Thats a shame, could have seen Captain America flying into Pakistan to knock out Bin Laden with his shield. A modern take on the comic in which he knocked out Hitler. lol.
PunkRex said:Yeah, because what I want in a Captain America film is him breaking into random civilian houses and fucking up farmers 'Taken' style so he can find leads on TUURREREST hideouts.
This honestly sounds like the worst freaking idea Marvel could do... although I actually kind of liked 'The Spirit'.
Sigfodr said:This would be considered tame in comparison:
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I truly, TRULY despise this attitude that France is some how cowardly for surrendering, it's not like they had a choice and their civilians still fought back as best they could. Especially coming from American patriots, took you guys a good few years to even get involved, also, wasn't there a more recent war where you guys surrendered. I don't want to step on the toes of any soldiers, those guys/gals have enough to deal with but this anti-french attitude has always pissed me off...
AND I'M ENGLISH![/quote]
I agree with the whole "knock off the French-bashing." As an American, I keep in mind that their involvement in the Revolution is a major reason my country even exists. If anything, shouldn't the US helping to liberate France in WWII sort of count as returning a favor?
That said, I actually find that last panel kind've hilarious just in the coupling of the gritty setting with such a stupid line.
my bet is "I AM 'MURICA!"Hyperstorm said:Close. My bet is on "I AM GODDAMN AMERICA!"croc3629 said:Just picture it:
"I'M THE GODDAMN CAPTAIN!"
vid87 said:PunkRex said:Yeah, because what I want in a Captain America film is him breaking into random civilian houses and fucking up farmers 'Taken' style so he can find leads on TUURREREST hideouts.
This honestly sounds like the worst freaking idea Marvel could do... although I actually kind of liked 'The Spirit'.
Sigfodr said:This would be considered tame in comparison:
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I truly, TRULY despise this attitude that France is some how cowardly for surrendering, it's not like they had a choice and their civilians still fought back as best they could. Especially coming from American patriots, took you guys a good few years to even get involved, also, wasn't there a more recent war where you guys surrendered. I don't want to step on the toes of any soldiers, those guys/gals have enough to deal with but this anti-french attitude has always pissed me off...
AND I'M ENGLISH![/quote]
I agree with the whole "knock off the French-bashing." As an American, I keep in mind that their involvement in the Revolution is a major reason my country even exists. If anything, shouldn't the US helping to liberate France in WWII sort of count as returning a favor?
That said, I actually find that last panel kind've hilarious just in the coupling of the gritty setting with such a stupid line.[/quote]
Aye, I never understood where the French bashing came from for some Americans, especially considering their precious Statue of Liberty was constructed by the French as a result of (like you say) the American revolution.
I mean the French and the English rib each other because we spent many years fighting each other. Even then, we don't say anything about them being /cowards/, just garlic munching bastards.
I'll just steal this image from the Facebook comments to show how Cap /should/ be written.
[img]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr8q9rgr5F1qbatka.jpg
Sorry, you're calling him cripplingly incompetent at History for...what exactly? What's your point?Jim_Callahan said:I guess it is fairly American to be against a stereotype because you're cripplingly incompetent at history.vid87 said:As an American, I keep in mind that their involvement in the Revolution is a major reason my country even exists.
The US was aided in its revolution by the French Monarchy, that was quite literally five countries ago, historically. The current nation referred to as 'France' is usually called 'the Fifth republic' for a reason, and it's not that they're the same country that shared the geographic location in the 1770s. The handoffs between the imperial and republic nations weren't exactly peaceful affairs focused on maintaining cultural continuity, either.
Even the most forgiving estimates of what constitutes being the "same country" would start France in the 1870s at best (the last time the transition _officially_ consisted of a mob running around killing everyone and starting from scratch).
(All this aside, it's fairly appropriate for Captain America to pull that joke out of his hat because his ostensible generation was the one that started the meme/joke during WW2.)
You said it yourself, "The US was aided in it's revolution by the French Monarchy". He never mentioned anything to do with French Political upheaval or French history, just that the French helped America during the American Revolution, which they did. The people in whatever shape, politically or geographically it is now were and still are French. It was was still France in the 1770s, regardless of how it was run, and the people living there were French. Ergo it is not "cripplingly incompetent" to refer to the people there in the 1770s as French.
Also, I've NEVER heard France referred to as the Fith Republic before now. Ever. I know that it is the case now, but noone I know has ever heard France called the Fith Republic.
Actually that's a point, it's the FITH repbulic of France.
I too love his run on Daredevil, but sadly if he were writing it today Nuke would've probably been a hero rather than a tragic villain.Gorfias said:His Daredevil run was magic and renewed my love of comic books for a decade. One issue has Captain America in it. It is told from Matt Murdock's perspective. He can tell someone outside his building wants to speak to him in private. He exits and chases someone so fast and graceful, he can't keep up. He hears a window creak under the weigh of the person swinging from it (cap) and thinks the person must weigh at least 300 lbs. Just really cool. And his cap is really cool.Lieju said:Yes. It would be such a disaster I almost want to see it, but no.Jinjer said:No, no, nonononono NOPE. Horrible, horrible idea. I didn't think it could get worse after Remender's hatchetjob of the character but this would probably even top that. Frank Miller is the last person I want to see writing Cap, it'd be a disaster of epic proportions
I do like Dark Knight Rises, but I can't think of anything else of his 'good stuff' I've read.
Well, Sin City maybe. It wasn't really for me though, so I'm not sure how good it was since I quickly lost interest in it.
*broadly insults all Americans, calling them "incompetent at history"Jim_Callahan said:I guess it is fairly American to be against a stereotype because you're cripplingly incompetent at history.vid87 said:As an American, I keep in mind that their involvement in the Revolution is a major reason my country even exists.
The US was aided in its revolution by the French Monarchy, that was quite literally five countries ago, historically. The current nation referred to as 'France' is usually called 'the Fifth republic' for a reason, and it's not that they're the same country that shared the geographic location in the 1770s. The handoffs between the imperial and republic nations weren't exactly peaceful affairs focused on maintaining cultural continuity, either.
Even the most forgiving estimates of what constitutes being the "same country" would start France in the 1870s at best (the last time the transition _officially_ consisted of a mob running around killing everyone and starting from scratch).
(All this aside, it's fairly appropriate for Captain America to pull that joke out of his hat because his ostensible generation was the one that started the meme/joke during WW2.)
NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE.MovieBob said:"features virtues that my country has either lost or misplaced for a very long time," and that "I remember telling people at Marvel, just a few days after 9/11, that I hoped they realized what they had there, because Captain America's reaction to 9/11 would have been pretty direct."
Considering my first impression of him was "What, are you an idiot? Are you RETARDED or something? I'm the GODDAMNED BATMAN", no, no you are not.JoshuaMadoc said:Am I seriously the only one here that's always seen Frank Miller as nothing but a complete idiot since the first time I heard about him?
Happily, he has made other appearances and is still a tragic villain. I think the best kind of villains are the ones that think they are right.Anti-Robot Man said:I too love his run on Daredevil, but sadly if he were writing it today Nuke would've probably been a hero rather than a tragic villain.
I enjoyed the Dark Knight Returns, but it was such a pale shadow of this 1980s greatness. I look forward to him proving us wrong and helping make Sin City 2 awesome.Anyway, there's no way that Disney-owned Marvel is going to let him anywhere near any of their movie franchised characters, he's toxic at this point (and has diminished as an artist/storyteller). There's nothing stopping him making an ersatz Cap and doing his own thing though, but he seems to really crave that iconography for his own political reasons.
Once upon a time Frank Miller was a good comic writer. The Dark Knight Returns, Batman: Year One, and his run on Daredevil were the highlights of his career. But shortly after working on Sin City he began to go eight-ways bananas, producing such crap as The Dark Knight Strikes Again, Holy Terror, and All Star Batman and Robin.Raika said:Bob, that implies that Frank Miller was ever any good at making comics.MovieBob said:not being good at making comics anymore. [http://atopthefourthwall.com/all-star-batman-and-robin-6/]
Anyway, on to the topic at hand. Should we give a character who specializes in the examination of patriotism and morality to the industry's most detestable human being, a card-carrying misogynistic psychopath who accomplishes the impossible by having a more pronounced rape fetish than Alan Moore does, who has never written anything worth reading, and who poisoned superhero comics beyond repair in the mid-eighties by ushering in the Dark Age?
What do you think, Darth Vader?