FU White guilt

[Serioli]

Short version:
African-carribean guy attacks me. I (a white guy if you hadn't guessed) feel guilty telling the police it was a black guy that attacked me.
WHAT THE FUCK BRAIN?

Long version:
I'm walking along the street, black guy tells me to give him money. Potential danger sensor doesn't kick in and I say 'Do I look like I've got any money (mate?)'. Without further comment/threat/insult or whatever guy lashes at my face, cutting it and runs off. (Very shallow, I've had shaving cuts that have bled for longer. Doc's say it's unlikely it will scar and if so will be practically invisible). Phone police, explain to them, get checked out by doc's, given antibiotics, yadda yadda.

When explaining to the police I found myself stumbling whenever the description turned to race and being overly self censoring (E.g. I never used the word 'black' myself, always african carribean. Pausing before saying yes when the police themselves asked 'You mean black?' and so on)

WHAT THE FUCK BRAIN?

Have any escapists, of whatever ethnicity, found themselves stumbling over race/religion/political/whatever issues when it is completely unjustified to do so?

 

[PurpleSky]

I guess,we have an equivalents for the stereotypical "black criminals" here,and I was approached like this before,but never been atacked (succesfully thank god).

I can't put myself in your shoes though.

 

[^=ash=^]

"It's pollitical correctness gone mad!"

But yeah, I understand that it just feels awqward (spelling? it doesn't look right ^^)to say something like that, granted I've never been slashed across the face and have to give a police statement, but i assume this feeling can apply to these kind of situations.

 

[skitzo van]

No I can't say I have, because when someone asks me for money they play the race card. That is one of the stupidest arguments in history. What would a white supremicist gain from not giving people money. Also, a few of the Mexican kids feel its perfectly fine they can use the word "******", they've used it on me before. I'm white. As hell. Another thing, those people with their heads shoved so far up their asses that they think that "Hey your white, you can't use the "N" word", Fuck you its a goddamned WORD I don't wanna use it, but the constitution allows me to. Plus the assholes who say its politically incorrect to call someone "black"(yes I've been called racist for saying black) are just increasing the racial tension between the races of people, I and mean what the fuck? I can't call someone black? That's his nationality! HE didn't come from Africa!

Yeah, so when someone of another nationality gets me in trouble, I have no problem reporting them. /rant

 

[Serioli]

"It's pollitical correctness gone mad!"

Haha, funny how many people (and media institutions) would take that in all seriousness. Doubtless before an 'I'm not racist but....' comment/letter

 

[PurpleSky]

No I can't say I have, because when someone asks me for money they play the race card. That is one of the stupidest arguments in history. What would a white supremicist gain from not giving people money. Also, a few of the Mexican kids feel its perfectly fine they can use the word "******", they've used it on me before. I'm white. As hell. Another thing, those people with their heads shoved so far up their asses that they think that "Hey your white, you can't use the "N" word", Fuck you its a goddamned WORD I don't wanna use it, but the constitution allows me to. Plus the assholes who say its politically incorrect to call someone "black"(yes I've been called racist for saying black) are just increasing the racial tension between the races of people, I and mean what the fuck? I can't call someone black? That's his nationality! HE didn't come from Africa!

Yeah, so when someone of another nationality gets me in trouble, I have no problem reporting them. /rant

Well I don't know about YOUR constitution-not that I disagree,but not all of us are American-....

 

[child of lileth]

I've never had a situation of white guilt.

But I've had reverse discrimination played against me at jobs before. Someone sexually harassed me multiple times a day for a few months, but he's black, and I'm white, so there's nothing that can be done about it, apparently. At least, according to the supervisors, my union representative, and the director of the hospital I was working at.

 

[andreas3K]

I'm white and I would have said to the cops that a crazy ****** cut me in the face.
I'm no racist, though, because I don't care about race.

 

[steevee]

Nope, I don't see why anyone would have it :L

 

[Rakkana]

Nothing wrong with describing people. It's like saying they have blond hair.

You go to far when you discriminate them because of it.

 

[Johnnyallstar]

See, now this is where political correctness will get you nothing. You censored yourself against incriminating a villain because you were worried about saying something that might be considered offensive by somebody somewhere.

I never get white guilt (or any kind of irrational guilt) like that because no matter what I say, somebody, somehow, somewhere, sometime is going to be offended by anything I say. Political correctness is the bane of passionate discussion.

The answer you have to ask yourself is: What good does being politically correct do for me? If the answer is anything except "nothing" you're giving it too much credit. Sure you may seem more "civil" or whatnot, but it also means that you're probably afraid to call a spade a spade.

 

[yayforgiveaway]

Only around 12% US residents are black. But they are responsible for more than 50% of crimes. So I just don't get this guilt in saying 'black guy did it'

 

[Serioli]

Nope, I don't see why anyone would have it :L

This a million times over, I hate the race card, I disagree with affirmative action, one of the first statements I'll use in race/sexism etc discussions is 'people are people, they are defined by their actions'. My logical mind hates it completely.

BUT my traitorous brain still wigged out on me when giving an official statement.

 

[Ultrajoe]

The part of your brain that produced that feeling was just acting from your knowledge that his skin didn't affect his actions, and the understanding that such assumptions are wrong to make. The fact that being mugged isn't an everyday situation means your brain was trying to rationalize its usual procedures in scrubbing any racial consideration from your brain.

So yeah, you were just trying to be politically conscious, which is actually a good thing, but the parts of your brain that monitor such issues can't just shut off. Don't feel bad about it, it isn't white guilt at all, brains just work in certain ways and some wires crossed in its workings. While most people tend to lean back in a chair, pipe in hand, and declare political correctness to be the fall of everything, the kind of idea-policing your mind pulled on you is actually a damn fine thing to have... most of the time.

You just didn't want to imply that the cause of the attack was pigmentation, nothing wrong with that.

Don't sweat it, happens to a lot of people in your situation I would think.

 

[Sjakie]

The second a minority plays the minority card (being it racial or religious) with me they loose all basic respect from me and i will stomp on it if i want too. I don't let stuff like that bother me or influence me and even in arguements and fights i have had i never actually had to: it's always: your a ****/************ or scum. It'never: black ************, ****** or any racial/religous slur (well, unless you count zealot, but i never got into a fight with religous people)
Hey im not the one who brought it up and if he/she inflicts the stigma of being racist/whatever on me i will fight it with your 'stigma' of you being a minority even though i never had to or did when i lost my emotional control!
I never have any problem describing somebody by their outward appearance if they are black or any other color since that's just the color of their skin and nothing more. If you do make that distinct difference, to me that means you actually DO make a difference between your race and the rest which i find more racist then the other way around.

 

[SmartIdiot]

I'm through with all this PC bullshit. If I need to describe what someone looks like down to their skin colour then why should it be a problem to say, black guy, black girl, black dude, black friend etc. It's not racist. Think about it, those of us who are 'white' should we feel guilty about ourselves or make others with a different skin pigmentation feel guilty because we're not actually white, more of a light peachy or milky colour depending on your complexion/red blood cell count?

To be perfectly honest using terms like African-American, African-Carribean, African-British etc. is worse as it's a now dated assumption that all black people hail from Africa. You know, we live in a multi-cultural society now, it is possible to have people of different ethnic or racial origins starting a family in another country or who have even been there for a few generations.

So yeah, next time say to the cops "This black dude slashed my face".

 

[DominoRBG]

Ok, I'm a black guy and I think white guilt is retarded. There's nothing to feel sorry or guilty about, not anymore.

 

[Keava]

Wouldnt even think about problem o.o I mean yeah, i can see how black can be offensive when used as noun to adress someone as such, but when you are describing a person, especially at police, its has nothing to do with politcal correctness or lack of it.

Seems like you sub conciousness feels the pressure of the politcal correctness tho, but i live in a funny country where we dont really have such issues yet <.<

 

[Jamash]

No, I always call a spade a spade, meaning I'm quite blunt and honest about things like that and don't allow myself feel unnecessarily guilty because of my or other's skin colour.

How are we ever going to achieve equality if we're forever mincing our words and stumbling over the simplest descriptions, just because someone happens to have different levels of melanin in their body?

 

[samstewiefisher]

In the uk its fine to say black. Its descriptive, not derogatory.