Full Metal Genesis

[Jackel86]

I've been wanting to see Neon genesis since everyone says that it is very good. However, from what I have seen of it is that it show cases the very worst stereo types of anime, (Weak main character, excessive fan service, all female characters clinging to the protagonist like flies around a turd, oh and that stupid thing anime does where the main character slips and land body first on a female touching her breasts looking embarrassed)

If you don't like anime stereotypes, you will HATE Evangelion. I know I did. Stick with Cowboy Bebop, Berserk, Full Metal Alchemist (the other series in this comic, if you are unaware), and other stuff I'd call "anime for people who hate anime".

 

[Jackel86]

Wesley Snips

Neon Genesis was just created to be therapy for Hedaki Anno. He was struggling with depression when he wrote that piece of shit series.

It's overrated to fuck.

I've not watched it, though I don't intend to if public opinion is so divided, since that tends to mean it is indeed overrated.

A depressed writer is no excuse though. Tuomas Holopainen wrote the ablum "Dark Passion Play" while depressed and that was arguably the best album he's ever written! (it's symphonic metal. Give it a listen if you don't actively dislike that srot of thing, since like all music it's subjective)

I'm glad you put "arguably" in there, because I think you will have a hard time convincing me that Once is not the best album he's ever written.

(Side note: The captcha I had to fill out for this was "face the music", lol)

 

[LetalisK]

I've never seen Evangelon, Full Metal Alchemist, or any other anime besides DBZ when I was 10. But these are probably my favorite strips. It's amusing to come into the comments thread and see how many people take this shit way too seriously.

 

[BX3]

You draw such a great metal Alphonse.

I've not watched it, though I don't intend to if public opinion is so divided, since that tends to mean it is indeed overrated.

I'm of the opposite philosophy, personally.

I tend to try out overrated series' (game, show or otherwise) that have a public divide simply because "overrated" and "actually bad" get mixed up about as much as "they're", "their" and "there" does.

I've never watched Eva, but on the divide alone I'd say give it a try mainly because 9 times out of 10, stuff like this really isn't worth the nerd rage it causes from either side.

 

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

Gendo Ikari, best dad ever.

Shinji Ikari, only person to complain that he gets to pilot a giant robot and live with MILFsato.

Oh boy, here we go again. Let's see, he also has had various tragedies that we are lucky to never happen as stated in the comic: abandonment, low self-confidence, and extreme pain and agony to the point of wanting to die.

that giant robot, it will literally torture you as you fight because of the pain transmission, everytime an angel blast or rips a chunk of flesh off, you feel that agonizing pain and since the actual damage is not occurring on your body, it tend to cause a mental drain

as for the women, Misato has her own problems and as of Eva 3.0 kind of hates Shinji for third impact. Asuka is extremely closed off and pushes Shinji away so hard that he feels even greater abandonment. Rei is pretty much a empty shell that can be replaced over and over and that continual cycle of having someone you are close to die and come back with no memory of your experience together would have an effect.

I'm honestly tired of people who say that Shinji should stop whining. The pain he goes through and the timeframe he experienced them would crack many people in real life.

Called it.

I'm very well aware of the actual implications of the show.

See, we have these things we do for comic effect.

You may of heard of them before, they're called jokes.

two things: a, I am very dense when it comes to comedy and sarcasm. B. You are making fun of a show that most people are on very different sides on so making a joke will aggravate one side or the other

 

[Tono Makt]

You draw such a great metal Alphonse.

I've not watched it, though I don't intend to if public opinion is so divided, since that tends to mean it is indeed overrated.

I'm of the opposite philosophy, personally.

I tend to try out overrated series' (game, show or otherwise) that have a public divide simply because "overrated" and "actually bad" get mixed up about as much as "they're", "their" and "there" does.

I've never watched Eva, but on the divide alone I'd say give it a try mainly because 9 times out of 10, stuff like this really isn't worth the nerd rage it causes from either side.

Probably a good call. Overrated and Overhyped get mixed up alot, and "I don't like it." gets mixed up with "Bad." even more often.

In the case of Eva, it's a bit overrated (as Otaku fans have a tendency to give it a 12/10, it's pretty much impossible for it to live up to their rating), extremely overhyped (Otaku quite often will go to extreme lengths to sell the show to people who haven't watched it, making used car salemen go "Dude... ethics. Ethics, dude, ethics. Like... really. They're important."), gets quite a bit of "I don't like it." (personally, I hate Eva) but for all that it's not "Bad".

If you decide to watch it, start with the original series. This isn't a recommendation to watch the series, just a recommendation of where to begin if you decide to watch it.

 

[Lunar Templar]

Full Metal Genesis

He is a bit of a bamf when you think about it.

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>.>

You know, just about everyone is a BAMF compared to Shinji, like Edward from FF4, he's a total badass compared to Shinji

 

[Demonjazz]

I've been wanting to see Neon genesis since everyone says that it is very good. However, from what I have seen of it is that it show cases the very worst stereo types of anime, (Weak main character, excessive fan service, all female characters clinging to the protagonist like flies around a turd, oh and that stupid thing anime does where the main character slips and land body first on a female touching her breasts looking embarrassed)

I always imagine that one episode of an anime where instead of doing that falling onto breasts thing. The female character just keeps complaining that her chest hurts because it just had a man with his arms out fall onto her. That hurts you know

 

[triggrhappy94]

I think thinking that you just killed your younger brother is worse than having to kill your horrible zombie mom.

Let's not forget, he also had to sacrifice his own arm to save Al, after losing a leg.

 

[RedmistSM]

I get FMA, but what happened to make Evangelion relevant recently? Is it the movies?

It was pretty funny, though. Everyone in FMA has such a positive outlook compared t everyone in Eva.

 

[Darth_Payn]

I've had people tell me FMA wasn't good anime because it was "too westernized." Ha.

Replace 'too westernized' with 'tonally schizophrenic', and I'd say they're onto something.

What do you guys mean "too westernized"? Was it because it wasn't set in Japan and the characters had no Japanese names? That's what didn't click for me with FMA, they didn't tell you where or when it's set, until the last few episodes, where they reveal it's an alternate universe 1920's Germany, I think. Although you are spot on about the tonal schizophrenia; they flipped back-and-forth between slapstick goofiness and depressive seriousness so much it gave me a new form of whiplash (seriously, there are way too many scenes of Edward speaking like he's a few seconds away from crying). I thought the last two panels of today's comic captured that wonderfully.

 

[Korten12]

I've had people tell me FMA wasn't good anime because it was "too westernized." Ha.

Also, Elric brothers are kick-ass.

By that logic, Cowboy Bebop was horrible. (Spoiler alert: It was awesome)

Well I did hear that Cowboy Bebop was a lot more popular in the west then it was in Japan where it sort of just faded away. If I am wrong someone correct me.

 

[Seracen]

Batman voice: My parents are DEAD... [GASP] DEEEEAAADDDD!!!!"

In all seriousness though, an emo person would look down on Shinji's self flagellation. I can't even watch this show any more...maybe the reboot, though I am waiting until it's done.

 

[Darth_Payn]

I've been wanting to see Neon genesis since everyone says that it is very good. However, from what I have seen of it is that it show cases the very worst stereo types of anime, (Weak main character, excessive fan service, all female characters clinging to the protagonist like flies around a turd, oh and that stupid thing anime does where the main character slips and land body first on a female touching her breasts looking embarrassed)

I always imagine that one episode of an anime where instead of doing that falling onto breasts thing. The female character just keeps complaining that her chest hurts because it just had a man with his arms out fall onto her. That hurts you know

I imagine that's a frequent problem for Yoko Litner of Gurren Laggan, but from what I recall, she didn't seem to mind. I have to find if and how many times Bleach's Rangiku Matsumoto was involved in Funbag Airbag (that's a trope name, kids!) incident.

 

[Ipsen]

"I'm going to learn kungfu." That's one way to deal with guilt.

That's not just one way to deal with guilt. Not even just THE way to deal with guilt. It's the way to deal with everything.

~My 2 copper coins

 

[Xpwn3ntial]

Still waiting on that tang joke, Grey.

 

[SadakoMoose]

Gendo Ikari, best dad ever.

Shinji Ikari, only person to complain that he gets to pilot a giant robot and live with MILFsato.

Yea, the guy that got his wife and many others killed pursuing a mad man's dream. The guy that orphaned "MILFSato" in the first place. The guy that treats his son like he's not even there, UNTIL he needs him to fight ungodly abominations. Yea, a 16 years old with no military training, put in a position where the FATE OF HUMANITY depends on him putting his life on the line via the piloting of a robot made from his dead mother. Weird. All the while, having to live with a drunk

Also, to boil down Misato's somewhat tragic character to a porn cliche. Wow.

See post number 35.


It's like some people look for reasons to go 'nuhhuh, that's totally not why!'.

You're not impressing anyone, on the contrary, you're pointing out something people already know and missing the whole point of these things we call jokes.

I didn't miss the joke, I just didn't think it was funny. He's covered the NGE stuff before, and he's not really doing anything new with his criticism. He's entitled to his opinion, but I still don't think that it works as satire because it ignores "something people already know".

For example: "Hey, "the Simpsons" sure sucks because of Bart's Oedipus complex for Marge!"

Now if you're at all familiar with the Simpsons, you can immediately tell that I've gotten a key detail wrong about the series. I've taken Marge's character trait of loving Bart as a son, and I've broadly misinterpreted it to be something that sounds "funny" but does not reflect the actual series. At that point, it's not satire.

One another note: Listen, I know what a joke is. I also know how to respond to criticism without talking down or acting like I'm only funny person in the room. If you want to have a respectful conversation, don't go trying to make your opponent out to be a petulant child, so that you can make yourself look like the "last bastion of reason and comedy in all the internet". I have the views I have, because they are my views.

I'm not trying to impress anybody, nor am I desperate fan boy crying over spilled milk, but it would appear that treating others with a modicum of respect just falls short of meeting your criteria for a proper response.

 

[RJ 17]

Snip.

Yep, I'd say that about sums it up for me. I didn't get it, didn't get why people love it so much, and really have no desire to even make the attempt to get into it or understand it.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Gendo Ikari, best dad ever.

Shinji Ikari, only person to complain that he gets to pilot a giant robot and live with MILFsato.

Yea, the guy that got his wife and many others killed pursuing a mad man's dream. The guy that orphaned "MILFSato" in the first place. The guy that treats his son like he's not even there, UNTIL he needs him to fight ungodly abominations. Yea, a 16 years old with no military training, put in a position where the FATE OF HUMANITY depends on him putting his life on the line via the piloting of a robot made from his dead mother. Weird. All the while, having to live with a drunk

Also, to boil down Misato's somewhat tragic character to a porn cliche. Wow.

See post number 35.


It's like some people look for reasons to go 'nuhhuh, that's totally not why!'.

You're not impressing anyone, on the contrary, you're pointing out something people already know and missing the whole point of these things we call jokes.

I didn't miss the joke, I just didn't think it was funny. He's covered the NGE stuff before, and he's not really doing anything new with his criticism. He's entitled to his opinion, but I still don't think that it works as satire because it ignores "something people already know".

For example: "Hey, "the Simpsons" sure sucks because of Bart's Oedipus complex for Marge!"

Now if you're at all familiar with the Simpsons, you can immediately tell that I've gotten a key detail wrong about the series. I've taken Marge's character trait of loving Bart as a son, and I've broadly misinterpreted it to be something that sounds "funny" but does not reflect the actual series. At that point, it's not satire.

One another note: Listen, I know what a joke is. I also know how to respond to criticism without talking down or acting like I'm only funny person in the room. If you want to have a respectful conversation, don't go trying to make your opponent out to be a petulant child, so that you can make yourself look like the "last bastion of reason and comedy in all the internet". I have the views I have, because they are my views.

I'm not trying to impress anybody, nor am I desperate fan boy crying over spilled milk, but it would appear that treating others with a modicum of respect just falls short of meeting your criteria for a proper response.

For someone who claims to know how jokes work, you did real number missing the point of this one