappoint.
 
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I'm actually glad Faux News did that report (I don't agree with it in any way and I still think they're complete wankers) and boosted sales, because this game needs to be played! I'm cereal, go out and fuckin' buy this game if you haven't already. Seriously, do it!
 

ace_of_something

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"Any publicity is good publicity" as they say.

Hasn't this happened pretty much every time a game has a big shitstorm around it?
 

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I find it amusing that a game whose marketing campaign referred to the prospective consumer as "dick-tits" worries about negative media exposure.

But eh, it's true that Fox was in the wrong here. As always.
 

Andy Chalk

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Including Fox's, right?
Sure. But when a news outlet spouts lies, and particularly when that lying becomes a pattern of behaviour, it can't squeal too loudly when it gets called for it.
 

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Andy Chalk said:
But in spite of all the side-effect upsides, Capps was less enthusiastic about the impact of such reports on the game industry as a whole. "I think it's terrible," he added. "There are people who really respect Fox News' opinions and look at that and are [convinced that video games are bad]."
Thankfully most of those people are over 45 and their influence diminishes every year. I stopped getting my news from television a few years ago, I'm just so sick of the shallow, crappy reporting. And that was CNN.
 

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Lol i've seen at least five seperate articles on FOX's bulletstorm "controversy" (i mean it was pretty weak sauce compared to some other controversies) and they're all calling them out on this... Get owned FOX.

Dumbasses like them make the BBC look like reporter GODS!
 

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DTWolfwood said:
facts have never been important when it comes to fox news :p

Out of curiosity, did rape cases suddenly jump up after Bulletstorm was released? XD
I don't know, but I did threaten to smash someone's ball sack with a hammer today.
 

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Roadface said:
ssgt splatter said:
Stuff like this will always boost sales of a game in the long run...unless it's like the infamous "hot coffee" mod from GTA San Andreas.
Lol just saw that mod at work. What a dumb move putting that into a game.
Which is exactly why they took it out, funnily enough.
 

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HankMan said:
Don't worry Capps, the type of people who respect Fox News aren't the types who would ever play video games to begin with. I would get into specifics about how they DO spend their time but I don't want to be put on probation right now.
They might be the type who says "OH NOES! VIDYA GAMEZ TURN LITTLE TIMMY INTO A RAPIST!?" and form a pesky protest group or spread the rumors to people who don't watch Fox news but don't pay attention to the games industry. Word of mouth is a powerful thing, even when spread by idiots.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
False equivalency is not a "grown up" response. It's merely substituting one lie for another.

Can you, for example, point to any actual equivalent to the "Bulletstorm" controversy on CNN and MSNBC? Or are you merely parroting a blanket statement that has become every bit as much a meme as "successful troll is successful" or "I c wot u did thar?"
Actually, as a broad statement, I meant to point out that this "controversy" matters so little that it means nothing at all. Also, that gamers and organizations that bothered to mention this more than once in passing belittle themselves. And no, CNN and MSNBC don't have a Bulletstorm "equivalent", because quite frankly, the debate surrounding what a bunch of socially inept human beings think about violent video games has passed into insignificance in the real world. As a real world example of lies MSNBC and CNN helped perpetuate, as well as Fox news, Julian Assange. They literally couldn't mention him without calling him a wanted sex offender. Despite what he did in another country, he wouldn't be considered a sex offender or rapist in America, but that didn't stop them slanting the story that way. As if that had anything to do with the reason the US government was looking for him. Only to vilify the man so people wouldn't dare have any praise to say about the man. Also, they were top offenders when mentioning the riots in Egypt and in the same sentence indicating that it was orchestrated by the "terrorist" group, the Islamic Brotherhood. Clearly with the intention of turning Americans against the plight of the Egyptian people, as if they wanted America involved at all. Don't forget the praise of Libya 5 years ago, to them being a horrible dictatorship today, despite them having been a dictatorship the whole time. I could go on and on, but I won't. I only want to say, peace brother. I was tired when I wrote that post. :}

PS. Word of the month is meme, because it shows up in every other post. Also, I don't believe those statements you mentioned are actually memes. I didn't realize that me questioning the news brought to my attention by organizations with a vested interest me believing them over another source that may say otherwise, was a meme. Though, I feel that I should mention in the interest of truth that I didn't repeat what someone else told me, but what I experienced first hand. I have seen stories slanted to change the perception of the viewer, as I have pointed out. Fox, MSNBC, CNN, all the major organizations have done it.

jakefongloo said:
Cry some more please =P
Haha, I literally knew as soon as I put that in there, I would get blowback. It's all good though. Admittedly, I was really tired when I wrote that post. You reap what you sow, and this is proof. :p
 

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Baresark said:
And no, CNN and MSNBC don't have a Bulletstorm "equivalent", because quite frankly, the debate surrounding what a bunch of socially inept human beings think about violent video games has passed into insignificance in the real world.
And yet, Fox did it. At least try and keep your arguments consistent with one another. Thanks for demonstrating the "they're just as bad!" Meme.

Meanwhile, deception in calling Assange a sex offender? Puh-lease. since the allegations were sexual assault, the worst you can accuse any news network of in this case is "Did not do the research." And that's still stretching. Now, Maybe some or all of the networks went further, but that's just grasping at straws to justify your meme recital.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Baresark said:
And no, CNN and MSNBC don't have a Bulletstorm "equivalent", because quite frankly, the debate surrounding what a bunch of socially inept human beings think about violent video games has passed into insignificance in the real world.
And yet, Fox did it. At least try and keep your arguments consistent with one another. Thanks for demonstrating the "they're just as bad!" Meme.

Meanwhile, deception in calling Assange a sex offender? Puh-lease. since the allegations were sexual assault, the worst you can accuse any news network of in this case is "Did not do the research." And that's still stretching. Now, Maybe some or all of the networks went further, but that's just grasping at straws to justify your meme recital.
Haha, no matter how much you throw the word meme in here, it doesn't really matter. Your doing the exact same thing. I have simply made the point that the other networks are just as bad. I know that is a "meme"..... oooh, that was kind fun, meme meme meme meme, haha. Interestingly enough, anything that a group of people believes is a meme, it's a cultural unit, usually spread through repetition and without any sort of evidence. I don't take take any information without a body of evidence. I noted some points that are based off of fact. The part of the Julian Assange bit, the thing that ruins it is the spin. Why is it not good enough that the US Government is seeking him out for such and such a reason. Simply put, that isn't good enough. He has to be a villain, so the news did it's part by spinning the story. Just like Fox new spun the "research" that shows that violent video games lead to an increase in sexual crimes. YAY MEME!!!!
 

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I don't care about Fox News any more. Except for the few media outlets that are more or less unbiased, the rest all have liberal biases, or are Fox News. Anyone who takes Fox News' reports for true doesn't want to hear the other side.
 

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lacktheknack said:
Andy Chalk said:
"What was most exciting about it for me [was the reaction from the media in the industry defending us]. Every journalist said this Fox report is junk... It's wonderful to see a media that's defending free speech."
Including Fox's, right?
Disagreeing with them and calling their report bunk is not in any way reducing their freedom of speech, but trying to get bulletstorm banned/censored IS an attack on free speech.