Funny events in anti-woke world
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Then come out and say what your argument is.
It would be incredibly, incredibly easy for you to end this whole discussion immediately by just saying the thing you seem to be avoiding saying.
If Russia isn't your model of anti-imperialism in action, then what is it?
No, I object to the idea that nations should seek or have the thing Russia and the USA are competing for.
They are the entire point of this discussion.
Name those things.
That is all anyone wants from you. Name them. Say them out loud.
And how does Ukraine factor in to Russia's destiny? How does Chechnya? How does Syria? How does Iran? What people within Russia itself do you think have influence over their own destiny?
The US likes to have influence over its own destiny as well. One of the ways it exerts influence over its own destiny is by ensuring a reliable supply of resources and labour, market conditions that are conducive to its prosperity, reliable markets for its goods and weapons, global security..
What does not being subservient to Western capital actually look like? Does it look like Russia?
Does Russia not have a capitalist ruling class of its own whose interests align closely with their American counterparts save for the degree of competition inherent to capitalist economics?
If so, why would Russia's capitalist ruling class be urging their government to compete with the USA?
Does Russia have some intrinsic right not to have an "anti-Russian regime" on its doorstep?
How big are these counties' doorsteps?
A better world for whom?
The existing world is very, very good for some people. Some of those people are in the USA. Some of those people are in Russia. The problem is (in an ironically very fascist move) you're substituting a meaningful class struggle for a struggle between nations. It's a struggle that has to be waged with armies and intelligence agencies, rather than reform or revolution. It isn't going to produce a "better world" for most people because the people ordering those armies around are doing very well in the existing world.
It's not that I can't imagine compromising idealism for the sake of political expedience in building a better world, but why would I do it for Russia?
I really wish my country would treat the US as a violent theocracy and wash its hands of the place.
Nobody said anything that even remotely implies "defending oneself is imperialism". That's just nonsensical drivel.
Only in America?
You know, this could fit right into a parody... sad it's actually real
Does "Jesus guns babies" need a comma, or are they talking about those babies?
Ah I've seen her campaign vids before. Perhaps her slogan would be served better as a simple picture instead;
(What would baby Jesus with a gun do)
Ex-undercover antifa supersoldier Amanda slipped some extra recorded footage into the comments there too lol
To be fair, there's already a few pandemic persecution movies been made so far. But of course this creepazoid asshole makes himself the main character in his film, of bloody course he does.
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Honestly, if Kanye West were to die right now, I would not shed a single tear for the douchebag. I won't be laughing, but I won't be respectful either. He knows he's an asshole and treats all his fans like the cult pawns they want to be, but never want to admit to being. They can screw off as well, and I have even less respect for them. Kanye's just another self-hating black man, that is racist to his own race and a sexist. Like I said before a long time ago, he's already dead to me.
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Russia is a lot of things. A target of US aggression, a foreign distraction from domestic problems, a scapegoat; a regional power with completely reasonable security concerns about NATO expansion and encirclement; a state that subverts the imperialism of the United States in various ways, including by not taking part in US sanctions and engaging in trade with other targets of US aggression and hostility.
No. You sound like an inquisitor.
Defending oneself from the United States makes one a rival of the United States.
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So, what you're saying is that Russia is your model of anti-Imperialism in action.
See, now we're getting somewhere.
And you sound like an apologist for the Russian state. Correct that, or don't. If you have so little regard for my respect that you're comfortable with me thinking that of you, then do as you wish.
Actually, you said that.
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Only if you want to stretch that idea so far as to be almost meaningless. By that standard, if you consider Russia an empire, then you would consider expanding United States hegemony to be an anti-imperialist project. Surely you understand that "model of anti-imperialism and anti-fascism" implies a hell of a lot more than enemy of my enemy. You must.
If this is the conclusion you draw from what I've said, the problem is on your end exclusively. Learn to read or don't.
...he said while arguing with a pile of users who all reached the same conclusion from his posts.
it's not at all my fault that people are so drenched in jingoistic propaganda that they cannot figure out the difference between opposing the US taking more and more of the world and being pro-Russia.
In fairness, each one has a star acting as a bullet point so it’s a grammatically good list by my reading.
Or better, "Who Would Jesus Stand His Ground Against". Y'know, for all those "stand your ground" laws that try to legalize white people murdering minorities.
Despite being disgraced, Andrew is still in line for the throne. Bad outbrea of covid amongst the royals, and...
"In a world...enslaved by age of consent...."
I can't, I just can't. I'm sorry.