Full Metal Genesis

[Tono Makt]

You draw such a great metal Alphonse.

I've not watched it, though I don't intend to if public opinion is so divided, since that tends to mean it is indeed overrated.

I'm of the opposite philosophy, personally.

I tend to try out overrated series' (game, show or otherwise) that have a public divide simply because "overrated" and "actually bad" get mixed up about as much as "they're", "their" and "there" does.

I've never watched Eva, but on the divide alone I'd say give it a try mainly because 9 times out of 10, stuff like this really isn't worth the nerd rage it causes from either side.

Probably a good call. Overrated and Overhyped get mixed up alot, and "I don't like it." gets mixed up with "Bad." even more often.

In the case of Eva, it's a bit overrated (as Otaku fans have a tendency to give it a 12/10, it's pretty much impossible for it to live up to their rating), extremely overhyped (Otaku quite often will go to extreme lengths to sell the show to people who haven't watched it, making used car salemen go "Dude... ethics. Ethics, dude, ethics. Like... really. They're important."), gets quite a bit of "I don't like it." (personally, I hate Eva) but for all that it's not "Bad".

If you decide to watch it, start with the original series. This isn't a recommendation to watch the series, just a recommendation of where to begin if you decide to watch it.

 

[Lunar Templar]

Full Metal Genesis

He is a bit of a bamf when you think about it.

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You know, just about everyone is a BAMF compared to Shinji, like Edward from FF4, he's a total badass compared to Shinji

 

[Demonjazz]

I've been wanting to see Neon genesis since everyone says that it is very good. However, from what I have seen of it is that it show cases the very worst stereo types of anime, (Weak main character, excessive fan service, all female characters clinging to the protagonist like flies around a turd, oh and that stupid thing anime does where the main character slips and land body first on a female touching her breasts looking embarrassed)

I always imagine that one episode of an anime where instead of doing that falling onto breasts thing. The female character just keeps complaining that her chest hurts because it just had a man with his arms out fall onto her. That hurts you know

 

[triggrhappy94]

I think thinking that you just killed your younger brother is worse than having to kill your horrible zombie mom.

Let's not forget, he also had to sacrifice his own arm to save Al, after losing a leg.

 

[RedmistSM]

I get FMA, but what happened to make Evangelion relevant recently? Is it the movies?

It was pretty funny, though. Everyone in FMA has such a positive outlook compared t everyone in Eva.

 

[Darth_Payn]

I've had people tell me FMA wasn't good anime because it was "too westernized." Ha.

Replace 'too westernized' with 'tonally schizophrenic', and I'd say they're onto something.

What do you guys mean "too westernized"? Was it because it wasn't set in Japan and the characters had no Japanese names? That's what didn't click for me with FMA, they didn't tell you where or when it's set, until the last few episodes, where they reveal it's an alternate universe 1920's Germany, I think. Although you are spot on about the tonal schizophrenia; they flipped back-and-forth between slapstick goofiness and depressive seriousness so much it gave me a new form of whiplash (seriously, there are way too many scenes of Edward speaking like he's a few seconds away from crying). I thought the last two panels of today's comic captured that wonderfully.

 

[Korten12]

I've had people tell me FMA wasn't good anime because it was "too westernized." Ha.

Also, Elric brothers are kick-ass.

By that logic, Cowboy Bebop was horrible. (Spoiler alert: It was awesome)

Well I did hear that Cowboy Bebop was a lot more popular in the west then it was in Japan where it sort of just faded away. If I am wrong someone correct me.

 

[Seracen]

Batman voice: My parents are DEAD... [GASP] DEEEEAAADDDD!!!!"

In all seriousness though, an emo person would look down on Shinji's self flagellation. I can't even watch this show any more...maybe the reboot, though I am waiting until it's done.

 

[Darth_Payn]

I've been wanting to see Neon genesis since everyone says that it is very good. However, from what I have seen of it is that it show cases the very worst stereo types of anime, (Weak main character, excessive fan service, all female characters clinging to the protagonist like flies around a turd, oh and that stupid thing anime does where the main character slips and land body first on a female touching her breasts looking embarrassed)

I always imagine that one episode of an anime where instead of doing that falling onto breasts thing. The female character just keeps complaining that her chest hurts because it just had a man with his arms out fall onto her. That hurts you know

I imagine that's a frequent problem for Yoko Litner of Gurren Laggan, but from what I recall, she didn't seem to mind. I have to find if and how many times Bleach's Rangiku Matsumoto was involved in Funbag Airbag (that's a trope name, kids!) incident.

 

[Ipsen]

"I'm going to learn kungfu." That's one way to deal with guilt.

That's not just one way to deal with guilt. Not even just THE way to deal with guilt. It's the way to deal with everything.

~My 2 copper coins

 

[Xpwn3ntial]

Still waiting on that tang joke, Grey.

 

[SadakoMoose]

Gendo Ikari, best dad ever.

Shinji Ikari, only person to complain that he gets to pilot a giant robot and live with MILFsato.

Yea, the guy that got his wife and many others killed pursuing a mad man's dream. The guy that orphaned "MILFSato" in the first place. The guy that treats his son like he's not even there, UNTIL he needs him to fight ungodly abominations. Yea, a 16 years old with no military training, put in a position where the FATE OF HUMANITY depends on him putting his life on the line via the piloting of a robot made from his dead mother. Weird. All the while, having to live with a drunk

Also, to boil down Misato's somewhat tragic character to a porn cliche. Wow.

See post number 35.


It's like some people look for reasons to go 'nuhhuh, that's totally not why!'.

You're not impressing anyone, on the contrary, you're pointing out something people already know and missing the whole point of these things we call jokes.

I didn't miss the joke, I just didn't think it was funny. He's covered the NGE stuff before, and he's not really doing anything new with his criticism. He's entitled to his opinion, but I still don't think that it works as satire because it ignores "something people already know".

For example: "Hey, "the Simpsons" sure sucks because of Bart's Oedipus complex for Marge!"

Now if you're at all familiar with the Simpsons, you can immediately tell that I've gotten a key detail wrong about the series. I've taken Marge's character trait of loving Bart as a son, and I've broadly misinterpreted it to be something that sounds "funny" but does not reflect the actual series. At that point, it's not satire.

One another note: Listen, I know what a joke is. I also know how to respond to criticism without talking down or acting like I'm only funny person in the room. If you want to have a respectful conversation, don't go trying to make your opponent out to be a petulant child, so that you can make yourself look like the "last bastion of reason and comedy in all the internet". I have the views I have, because they are my views.

I'm not trying to impress anybody, nor am I desperate fan boy crying over spilled milk, but it would appear that treating others with a modicum of respect just falls short of meeting your criteria for a proper response.

 

[RJ 17]

Snip.

Yep, I'd say that about sums it up for me. I didn't get it, didn't get why people love it so much, and really have no desire to even make the attempt to get into it or understand it.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Gendo Ikari, best dad ever.

Shinji Ikari, only person to complain that he gets to pilot a giant robot and live with MILFsato.

Yea, the guy that got his wife and many others killed pursuing a mad man's dream. The guy that orphaned "MILFSato" in the first place. The guy that treats his son like he's not even there, UNTIL he needs him to fight ungodly abominations. Yea, a 16 years old with no military training, put in a position where the FATE OF HUMANITY depends on him putting his life on the line via the piloting of a robot made from his dead mother. Weird. All the while, having to live with a drunk

Also, to boil down Misato's somewhat tragic character to a porn cliche. Wow.

See post number 35.


It's like some people look for reasons to go 'nuhhuh, that's totally not why!'.

You're not impressing anyone, on the contrary, you're pointing out something people already know and missing the whole point of these things we call jokes.

I didn't miss the joke, I just didn't think it was funny. He's covered the NGE stuff before, and he's not really doing anything new with his criticism. He's entitled to his opinion, but I still don't think that it works as satire because it ignores "something people already know".

For example: "Hey, "the Simpsons" sure sucks because of Bart's Oedipus complex for Marge!"

Now if you're at all familiar with the Simpsons, you can immediately tell that I've gotten a key detail wrong about the series. I've taken Marge's character trait of loving Bart as a son, and I've broadly misinterpreted it to be something that sounds "funny" but does not reflect the actual series. At that point, it's not satire.

One another note: Listen, I know what a joke is. I also know how to respond to criticism without talking down or acting like I'm only funny person in the room. If you want to have a respectful conversation, don't go trying to make your opponent out to be a petulant child, so that you can make yourself look like the "last bastion of reason and comedy in all the internet". I have the views I have, because they are my views.

I'm not trying to impress anybody, nor am I desperate fan boy crying over spilled milk, but it would appear that treating others with a modicum of respect just falls short of meeting your criteria for a proper response.

For someone who claims to know how jokes work, you did real number missing the point of this one

 

[SadakoMoose]

Gendo Ikari, best dad ever.

Shinji Ikari, only person to complain that he gets to pilot a giant robot and live with MILFsato.

Yea, the guy that got his wife and many others killed pursuing a mad man's dream. The guy that orphaned "MILFSato" in the first place. The guy that treats his son like he's not even there, UNTIL he needs him to fight ungodly abominations. Yea, a 16 years old with no military training, put in a position where the FATE OF HUMANITY depends on him putting his life on the line via the piloting of a robot made from his dead mother. Weird. All the while, having to live with a drunk

Also, to boil down Misato's somewhat tragic character to a porn cliche. Wow.

See post number 35.


It's like some people look for reasons to go 'nuhhuh, that's totally not why!'.

You're not impressing anyone, on the contrary, you're pointing out something people already know and missing the whole point of these things we call jokes.

I didn't miss the joke, I just didn't think it was funny. He's covered the NGE stuff before, and he's not really doing anything new with his criticism. He's entitled to his opinion, but I still don't think that it works as satire because it ignores "something people already know".

For example: "Hey, "the Simpsons" sure sucks because of Bart's Oedipus complex for Marge!"

Now if you're at all familiar with the Simpsons, you can immediately tell that I've gotten a key detail wrong about the series. I've taken Marge's character trait of loving Bart as a son, and I've broadly misinterpreted it to be something that sounds "funny" but does not reflect the actual series. At that point, it's not satire.

One another note: Listen, I know what a joke is. I also know how to respond to criticism without talking down or acting like I'm only funny person in the room. If you want to have a respectful conversation, don't go trying to make your opponent out to be a petulant child, so that you can make yourself look like the "last bastion of reason and comedy in all the internet". I have the views I have, because they are my views.

I'm not trying to impress anybody, nor am I desperate fan boy crying over spilled milk, but it would appear that treating others with a modicum of respect just falls short of meeting your criteria for a proper response.

For someone who claims to know how jokes work, you did real number missing the point of this one

Is it so much to ask that you actually read what I wrote and directly respond to me? Listen, if you didn't have anything to add or rebut regarding my argument, don't make another post and just let it go. If you want to have a discussion, then have a damn discussion and don't come back with one sentence "take downs". It's very clear that neither of us respects each other at this point, and I'm fine with that if it ends here.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Gendo Ikari, best dad ever.

Shinji Ikari, only person to complain that he gets to pilot a giant robot and live with MILFsato.

Yea, the guy that got his wife and many others killed pursuing a mad man's dream. The guy that orphaned "MILFSato" in the first place. The guy that treats his son like he's not even there, UNTIL he needs him to fight ungodly abominations. Yea, a 16 years old with no military training, put in a position where the FATE OF HUMANITY depends on him putting his life on the line via the piloting of a robot made from his dead mother. Weird. All the while, having to live with a drunk

Also, to boil down Misato's somewhat tragic character to a porn cliche. Wow.

See post number 35.


It's like some people look for reasons to go 'nuhhuh, that's totally not why!'.

You're not impressing anyone, on the contrary, you're pointing out something people already know and missing the whole point of these things we call jokes.

I didn't miss the joke, I just didn't think it was funny. He's covered the NGE stuff before, and he's not really doing anything new with his criticism. He's entitled to his opinion, but I still don't think that it works as satire because it ignores "something people already know".

For example: "Hey, "the Simpsons" sure sucks because of Bart's Oedipus complex for Marge!"

Now if you're at all familiar with the Simpsons, you can immediately tell that I've gotten a key detail wrong about the series. I've taken Marge's character trait of loving Bart as a son, and I've broadly misinterpreted it to be something that sounds "funny" but does not reflect the actual series. At that point, it's not satire.

One another note: Listen, I know what a joke is. I also know how to respond to criticism without talking down or acting like I'm only funny person in the room. If you want to have a respectful conversation, don't go trying to make your opponent out to be a petulant child, so that you can make yourself look like the "last bastion of reason and comedy in all the internet". I have the views I have, because they are my views.

I'm not trying to impress anybody, nor am I desperate fan boy crying over spilled milk, but it would appear that treating others with a modicum of respect just falls short of meeting your criteria for a proper response.

For someone who claims to know how jokes work, you did real number missing the point of this one

Is it so much to ask that you actually read what I wrote and directly respond to me? Listen, if you didn't have anything to add or rebut regarding my argument, don't make another post and just let it go. If you want to have a discussion, then have a damn discussion and don't come back with one sentence "take downs". It's very clear that neither of us respects each other at this point, and I'm fine with that if it ends here.

Oh, I read it.

You still missed the point.

Whether you dislike the joke is neither here nor there, you still overreacted.

 

[Saltyk]

Okay. Al is awesome! Has a life that would make anyone else crack, and just keeps on going.

Should be noted that Al can't sleep as a suit of armor. He literally stays up all night while others sleep. Nor can he eat, smell, or feel things. His life is a shell of a life. It's probably one of the most tragic lives in just about any series I've seen. And yet, he does take it remarkably well.

Learn that Kung Fu, Al. You crazy magnificent bastard.

Gendo Ikari, best dad ever.

Shinji Ikari, only person to complain that he gets to pilot a giant robot and live with MILFsato.

Yea, the guy that got his wife and many others killed pursuing a mad man's dream. The guy that orphaned "MILFSato" in the first place. The guy that treats his son like he's not even there, UNTIL he needs him to fight ungodly abominations. Yea, a 16 years old with no military training, put in a position where the FATE OF HUMANITY depends on him putting his life on the line via the piloting of a robot made from his dead mother. Weird. All the while, having to live with a drunk

Also, to boil down Misato's somewhat tragic character to a porn cliche. Wow.

See post number 35.


It's like some people look for reasons to go 'nuhhuh, that's totally not why!'.

You're not impressing anyone, on the contrary, you're pointing out something people already know and missing the whole point of these things we call jokes.

I didn't miss the joke, I just didn't think it was funny. He's covered the NGE stuff before, and he's not really doing anything new with his criticism. He's entitled to his opinion, but I still don't think that it works as satire because it ignores "something people already know".

For example: "Hey, "the Simpsons" sure sucks because of Bart's Oedipus complex for Marge!"

Now if you're at all familiar with the Simpsons, you can immediately tell that I've gotten a key detail wrong about the series. I've taken Marge's character trait of loving Bart as a son, and I've broadly misinterpreted it to be something that sounds "funny" but does not reflect the actual series. At that point, it's not satire.

One another note: Listen, I know what a joke is. I also know how to respond to criticism without talking down or acting like I'm only funny person in the room. If you want to have a respectful conversation, don't go trying to make your opponent out to be a petulant child, so that you can make yourself look like the "last bastion of reason and comedy in all the internet". I have the views I have, because they are my views.

I'm not trying to impress anybody, nor am I desperate fan boy crying over spilled milk, but it would appear that treating others with a modicum of respect just falls short of meeting your criteria for a proper response.

For someone who claims to know how jokes work, you did real number missing the point of this one

Is it so much to ask that you actually read what I wrote and directly respond to me? Listen, if you didn't have anything to add or rebut regarding my argument, don't make another post and just let it go. If you want to have a discussion, then have a damn discussion and don't come back with one sentence "take downs". It's very clear that neither of us respects each other at this point, and I'm fine with that if it ends here.

Okay. Step away from the keyboard. Take a deep breath. Relax. You are taking this all way too seriously. And I take shit way too seriously!

This is a joke. If you didn't like it, you are entitled to your opinion. But realize others disagree. Daystar obviously disagrees. So do I. I found it funny. Relax. If you like it, this comic doesn't take away from that fact. Hell, I'm sure even people who liked EVA found this funny. I've found jokes mocking things I love hilarious. Why else would Little Kuriboh and Team Four Star be so popular? It's okay to laugh. Even at things you enjoy.

Also, I don't think Daystar was actually being rude. Just not taking it as seriously as you. Trust me. He's like that.

 

[Kargathia]

To be fair though, if the roles were reversed, then Al still wouldn't (and couldn't) do much about the NGE harem throwing themselves at him.

 

[uchytjes]

I've had people tell me FMA wasn't good anime because it was "too westernized." Ha.

Also, Elric brothers are kick-ass.

By that logic, Cowboy Bebop was horrible. (Spoiler alert: It was awesome)

Well I did hear that Cowboy Bebop was a lot more popular in the west then it was in Japan where it sort of just faded away. If I am wrong someone correct me.

You are completely correct. Honestly, its the reason why most people thought the show didn't get a second season. Japan didn't like it when it came out, so they assumed it'd flop if a second season was made.

 

[Triality]

Great punchline. It got a chuckle out of me, since I love both shows and stories for different reasons.

Evangelion was anime's Watchmen. The heroes and side characters made all the most selfish, cowardly, and wrongheaded choices imaginable and then savoring the moment these characters turn around and realize how terrible these choices were. Shinji, Misato, Gendo, Asuka, Ritsuko, Kaji, all of them had these moments and they are still indelible to me. Did the studio make some terribly cheesy and contrite money grab licensing deals? Without a hesitation or doubt, YES. This emerged from how EVA itself was made on a shoestring budget and the last 2 episodes suffered for this.

FMA original and Brotherhood were 100% undiluted awesome and homage to the hero's journey as experienced through 2 heroes with the same goal yet occupying different shades of the same worldview.