Funny events in anti-woke world

[Cheetodust]

I like the part where they said, 'Truth is not hate speech'

BUT... they're the Babylon Bee... who is devoted to not telling the truth for jokes

EDIT: When the fuck did jokes become the 'Truth.' Is that what conservatives think happened whenever Al Bundy spoke?

You see comedians are brave truth tellers, the only ones left to tell it like it is, but also it's just jokes so don't take it seriously.

I stopped doing stand up comedy because comedians are insufferable. And half the bookers in my city had sexually assaulted female comedians.

 

[Casual Shinji]

I like the part where they said, 'Truth is not hate speech'

BUT... they're the Babylon Bee... who is devoted to not telling the truth for jokes

EDIT: When the fuck did jokes become the 'Truth.' Is that what conservatives think happened whenever Al Bundy spoke?

If one feels the need to say 'truth is not hate speech' then... it's hate speech.

The thing is, you could probably tell some extremely hateful jokes that actually have some effort put into them, but with conservatives it only ever amounts to 'dressing in drag lol'. That shit is still the height of comedy for these people.

I went to school when finger glasses was still an insult, and that was 30 years ago.



Conservatives are still stuck in that era it seems, which is even more embarressing considering a lot of them are probably younger than I am.

 

[BrawlMan]

EDIT: When the fuck did jokes become the 'Truth.' Is that what conservatives think happened whenever Al Bundy spoke?

Mindless slaves that claim to have no will, but their own whenever it's convenient or they don't wanna take responsibility.

I stopped doing stand up comedy because comedians are insufferable.

I admit that I don't care much for most stand up comedy either. Though my reasons are more the line of changing interests, and majority of them I do not find interesting (anymore). Plus, Internet humor ruined stand up for me.

You see comedians are brave truth tellers, the only ones left to tell it like it is, but also it's just jokes so don't take it seriously.

Until said comedian(s) says something people don't like to hear, or an actual truth, then it's "lies" or spreading "false truths".

And half the bookers in my city had sexually assaulted female comedians.

I hope half of those bookers got thrown in prison for a long time. That is messed up.

 

[Cheetodust]

I hope half of those bookers got thrown in prison for a long time. That is messed up.

The fact that I never looked back into getting on the circuit again unfortunately should answer that question.

 

[Trunkage]

If one feels the need to say 'truth is not hate speech' then... it's hate speech.

Well, I also dont why 'truth' couldn't also be hate speech. But the whole point is to make hate speech acceptable. So applying logic is futile

I also wouldnt call John Oliver as the most truthful person around and he is generally well research and relatively funny compared to most comedians. In fact, most of his jokes are untruthful which is splattered in between some info

 

[Gergar12]

Anti-woke opinion Andrew Yang is cringed. I don't think a 2000 dollar a month check that serves as a permission slip for a dictator forcing me to pee in a bottle to make business/delivery quotas is going to work, and the power of dictator barons in our economies would increase not decrease, the US would be a company town but on a national scale.

The reason I say this is because I was at a talk on Twitter would Yang, and yes he would talk about how anti-Asian hatred is bad which is generally true, but a few points.

1. They/the US elite would only target the rich of China ie the children of oligarchs studying in China, which I am not one of them, and most Chinese-Americans from the mainland aren't so fuck them.

2. They won't even kill these spoiled, and privileged fuckwits, just nationalized their property, I haven't heard of the kids of Russian oligarchs that have been killed.

3. Andrew Yang thinks the burning man is great which is a double cringe, the people there are deeply out of touch

 

[Silvanus]

Anti-woke opinion Andrew Yang is cringed. I don't think a 2000 dollar a month check that serves as a permission slip for a dictator forcing me to pee in a bottle to make business/delivery quotas is going to work, and the power of dictator barons in our economies would increase not decrease, the US would be a company town but on a national scale.

The reason I say this is because I was at a talk on Twitter would Yang, and yes he would talk about how anti-Asian hatred is bad which is generally true, but a few points.

1. They/the US elite would only target the rich of China ie the children of oligarchs studying in China, which I am not one of them, and most Chinese-Americans from the mainland aren't so fuck them.

2. They won't even kill these spoiled, and privileged fuckwits, just nationalized their property, I haven't heard of the kids of Russian oligarchs that have been killed.

3. Andrew Yang thinks the burning man is great which is a double cringe, the people there are deeply out of touch

I've reread this a couple of times and still have no idea what you're on about.

 

[XsjadoBlayde]

Friendly neighborhood nazi updates

Two members of an accelerationist neo-Nazi terror network accused of plotting to attack the power grid in preparation for an assassination campaign have pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate with the government’s prosecution.

Paul James Kryscuk, a former porn actor who used the alias “Deacon” while active in the neo-Nazi group BSN from 2017 through 2020, pleaded guilty to conspiracy to damage an energy facility on Feb. 10, with the possibility of receiving a reduction from a 15-year prison sentence in exchange for “substantial assistance” in the government’s prosecution in the case.

Following Kryscuk’s plea, Marine Corps veteran Justin Wade Hermanson aka “Sandman” entered a guilty plea for conspiracy to illegally manufacture, ship, transport and receive firearms on March 8. Like Kryscuk, Hermanson’s plea deal includes an agreement to cooperate with the government’s investigation and testify against his codefendants should they go to trial. Both men pleaded in the Eastern District of North Carolina, where the case is being tried.

Three codefendants, including BSN leader Liam Montgomery Collins, have yet to be arraigned on charges from a third superseding indictment that include multiple counts of conspiracy to illegally manufacture and transport firearms, and destruction of an energy facility.


Collins and Kryscuk met through Iron March, an international online forum set up to facilitate networking by violent neo-Nazis.


“I have a tightknit crew of ex-Mil and Security I train with,” Collins wrote in a post on Iron March in August 2017, the same month he entered basic training for the Marine Corps. “We do hikes, gym sessions, live firing exercises, and we eventually plan to guy a lot of land. Can’t really specify the name or details because it’s an inner-circle thing, but it will serve its purpose when the time comes. Think of it as a modern-day SS.”

In 2017, Kryscuk outlined a plan for launching a race war that he hoped would lay the groundwork for a future white ethno-state in a post on Iron March, according to the indictment: “First order of business is knocking down The System, mounting it and smashing its face until it has been beaten past the point of death… eventually we will have to bring the rifles out and go to work…. We will have to hit the streets and strike as many blows to the remaining power structure as we can to keep it on the ropes.”


Jordan Duncan, also a Marine Corps veteran, and Joseph Maurino, a member of the New Jersey National Guard who was previously deployed to Qatar, are also defendants in the conspiracy case.


All five defendants were charged in a superseding indictment unveiled in August 2021 with conspiracy to illegally manufacture and transport firearms as part of a plot to instigate civil disorder. The indictment also charged all the defendants, with the exception of Hermanson, with conspiracy to sabotage the power grid. It is unclear why Hermanson was not included.


The indictment describes the purpose of the attack on the power grid as “creating general chaos and to provide cover and ease of escape in those areas in which they planned to undertake assassinations and other desired operations to further their goal of creating a white ethno-state.”

Led by Kryscuk, the members of BSN began to relocate to Boise, Idaho in early 2020 and conducted a live-fire training there in July of that year. When Kryscuk was arrested in October 2020, Black Lives Matter co-founder Alicia Garza disclosed that the FBI notified her that her name was on a list found at Kryscuk’s home.

While the broad outlines of the plot by BSN have been known for some time, testimony by a special agent with the Naval Criminal Investigation Service, or NCIS, that has not been previously reported provides additional detail about members of the terror network, its targets and tactics discussed to carry out the campaign.


Testifying during Mauro’s detention hearing in Wilmington, NC in August 2021, Special Agent Chris Little told Chief District Judge Richard E. Myers II that a former police officer described to him how the group discussed the Metcalf sniper attack, in which six individuals with AK-47 assault rifles shot out 17 transformers at a substation near San Jose, Calif. that provided electricity to Silicon Valley, as a model for the attack the group hoped to carry out.


Joseph Zacharek, the witness who described the discussion to Little, joined BSN in the fall of 2017 and remained involved until October 2020, when Kryscuk and Collins were arrested by the FBI, Little told the court. Little also told the court that Zacharek, whom he identified by his last name, was a police officer.


A former Army tank crewman, Zacharek joined the Lafayette Police Department in Indiana as a probationary recruit in June 2020, as a wave of protests against racist policing prompted by the murder of George Floyd swept the country. On Oct. 16, 2020, an antifascist researcher doxed Zacharek, revealing that he was a member of Iron March, the same neo-Nazi online forum where Collins and Kryscuk had met. In his bio for Iron March, Zacharek reportedly claimed an interest “in (National Socialist) economics as a way of throwing off the chains of usury and Jewish owned banking,” while reportedly sharing on the site: “It wasn’t until I started working as an EMT in the inner city that I openly questioned the view that all races are equal.”

Within 24 hours of the dox, the Lafayette Police Department announced that Zacharek had been fired.


What was unknown at the time was that Zacharek was also involved with the neo-Nazi terror network set up by Collins and Kryscuk. Although the two men had been indicted on Oct. 14, it would be another eight days before the charges were unveiled.


During the August 2021 hearing, Little testified that Zacharek exchanged text messages with Duncan about how he was going to handle getting doxed.

“Mr. Duncan appeared to be encouraging him to get to Boise, and that’s what Mr. Duncan understood the plan to be,” Little testified. “And it — from being able to communicate with Mr. Zacharek, that stressed him out. He became scared and concerned at that point of being — because of being publicly outed and what that meant within the group.

“He was afraid that the group would think he had talked or given information to law enforcement, and he feared retribution,” Little added.

Law enforcement found Zacharek at his parents’ home in upstate New York around the same time Kryscuk, Collins and Duncan were arrested, Little testified. He began cooperating with law enforcement immediately.

Little also told the court about a Marine named Maxwell Womack, who began providing information about BSN to the FBI and the NCIS in October 2020. Womack had served in the same Marine Corps unit as Collins and Hermanson, and was recruited into the group by the two men, Little testified. Womack has not been charged.

Little testified that Zacharek’s description of the group’s discussion of attacks on the power grid was corroborated by Womack’s description of a video reenactment made by members of BSN.

Charging documents also reference another unindicted co-conspirator identified by the initials “TC.” Little said he reviewed a photograph in which the image of Kryscuk, Duncan, Maurino and “TC” standing together was superimposed on a panoramic view of a large electrical tower. And according to the indictment, Kryscuk passed on information collected by Duncan about explosives to “TC,” and encouraged him to build explosive devices.

Little told the court that “TC” is Collins’ juvenile younger brother. During the same hearing in August 2018, Damon Chetson, the lawyer representing Maurino, said “TC” was facing state charges in Rhode Island.

During the summer of 2020, the government alleges, the neo-Nazi terror cell stalked Black Lives Matter in Boise and openly discussed acting out violent fantasies. The plans to attack the power grid were specifically tied to BSN’s antagonism towards Black Lives Matter, Little told the court.

Little testified about text messages he reviewed in which Kryscuk said he had torn down BLM fliers and wanted to replace it with BSN’s propaganda. According to Little, Maurino suggested a slogan: “The lights go out and so do you.”

“This is significant to me because of the statements made by Mr. Hermanson regarding how the group discussed the use of power outages in their — what he described as operations,” Little testified. “This would be creating an outage that diverts the police, causes chaos from the outage itself, causes damage to equipment, takes a long time to replace and causes an outage of significant length; and then using that to create a favorable operating environment to conduct an assassination or murder of specific person.”

Little testified that Kryscuk carried an envelope with a list of intersections that coincided with power substations in Boise; Portland, Ore., Seattle, San Francisco and other locations in California, along with a fuel depot. On the other side of the envelope, he had written the names of 12-14 individuals, Little said. Kryscuk had screenshots of the addresses for some of the targets, Little testified. One of the addresses, in San Francisco, was “in close proximity” to multiple power substations on the first list.

While the national leadership of Black Lives Matter has previously been identified as a target of the assassination plot, Little also testified that the list included the governor of Oregon, who is Kate Brown, and other local and state politicians. During the hearing, Chetson said one of the targets was an Associated Press reporter.

“I believe it’s a, we’re going to us this to accelerate the fall and make it happen,” Little told the court. “I see that as just from the consistent ideology within the group as far as accelerating and creating that, by using these types of operations to create that kind of chaos, but I do not know of a specific date that was set to do it.”

The FBI did not arrest Hermanson until January 2021 and Maurino until June 2021. Both appear to have provided information to investigators following the arrests of their co-defendants Collins, Kryscuk and Duncan in October 2020.

Following his arrest in New Jersey on state firearms charges, Maurino admitted to an FBI agent during an Oct. 23, 2020 interview that he was “Bishop,” the code name he used in encrypted chats with other BSN members, Chetson said. His lawyer added that Maurino was scheduled to serve at a mass vaccination site in January 2021, but he was administratively discharged from the National Guard after his officers learned about the FBI investigation.

“In February — or March rather — the government simultaneously is engaging in interviews with Hermanson,” Chetson told the court. “They have a conversation with Mr. Hermanson back in October and I think he’s in Okinawa. During that — they spell out for him, you know, you know you can help yourself. Mr. Hermanson begins talking to the government…. Mr. Hermanson tells them things about my client, I’m assuming.”

Consistent with Chetson’s account, much of Little’s testimony during the August 2021 hearing cited Hermanson, who pleaded guilty earlier this month to a single charge of conspiracy to illegally manufacture and transport firearms.

Little testified that he asked Hermanson about the list of assassination targets. Hermanson told the investigator, according to Little’s testimony, that Kryscuk made comments to the group — including Zacharek, the probationary police officer — “that for the group to accomplish their goals, people would have to die.” Asked how they would carry out the murders, according to Little, Hermanson said that Kryscuk told them: “Don’t worry about it. I have a list of 12 to 14 people that we will check off the list.” Or he said, “We will check them off the list.”

Little also testified that, according to Hermanson, he and Kryscuk extensively discussed techniques for using car bombs to carry out assassinations.

Little also testified that Hermanson told him about a plot by the group to infiltrate a New Jersey National Guard armory using Maurino’s uniform and identification card so they could steal M240s, which are belt-fed machine guns that require two people to operate. Collins, BSN’s leader, told Hermanson, according to Little, “that there were two guards that they would need to kill to gain access.” In September 2020, a month before his arrest, Collins traveled from Camp Lejeune in North Carolina to Maurino’s house in New Jersey, although Little said he did not know the reason for the visit.

The purpose of Special Agent Little’s testimony in August 2021 was to support the government’s request to hold Maurino in pre-trial detention.

Little testified that he was concerned about Maurino’s potential access to weapons, adding that there were a number of firearms components like a folding stock lower and lower receivers without serial numbers mentioned by Maurino in encrypted Signal chats that had not been recovered.

But Judge Myers, a Trump appointee, made light of some of the government’s evidence — a chat from a Signal thread that Little described as a list of weapons possessed by Maurino.

“I’ll need a list of ammo to get, and then, I got seven Mack 11s,” Assistant US Attorney Barbara Kocher recited. “And then my copy is illegible. To the right, it says, about eight, I think 38s, nine 9s.”

Following Little’s testimony, Judge Myers said, “I’ve got a follow-up question about the Biggie Smalls lyric.”

Both Kocher and Little said they were unfamiliar with the lyrics.


“There’s a lot of other stuff going on here, but that particular one is not compelling,” Myers said. “So, I’ll pass that on for what it’s worth.”


Myers ordered Maurino released to home incarceration in the custody of his mother, later modified to home detention, based on the observation that the defendant had given no indications that he posed a flight risk or a danger to the community in the eight months prior to his arrest when he knew he was under investigation.

As a final accommodation, Judge Myers granted Maurino’s request to travel next week to an Italian restaurant in Old Bridge, NJ to celebrate a christening for the child of his cousin.

As in, the updates are friends of the neighborhood, not the Nazis. You know what I mean, leave me alone!


One day this internal screaming will stop. One day.

 

[Agema]

I've reread this a couple of times and still have no idea what you're on about.

Andrew Yang is a US entrepreneur and wannabe politician, Democrat turned independent. He had a plan for a sort of UBI worth $2000. From this, I would surmise Gergar is criticising Yang's economic vision as merely subsiding the poor whilst corporate bosses (dictators) are left free to rampantly exploit them.

Not sure on the next bit about China and oligarchs.

The last bit presumably refers to the Burning Man festival, which is a wanky, cod-pagan, eco-bollocks festival for fashionable rich people who want to Instagram how much they care about the environment and how creative they are rather than do practical but inconvenient things like cut down their plane travel. Think also tech bros who carp on about giving people freedom and community via their profitable IT venture, but won't pay their staff properly or work towards their city having affordable housing.

 

[Silvanus]

Andrew Yang is a US entrepreneur and wannabe politician, Democrat turned independent. He had a plan for a sort of UBI worth $2000. From this, I would surmise Gergar is criticising Yang's economic vision as merely subsiding the poor whilst corporate bosses (dictators) are left free to rampantly exploit them.

Not sure on the next bit about China and oligarchs.

The last bit presumably refers to the Burning Man festival, which is a wanky, cod-pagan, eco-bollocks festival for fashionable rich people who want to Instagram how much they care about the environment and how creative they are rather than do practical but inconvenient things like cut down their plane travel. Think also tech bros who carp on about giving people freedom and community via their profitable IT venture, but won't pay their staff properly or work towards their city having affordable housing.

I kinda gathered it had something to do with UBI and the music festival stuff. But it just hopped from thought to thought like a William Burroughs novel, and the bit about peeing in a bottle was really out of left-field.

 

[XsjadoBlayde]

This is healthy and fine.

The JFK QAnon Cult Is Finally Collapsing: ‘Shit’s Falling Apart’

Their latest conspiracy is that the Ukraine war is part of a plan to replace Joe Biden with JFK, who is disguised as former president Donald Trump.

www.vice.com

The QAnon cult that gathered in Dallas towards the end of 2021, which, among other things, believes that former president Donald Trump is simply John F. Kennedy in disguise, is finally beginning to fall apart.

Five months ago, hundreds of followers of QAnon figure Michael Protzman traveled from all corners of the country to Dallas, where they were told that John F. Kennedy, along with this wife Jackie and son JFK Jr., would suddenly reappear at Dealey Plaza, the site of JFK’s 1963 assassination.

When that didn’t happen, many returned home, but a core group of believers remained in Dallas still in thrall to Protzman, known online as Negative 48, who continued to predict JFK’s return based on a bastardized version of the Jewish numerology system known as Gematria.

Despite his repeated failed predictions, Protzman’s followers remained loyal and in the following five months donated tens of thousands of dollars to pay for the group’s accommodation, food, and travel.

Protzman’s predictions have torn families apart, leading husbands to divorce wives and children to disown parents. Followers have also been left destitute after donating all their money to the group. Protzman has claimed that a coming “global reset” will wipe out all their debts.

The latest conspiracy the group has clung to is that the Ukraine war is part of a plan to uncover President Joe Biden’s criminality and replace him with JFK, who is very much alive and hiding in plain sight, disguised as former President Donald Trump.

In recent months, the group has traveled to multiple Trump rallies in Arizona, Texas, and South Carolina, and most recently, it joined the trucker convoy circling Washington DC.

But now, cracks are beginning to appear.

The group has dwindled in size from over 100 to just over a few dozen, and in recent weeks the group has split into at least three factions, with each splinter group making wild allegations against the others. Several members of these groups are armed, and some have made threats of violence against members of other groups.

“I think we’re slowly getting to the point where it's going to end,” Karma, an open-source researcher who has tracked this cult closely since its inception, told VICE News.

As the group unravels, the language and imagery it’s using are also becoming increasingly extreme. On Monday, one of the group’s more prominent members, a rapper known as Pryme Minister, posted images of himself and Protzman making a Nazi salute.


Protzman didn’t respond to questions about the image, but Pryme Minister—whose real name is Randell Moody—told VICE News that it was done for “just some laughs” and to “make fun of you guys who falsely report us as a cult.”

And yet, despite everything that has happened, virtually all members of the factions remain loyal to Protzman, believing that kicking them out of his group was all part of a larger plan.

Moody and most of the core group are currently in Florida, according to Karma, while Protzman is in Georgia with a small number of followers. But the group will be meeting up again this weekend with a larger group of supporters when they attend Trump’s latest rally in Commerce, Georgia on Saturday.

There they will be joined by one of the splinter groups, which is led by a woman called Shelly, who was one of Protzman’s most loyal lieutenants until Protzman suddenly kicked her out earlier this month.

The decision to kick her out of the group came as a huge shock to many, as she was seen as Protzman’s most trusted advisor. While it wasn’t revealed at the time, in a video posted to Telegram weeks later, Protzman claimed he kicked Shelly out because money that had been donated to her Venmo account to cover the group’s expenses was, Protzman claimed, withdrawn by her husband.

This was revealed in a video posted on Telegram of the pair facing off when they met at Trump’s rally in South Carolina earlier this month.

The video was posted by former Hollywood actor Stephen Tenner, another prominent follower of Protzman, who was also kicked out of the main group last month and subsequently joined Shelly’s breakaway group.

Soon after, Tenner was removed and began attacking the remaining members of his inner circle, Protzman posted photos showing Tenner with his nieces to the Negative 48 channel, along with allegations that Tenner was a pedophile.

Protzman’s group has been dismissed by the wider QAnon community because its predictions have been too wild even for a group that believes a cabal of pedophiles is trafficking children around the world to drink their blood. However, it has attempted to ingratiate itself into the wider MAGA world in recent months.

This has included visits from former Trump advisor Roger Stone and current MAGA Senate candidate in Oklahoma Jackson Laymeyer. It has also been photographed with QAnon royalty and current Arizona congressional candidate Ron Watkins at a Trump rally, and in recent weeks it followed the trucker convoy as it made its way to DC.

The group has also sought to expand its reach by trying to recruit children to the cause. In recent weeks several children as young as 12 have been speaking on Protzman’s Telegram channel, and earlier this month one of them conducted a Gematria class for other children, attempting to indoctrinate other children into the group’s beliefs.

Despite all these efforts, the group is losing followers both in real life and on its Telegram channels. All fundraising efforts have been cut off thanks to the work of researchers and the group’s family members who have alerted platforms like Venmo to what was happening.


“There is a lot going on right now, but shit’s falling apart,” Karma said.

 

[Gergar12]

I kinda gathered it had something to do with UBI and the music festival stuff. But it just hopped from thought to thought like a William Burroughs novel, and the bit about peeing in a bottle was really out of left-field.

I am saying Andrew Yang's anti-Asian hatred talks are misleading just like the anti-Russian hate if you are not a celebrity, business owner, or an oligrach your fine for the most part. And in a real war involving China or Russia, angry US citizens likely won't target random Asians or even Chinese Americans they will target the people who are actually ruining their lives. The foreign oligarchs are part of the reason that their housing market is increasing, their elites support militarism, and they are just bad people.

And I doubt it will even go that far, I bet the only thing that will be done is the US government seizes the assets of the foreign oligarchs like they are doing now, and how does that harm me, oh wait it doesn't.

Andrew Yang thinks all Asians or at least Chinese Americans are going into camps like the Japanese internment camps, wrong, some of his rich Asian friends may get their assets seized, but I bet you wealthy western investments in Alibaba would face the same seizure, so it evens out globally in the end. Hopefully, they seized the houses first, and give them to the homeless, and working poor.

 

[Silvanus]

I am saying Andrew Yang's anti-Asian hatred talks are misleading just like the anti-Russian hate if you are not a celebrity, business owner, or an oligrach your fine for the most part. And in a real war involving China or Russia, angry US citizens likely won't target random Asians or even Chinese Americans they will target the people who are actually ruining their lives. The foreign oligarchs are part of the reason that their housing market is increasing, their elites support militarism, and they are just bad people.

And I doubt it will even go that far, I bet the only thing that will be done is the US government seizes the assets of the foreign oligarchs like they are doing now, and how does that harm me, oh wait it doesn't.

Andrew Yang thinks all Asians or at least Chinese Americans are going into camps like the Japanese internment camps, wrong, some of his rich Asian friends may get their assets seized, but I bet you wealthy western investments in Alibaba would face the same seizure, so it evens out globally in the end. Hopefully, they seized the houses first, and give them to the homeless, and working poor.

But there has been a fairly significant rise in hate crime targeting Asian-Americans in the US. That's a fact.

Where Andrew Yang goes wrong isn't in pointing out a problem that does exist. It's that his proposed solutions are shallow and performative.

 

[Thaluikhain]

I am saying Andrew Yang's anti-Asian hatred talks are misleading just like the anti-Russian hate if you are not a celebrity, business owner, or an oligrach your fine for the most part. And in a real war involving China or Russia, angry US citizens likely won't target random Asians or even Chinese Americans they will target the people who are actually ruining their lives.

After 9/11 there were lots of hate crimes against Muslims in the US (and elsewhere), and also against Sikhs because they apparently look like Muslims. And it's not Barack Obama being shot for being in the wrong neighboorhoods, it's poor black people who never got to be PotUS.

So, no, there'd be even more random attacks on people of Chinese descent (and anyone else asian because people won't care enough to check that).

 

[Trunkage]

 

[Agema]

This is healthy and fine.

Any profession tends to be done by people who want to do that job from their passion, enjoyment and self-betterment.

This can be a problem in politics, because people who are very passionate about politics are often cranks with nothing better to do. It is also why political parties can be problematic, because political party membership tends to over-represent the politically passionate (extremists and cranks), who then both provide and select candidates for their party. This representation of their membership above all else often means policy can be more extreme than their own voter base, never mind the wider population. Even the voter base often doesn't really notice because they're much less passionate about politics so not paying attention, or they're a "captive" to the party's extremism who have to go along with it as there's no better option.

It's this sort of reason the saying exists that the best people to be given political power are the ones who don't want to have political power.

 

[BrawlMan]

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[Gergar12]

But there has been a fairly significant rise in hate crime targeting Asian-Americans in the US. That's a fact.

Where Andrew Yang goes wrong isn't in pointing out a problem that does exist. It's that his proposed solutions are shallow and performative.

After 9/11 there were lots of hate crimes against Muslims in the US (and elsewhere), and also against Sikhs because they apparently look like Muslims. And it's not Barack Obama being shot for being in the wrong neighboorhoods, it's poor black people who never got to be PotUS.

So, no, there'd be even more random attacks on people of Chinese descent (and anyone else asian because people won't care enough to check that).

I disagree, no one is targeting Russians right now. And the attacks are mostly sporadic, and often done by people with significant mental health problems who already hate Asians and whites due to social, and economic factors.

The US government will likely sanction Chinese government assets, and their allies' assets, and that's fine by me. Also, how can you tell an Asian from a Chinese person, you mostly can't just like you mostly cannot tell a Russian person from someone who is Eastern European or even white.

Andrew Yang likes to engage in hyperbole to put me in the same boat as his rich Asian friends who are afraid of their assets being seized.

 

[Buyetyen]

I disagree, no one is targeting Russians right now. And the attacks are mostly sporadic, and often done by people with significant mental health problems who already hate Asians and whites due to social, and economic factors.

As someone with mental health issues, we're not your convenient scapegoat.

Also, how can you tell an Asian from a Chinese person, you mostly can't just like you mostly cannot tell a Russian person from someone who is Eastern European or even white.

Because bigots are always so exacting in their hate.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Also, how can you tell an Asian from a Chinese person, you mostly can't just like you mostly cannot tell a Russian person from someone who is Eastern European or even white.

After 9/11, hate crimes also jumped up against Sikhs, because they are brown, wear turbans, and frequently have accents. Had a Sikh trucker complain to me about it when he was a bit into his cups well more than a decade after. Similarly, hate crimes are up against anybody who looks vaguely pale skinned Asian, not just the Chinese, and we're already getting reports of Ukrainian businesses getting attacked. The US is intensely xenophobic as soon as anybody rocks the boat.

Not that it would be any better if racists were good at picking targets: the Muslim truckers aren't the sort of people planning terror attacks either, Chinese Americans don't typically carry water for the CCCP or engage in bio-terrorism, and Russian exchange students and vtubers haven't invaded Ukraine, so...