Entering an online game when you know your internet is shoddy is an asshole thing to do. Internet issues may be out of your hands, but if you enter a match knowing you'll lag and likely disconnect, you've knowingly inflicted other people with your connection issues. It's inconsiderate and outright selfish. It's like farting in an elevator when riding with other people. It's not like you're not allowed to do it, but it's fucking rude.DeepComet5581 said:
Overwatch is a 6v6 game, and losing a player is felt far more in this environment than something like TF2 where people are rotated in and out all the time, but the player numbers usually stay even at around 10-12 per team. Team Fortress 2 auto-balances when player numbers shift too much in one team's favor. You can't auto-balance in Overwatch because of the player numbers and how closely you rely on your teammates.fisheries said:
OK, how do you distinguish between legit problems and pluggers, then?DeepComet5581 said:
You get dropped by one or two games, then maybe you should stop playing until network traffic improves. Besides, even then you won't get penalised. I'm pretty sure it takes more than 2 games to get into the XP cap. And even then it's not going to be sudden out-of-nowhere penalty - you are going to be warned. Even. Then. All it takes is few good matches and you'd be in the clear.DeepComet5581 said:
Problem not solved. No support isn't the only issue with the set up I mentioned. Even if I went support I'm still on an attacking team with 2-3 Widowmakers and a Bastion. And before anyone says it's unlikely to get put in games with a set up like that, it's happened to me multiple times.Balimaar said:
The reasoning is that you leaving (for whatever reason) makes the game experience worse for the five others that are left behind, as well as anyone unfortunate enough to jump into your slot after the enemy team has enjoyed your absence. Your enjoyment must be weighed against the common enjoyment in any multiplayer game, and it sounds like you have a mindset more fitting for single-player or non-team-based multiplayer games, where your own enjoyment can be more separated from the experience of the other players.DeadProxy said:
The thing is, imagine almost any other team activity in your life. People aren't just allowed to stop playing basketball mid match because they aren't having fun. When I played Soccer (which I was horrendously bad at), I didn't just quit because I wasn't having fun in the middle of a match. If I'm not enjoying a meeting at work, I can't just walk out. In the end, it's only 10-20 minutes of your time and it's not everyone else's fault you aren't having fun. I'm firmly in the camp where you just shouldn't play the game at all. Most team MP games have this same element, you can easily get put onto a team full of people who don't know how to play. But they are learning, and you can still enjoy yourself and use that time to get better.DeadProxy said:
Well, for one, if it really did happen accidentally, it will naturally only happen once and you'll be fine. They're doing this to combat people trying to escape this penalty by going down to the Notification Area in Windows and disconnecting from their router. XPDeepComet5581 said:
literally impossible. and i do use the word correctly. The quitters would just unplug the ethernet cable for a few seconds instead of quiting to game the system. I dont think server kicking you out for ping counts as you quitting. And if you have internet bad enough for server to kick you constantly then perhaps you shouldnt play that day, because you are ruining the game for everyone, not just you.DeepComet5581 said:
but from the info we got if you quit before you select the character it doesnt count so you should be good?gact said:
If you only care about your fun and not other players fun then i suggest you play singleplayer games where you do not affect others by your choices.DeadProxy said:
Yep, it's much like the assholes in MMOs who queue for dungeons and then quit because somebody's Attack Power or Gearscore or whatever they're being elitist about in your particular MMO isn't up to their arbitrary standards.Baresark said:
A server can't detect that unless you go through the menu and close the game. If I do it by pushing Reset on my PC, pulling out the ethernet cable in my router or killing overwatch.exe, the game does not get any feedback and just loses connection. All those actions look the same to a server, since all it knows is that your traffic is not coming in anymore, not why. (unless you use the Exit button, since you are then commanding the server to stop sending you traffic)DeepComet5581 said:
Because 1-2 mins is sometimes 10-20% of a single game. Either hold it for 5 mins or go before. Why you would need Netflix during a videogame is beyond me.DudeistBelieve said:
The games last 10mins tops. Most end in less. You would assess the fun of the game only after a few mins, so you'd have to sit out a max of what, 5mins? For which you are still compensated with drops/EXP. I am glad you won't because leavers aren't what this game needs.DeadProxy said: