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So I don't know if this has been brought up yet but since it's pretty high on the "WTF right winger?" list I figured I'd throw it out.

Basically, for those not aware, the movie Turning Red is a Disney film set in 2002 Toronto Canada that is centered around a girl just hitting puberty and finds out there's a family "Curse" that all the females in her family turn into "were-red Pandas" when excited or anxious...and being a 13 year old just hitting puberty guess what the conflict of this movie is? Oh, and there's also a boy band that she and her friends, being 13 year old girls, are totally into that's coming to town. You can guess how the movie works from here. It's hardly the first take on the idea that lycanthropy and puberty are inherently connected, though this is probably the most colorful and optimistic take on it that I'm aware of. It's like the Polar opposite of "Ginger Snaps".

So basically some youtuber with a degree in dumbass asked "Why is 9/11 never mentioned in this film? It only happened a year before." and yeah, the internet dunking came Swift upon him for being an idiot who doesn't quite understand what the movie was or not understanding why a Canadian 13 year old wouldn't be obsessing about 9/11 a year after it happened(especially with the whole Panda/Puberty thing going on). Fuck, I'm an American who was almost 20 when 9/11 happended and I was fucking sick of hearing about 9/11 before 2002 had even gotten off the ground. Because certain people in the media and politics wouldn't FUCKING SHUT UP ABOUT IT!

So that's something.
How does that movie piss off certain flavors of conservatives, let me count the ways:
  1. The whole puberty/lycanthropy analogy.
  2. Playing the puberty thing straight for a bit, weirdly involving the girl's mom freaking out thinking her daughter has hit menarche as opposed to the whole magical giant red panda transformation thing.
  3. The whole story centering around a Chinese-Canadian family who have the issues of both not being white and not being from the US.
  4. The panda-sealing ritual that all the girls go through that locks their panda in a piece of jewelry thus suppressing their lycanthropy is not just decidedly non-Christian but is not connected to anything of European decent.
As far as guessing the movie based only on what you wrote, I'm pretty sure most wouldn't guess "girl's mom releases her panda which is kaiju-scale instead of dire bear sized like the others" as a thing to predict. It is of course foreshadowed well enough, though (at least I think so, my scale for measuring foreshadowing is kinda broken due to UNSONG).

Like dude(not you, the people whining about this shit), if you don't want to watch the Red Panda movie, don't watch the Red Panda movie. It's okay, there's plenty other kids movies to choose from. No one is gonna care if you said "This movie doesn't appeal to me" and didn't watch it and told your kids it was behind the disney paywall or something.
This of course only applies when the people offended by it are on the right. If the people offended are more progressive, then it absolutely needs to be changed and it's not possible to merely not watch it - the mere existence of the offensive content is harmful and needs to be ended.

Julian Assange is set to be extradited to the United States by the United Kingdom for the crime of obtaining and publishing evidence of war crimes by the United States.
...and no one was surprised. Including Assange. Like, the literal reason he was holed up in the embassy for those years was because he didn't want to be extradited to Sweden because it would be used as a pretense to put him in US hands. He was actually arrested for breaching bail by the UK, and *that* was used as pretense to hand him over to the US instead.

Hang on, I've seen episodes of Law and Order SVU that start like this.
I've also seen an episode of that show where they caught the serial rapist and by the end of the episode they were apologizing that they couldn't give her a better deal than a single count of trespassing.
 

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This of course only applies when the people offended by it are on the right. If the people offended are more progressive, then it absolutely needs to be changed and it's not possible to merely not watch it - the mere existence of the offensive content is harmful and needs to be ended.
Well, yeah, when circumstances are different, circumstances are different. Not a shock

There's plenty of weird but harmless conservative media out there that doesn't get more than an eye roll at worst.
 

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Not usually a fan of that kind of animation, but the dude does a pretty good job at horror with it regardless.
 

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that movie piss off certain flavors of conservatives, let me count the ways:
  1. The whole puberty/lycanthropy analogy.
  2. Playing the puberty thing straight for a bit, weirdly involving the girl's mom freaking out thinking her daughter has hit menarche as opposed to the whole magical giant red panda transformation thing.
  3. The whole story centering around a Chinese-Canadian family who have the issues of both not being white and not being from the US.
  4. The panda-sealing ritual that all the girls go through that locks their panda in a piece of jewelry thus suppressing their lycanthropy is not just decidedly non-Christian but is not connected to anything of European decent.
As far as guessing the movie based only on what you wrote, I'm pretty sure most wouldn't guess "girl's mom releases her panda which is kaiju-scale instead of dire bear sized like the others" as a thing to predict. It is of course foreshadowed well enough, though (at least I think so, my scale for measuring foreshadowing is kinda broken due to UNSONG).
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How does that movie piss off certain flavors of conservatives, let me count the ways:
  1. The whole puberty/lycanthropy analogy.
  2. Playing the puberty thing straight for a bit, weirdly involving the girl's mom freaking out thinking her daughter has hit menarche as opposed to the whole magical giant red panda transformation thing.
  3. The whole story centering around a Chinese-Canadian family who have the issues of both not being white and not being from the US.
  4. The panda-sealing ritual that all the girls go through that locks their panda in a piece of jewelry thus suppressing their lycanthropy is not just decidedly non-Christian but is not connected to anything of European decent.
As far as guessing the movie based only on what you wrote, I'm pretty sure most wouldn't guess "girl's mom releases her panda which is kaiju-scale instead of dire bear sized like the others" as a thing to predict. It is of course foreshadowed well enough, though (at least I think so, my scale for measuring foreshadowing is kinda broken due to UNSONG).
The Kaiju thing is kind of a twist but the circumstances leading up to it AKA the boyband concert falling on the same night as the ritual could have been sussed out well in advance because of course they fall on the same night.

This of course only applies when the people offended by it are on the right. If the people offended are more progressive, then it absolutely needs to be changed and it's not possible to merely not watch it - the mere existence of the offensive content is harmful and needs to be ended.
You act like this is something unique to progressives. Fuck, the governor of Florida apparently just decided that Disney is the enemy now because....they're pretending to care about gays, as opposed to overlooking Chinese suppression of minorities so they can make movies in China, treating their workers like crap, abusing copyright laws to protect their own IP, etc. Cancel Culture is something the right is quite familiar with, they just don't call it that when they're doing it.
 
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The Kaiju thing is kind of a twist but the circumstances leading up to it AKA the boyband concert falling on the same night as the ritual could have been sussed out well in advance because of course they fall on the same night.



You act like this is something unique to progressives. Fuck, the governor of Florida apparently just decided that Disney is the enemy now because....they're pretending to care about gays, as opposed to overlooking Chinese suppression of minorities so they can make movies in China, treating their workers like crap, abusing copyright laws to protect their own IP, etc. Cancel Culture is something the right is quite familiar with, they just don't call it that when they're doing it.
Can we maybe distinguish between Pixar and Disney?

Pixar was the one pushing Disney to stop supporting the 'Don't Say Gay' bill. All Disney did was kept it's money. They did the bare minimum

Disney does not give two shits about gay, trans or racial stuff. They regularly still interfere with artist who do. They still act exactly like how DeSantis pretends we should treat minorities (the problem being that DeSantis isn't doing what he's pretending)
 

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Can we maybe distinguish between Pixar and Disney?

Pixar was the one pushing Disney to stop supporting the 'Don't Say Gay' bill. All Disney did was kept it's money. They did the bare minimum

Disney does not give two shits about gay, trans or racial stuff. They regularly still interfere with artist who do. They still act exactly like how DeSantis pretends we should treat minorities (the problem being that DeSantis isn't doing what he's pretending)
I mean, I kind of alluded to that when I said "Disney is PRETENDING to care about gay people". I'm not taking Disney's side here because they're pretty scummy. The fact Disney gets a special district in florida to run is pretty fucky in itself.

It's just for all the reasons to hate on Disney(and there are many), this is one of the dumbest.
 

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  1. The panda-sealing ritual that all the girls go through that locks their panda in a piece of jewelry thus suppressing their lycanthropy is not just decidedly non-Christian but is not connected to anything of European decent.
Can it be lycanthropy if it's a were-panda? Surely it would be something more like arktanthropy.
 

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Can it be lycanthropy if it's a were-panda? Surely it would be something more like arktanthropy.
Despite the fact Lycanthropy is derived from a story about a man becoming a wolf, I'm pretty sure it's a used as a catch-all for any "Were-"ism at this point.

Honestly, it's one of those words that doesn't get used right and pretty much nobody notices/cares. Minotaur literally means "Bull of Minos"(and boy is the story behind that is kinda gross ) not "Bull-man" and apparently "Centaur" also has something to do with bulls despite being "horse-men"(apparently it's unclear how).

Also, another word from the ancient world, Decimation" gets misused all the time. It doesn't mean "Obliterate". Iit means "Reduce by 1/10th or 10%" because Roman Legions would sometimes use it as a punishment that 1 of every 10 soldiers would be executed by their comrades. Normally a punishment for fleeing or cowderice in battle. Apparently this was only used very sparingly because it was really bad for morale.

Thank you for attending my TED Talk about how we go from "Were-Panda" to "Roman Execution methods".
 
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Honestly, it's one of those words that doesn't get used right and pretty much nobody noticed. Minotaur literally means "Bull of Minos" not "Bull-man" and apparently "Centaur" also has something to do with bulls despite being "horse-men"(apparently it's unclear how).
Centaurs were noted archers. So they probably hunted cattle by shooting them with arrows: thus, centaur. There is a theory centaurs are probably a mythologised representation of horse archers from a Greek culture that didn't at that time ride horses. And even when the ancient Greeks learnt horseriding they were pretty bad at it, hence all that famous infantry warfare with hoplites.

In Greek myth, there was only one Minotaur, and it was indeed owned by Minos. So that name is pretty sensible.
 

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Did this practice ever stop?

...and no one was surprised. Including Assange. Like, the literal reason he was holed up in the embassy for those years was because he didn't want to be extradited to Sweden because it would be used as a pretense to put him in US hands. He was actually arrested for breaching bail by the UK, and *that* was used as pretense to hand him over to the US instead.
Surprise isn't really the point.
 

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Also, another word from the ancient world, Decimation" gets misused all the time. It doesn't mean "Obliterate". Iit means "Reduce by 1/10th or 10%" because Roman Legions would sometimes use it as a punishment that 1 of every 10 soldiers would be executed by their comrades. Normally a punishment for fleeing or cowderice in battle. Apparently this was only used very sparingly because it was really bad for morale.
Despite the name, they sometimes killed 1 in 5 rather than 1 in 10.

Also, epicure and sycophant are words with very different modern meanings, while we are at it.
 
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It's important to note that when the dictionary doesn't validate your out of date archaic presumptions, you can just do terrorism against the dictionary


California Man Arrested and Charged with Making Threats Against LGBTQ Community

Defendant allegedly targeted Springfield-based Merriam-Webster, Inc. and other institutions and individuals with threats to commit anti-LGBTQ violence


BOSTON – A California man was arrested on Tuesday, April 20, 2022 and charged in federal court in Springfield, Mass. in connection with making threats against Merriam-Webster, Inc.

Jeremy David Hanson, 34, of Rossmoor, Calif., was charged by criminal complaint with one count of interstate communication of threats to commit violence. Hanson was released on conditions following an initial appearance in federal court in the Central District of California. Hanson will appear before U.S. District Court Magistrate Judge Katherine A. Robertson in federal court in Springfield on April 29, 2022.

“Hate-filled threats and intimidations have no place in our society,” said United States Attorney Rachael S. Rollins. “We believe Hanson sent a multitude of anonymous threatening and despicable messages related to the LGBTQ community that were intended to evoke fear and division. My office and our law enforcement partners will not tolerate threats against members of our communities, no matter what corner of the internet they’re sent from. Perpetrators will be identified, arrested, and held accountable in federal court.”

“Jeremy Hanson is accused of making hate-fueled threats of violence that crossed a line,” said Joseph R. Bonavolonta, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI Boston Division. “Everyone has a right to express their opinion, but repeatedly threatening to kill people, as has been alleged, takes it to a new level. We are always going to pursue individuals who try to intimidate and isolate members of our community by inciting violent, hateful acts. Threats to life are most certainly not protected speech and they cause real fear in victims. Rest assured, the FBI will do everything we can to bring to justice anyone who commits these criminal acts.”

According to the criminal complaint, between Oct. 2 and Oct. 8, 2021, Springfield-based Merriam-Webster, Inc. received various threatening messages and comments demonstrating bias against specific gender identities submitted through its website’s “Contact Us” page and in the comments section on its webpages that corresponded to the word entries for “Girl” and “Woman.” Authorities later identified the user as Hanson. As a result of the threats, Merriam-Webster closed its offices in Springfield and New York City for approximately five business days.

Specifically, it is alleged that on Oct. 2, 2021, Hanson used the handle “@anonYmous” to post the following comment on the dictionary’s website definition of “female”: “It is absolutely sickening that Merriam-Webster now tells blatant lies and promotes anti-science propaganda. There is no such thing as ‘gender identity.’ The imbecile who wrote this entry should be hunted down and shot.”

Hanson also allegedly sent the following threatening message via the website’s “Contact Us” page: “You [sic] headquarters should be shot up and bombed. It is sickening that you have caved to the cultural Marxist, anti-science tranny [sic] agenda and altered the definition of ‘female’ as part of the Left’s efforts to corrupt and degrade the English language and deny reality. You evil Marxists should all be killed. It would be poetic justice to have someone storm your offices and shoot up the place, leaving none of you commies alive.”

It is further alleged that on Oct. 8, 2021, Hanson posted another threatening comment on the dictionary’s website and a threatening message via the “Contact Us” page that threatened to “bomb your offices for lying and creating fake…”.

The investigation identified numerous related threats, including to the American Civil Liberties Union, Amnesty International, Land O’ Lakes, Hasbro, Inc., IGN Entertainment, the President of the University of North Texas, two professors at Loyola Marymount University and a New York City rabbi.

Individuals or entities who believe they may be victims of this crime should contact the U.S. Attorney’s Office at (888) 221-6023.

The charge of interstate transmission of communications to injure the person of another provides for a sentence of up to five years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. Sentences are imposed by a federal district court judge based upon the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and statutes which govern the determination of a sentence in a criminal case.

U.S. Attorney Rollins and FBI SAC Bonavolonta made the announcement. Assistant U.S. Attorney Steven H. Breslow of Rollins’ Springfield Branch Office is prosecuting the case.

The details contained in the charging document are allegations. The defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.
More shootings cause this is the main defining pillar of american culture now


WASHINGTON, D.C.—A suspect in shootings that left four people wounded on Friday was found dead of suicide in an apartment, along with an arsenal of weapons, a sniper-style setup, and a large quantity of ammunition, authorities said.

It appears the suspected gunman—whose name had not been officially released by authorities—livestreamed the terrifying incident, filmed from his perspective, on social media.

“His intent was to kill and hurt members of our community,” D.C. Police Chief Robert Contee said.

“It just appears that this person was just shooting at anyone who was out there randomly.”

Patricia Termini was at the nearby Edmund Burke School to pick up a student when she heard gunfire and jumped back into her car to avoid being shot. Still, she was grazed by a round as she sheltered inside the vehicle.

“I was waiting in the alley, and all of a sudden there was a burst of what I thought were explosions,” Termini, who is in her mid-60s, told NBC Washington. “And then the second burst came, and I laid down in my car, and I called the people whose kid I was picking up, and I said, ‘There’s some explosions or a bomb. I don’t know if it’s shootings or what,’” she said. “And at that point a bullet came from behind me and it grazed my shoulder, and I got up, and at that point I said to myself, ‘I need to get out of here.’”

The terrifying drama unfolded Friday afternoon near the Edmund Burke private prep school and the University of the District of Columbia.

Police say two women, a man, and a 12-year-old were wounded by bullets. In the hours after, authorities said they were searching for a person of interest: Raymond Spencer, 23, of Fairfax, Virginia.

Three law enforcement officials with knowledge of the investigation told The Washington Post on Friday night that investigators are analyzing online postings they believe Spencer may have left behind. A user with the same name had written on 4chan, “Dear God please forgive me,” followed by one after the shooting that said, “They’re in the wrong part of the building right now searching XD.” A third and final message, posted at 3:36 p.m., read, “Waiting for police to catch up with me.”

“We believe that the suspect took his own life as MPD members were entering or breaching the apartment where the suspect was located,” Contee said. The suspect was reportedly found dead in the bathroom of the apartment.

In a photo of the apartment released by the Metro PD, a picture can be seen on the wall of a figure that resembles Yakub, a mythical Black scientist popularized by Nation of Islam founder Elijah Muhammad and mockingly turned into a meme by 4chan denizens.

High school senior Emma Schultz told The Daily Beast she lives in the next apartment over from the shooter. When she heard the shots, she called her father, who was out for a walk, and he told her it was just construction noise.

“And I said, ‘No it’s not,’” Schultz recalled.

She said she rushed out to help and “saw people on the ground.”

Although Spencer lived in apartment 511 and Schultz lives in 512, she said she didn’t know him at all.

“I had no idea who that guy is, I don’t remember seeing him around, ever,” she said. “Other people were saying they’ve seen him before… I guess he’s always inside.”

Schultz told The Daily Beast that the apartment next door where the shooter was had a camera on the left side of the door watching the hallway.

Another building resident who identified himself only as Kenya, lives on the second floor but wasn’t home when the shots rang out.

“I was scared for my roommate,” Kenya told The Daily Beast, saying he was given the option to stay at a hotel this evening as law enforcement officials continue to scour the building for clues.

On Wikipedia, the Edmund Burke School page had been revised Friday afternoon by a user named Raymond Spencer, to read, “A gunman shot at the school on April 22, 2022. The suspect is still at large.” The revision linked to a profile for Spencer, describing him as “proudly uncircumcised” and an “AR-15 aficionado.”

At 11 p.m. Friday, blood could be seen on the street at the scene as investigators worked the area. Metro Police Lt. Jason Bagshaw declined to comment on the investigation when asked for details by The Daily Beast.

Mayor Muriel Bowser, in a statement late Friday, said the city had suffered a “heartbreaking day” after “a person who had no business having a gun got access to one and used it to terrorize a school community.”

“Unfortunately, tonight, I looked into the eyes of parents who were terrified, and they were terrified thinking of what might happen to their children,” she said, adding that two other shootings had taken place in the city even as she met with families rocked by the violence near Edmund Burke School.
 

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Also, epicure and sycophant are words with very different modern meanings, while we are at it.
I disagree on sycophant. It comes from the Greek for "fig-declarer" - which seems kind of weird. The story is that one of the Greek states carried out an agricultural policy where they wanted to economically ruin another, so tried to make their farmers grow (I think) olives. Figs were however valuable, so farmers wanted to carry on growing them. Some people would then shop farmers who grew figs to the authorities: thus, fig declarers.

The modern use of the word is thus consistent with the original: an ingratiating stooge of the powerful.
 

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I disagree on sycophant. It comes from the Greek for "fig-declarer" - which seems kind of weird. The story is that one of the Greek states carried out an agricultural policy where they wanted to economically ruin another, so tried to make their farmers grow (I think) olives. Figs were however valuable, so farmers wanted to carry on growing them. Some people would then shop farmers who grew figs to the authorities: thus, fig declarers.

The modern use of the word is thus consistent with the original: an ingratiating stooge of the powerful.
I thought it was for people bringing up fraudulent or pointless accusations in law courts. But anyway, while your definition is closer to the modern one, I don't think people would end to equate informers with sycophants that much today.
 

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I thought it was for people bringing up fraudulent or pointless accusations in law courts.
It was. But the ancient Greeks had already adapted it for the wider meaning that carries on today. Although I guess you're right that it's different in the distinction that for the Greeks it was more about a person who gets another dragged in front of the courts.
 

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Apparently someone wanted to "shoot and bomb" the Merriam-Webster headquarters because he didn't like how they defined things like "man" and "woman".


It's always hilarious how these people who try to cite science as a source for their hateful viewpoints have absolutely no idea how biology actually works.
 

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It's always hilarious how these people who try to cite science as a source for their hateful viewpoints have absolutely no idea how biology actually works.
Science's predominant position as an arbiter of what is true in today's society has the unfortunate side effect of inducing people to claim science is on their side, irrespective of whether it is.