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Dwarvenhobble

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Most banned books happened due to culture war reasons. Not because they shouldn't be near kids

Maybe, when people do culture war stuff, they should target the right things
They do, you don't hear about those things because a certain side don't kick up a huge stink that little Timmy can't borrow the Anarchists cookbook from his school library and learn to make molotov cocktails
 

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It's there because it's where right wingers want it to be. Because otherwise they'd be arguing against library cards and it outs them as the jackboots they are.
Except it's not right wingers arguing the book must be in a school library. It's a stupid fight to take because really in the present climate and it's only a fight because of blind tribalism occurring such that "We can't let the right wingers win or else [slippery slope fallacy]"
 

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All 2 of them.......

Yes I went back and looked.

Sleeping Beauty and Cinderella were the two before it.




Funny story, you know why it's a white woman playing Vasquez in Aliens? Because no Hispanic women turned up to the audition.

Also you've failed to make an actual argument here, hell you've made a self defeating argument really because new Aerial represents no-one because black women don't have naturally red hair. So how is Aerial representing anyone in the live action version again?
I'm 80% certain they dont have tails either, dipshit. Stop pretending representation has to be all or nothing and let the little girls enjoy a live action poc disney princess.
 

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Except it's not right wingers arguing the book must be in a school library. It's a stupid fight to take because really in the present climate and it's only a fight because of blind tribalism occurring such that "We can't let the right wingers win or else [slippery slope fallacy]"
It literally is just right wingers arguing it. Because the inciting incident doesn't involve a school library literally at all. People like you introduce school libraries in a conversation they don't belong in.

Now why do you hate libraries? That's the actual conversation here, a bunch of right wingers hate libraries in general.
 

Dwarvenhobble

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Not really interested in your reasons for considering it the same. You repeatedly accused me of "lying" when I told you there weren't any genitals and that it was a rubber toy. Gonna walk that back now we know you were just mistaken?
You were lying as you said it showed nothing and are now relying on technicalities and sophistry to try and get out of it.

Love the idea you consider "graphic rape" to be equal in severity to someone consensually putting a rubber dildo in their mouth. Really have to wonder how your mind works to draw that equivalence.
Funny to see where you draw the line. So you aren't really for freedom of access to art then. You're just specifically for this book....hhhhmmmm how odd and how inconsistent you position becomes isn't it?

To answer your question: I wouldn't want a teacher suspended for pointing 14-18 year olds to a library that contained the book. You know, the actual situation that happened.
And to respond to that she quit. The Teacher quit. She wasn't suspended. She quit and threw out a line about being unable and unwilling to work under such restrictions as not being able to let the kids have unsupervised access to said work and others.

Also none of the sources state the age of her class only that she was from a K-12 school which is 4-18.
 

Dwarvenhobble

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I'm 80% certain they dont have tails either, dipshit. Stop pretending representation has to be all or nothing and let the little girls enjoy a live action poc disney princess.
Except it's been a fairly big talking point about representation for a while. Representation of natural hair colours and styles for POC.

Also in case it slipped your mind Aerial doesn't spend the whole film with a Tail you fool
 

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I'm 80% certain they dont have tails either, dipshit. Stop pretending representation has to be all or nothing and let the little girls enjoy a live action poc disney princess.
Considering Gingers represent like 2% of the World population, it's significantly more likely that a mermaid would be Black then GInger, statistically speaking. Then again, Mermaids aren't real so they can look like anything people want them to look like. But having them look like Dr. Zoidberg from futurama apparently isn't as cool as having them be a white girl with a fish tail despite probably being a lot more realistic for something that lives in the ocean.

I'm pretty sure most of those complaining about Black Ariel didn't give a shit about the little mermaid until they found out about the casting, which instantly makes me suspect their motives for doing so.
 
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Dwarvenhobble

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It literally is just right wingers arguing it. Because the inciting incident doesn't involve a school library literally at all. People like you introduce school libraries in a conversation they don't belong in.

Now why do you hate libraries? That's the actual conversation here, a bunch of right wingers hate libraries in general.
Except again part of the reason there is the controversy is the book is banned from being in school libraries. Not public ones. School ones.
 

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I missed this before.

But no, the teacher was not "promoting activist books as must-have in school libraries". This whole incident isn't even about the introduction of books to a school library.

The state introduced legislation that books containing themes that might be offensive or upsetting must be covered. She complied, but also provided a QR code that directed students to the "banned books list", which is a nationally-recognised list and has been for years. It also contained information for applying for a card at the local public library. She was then suspended, and then she resigned.

So: nothing that would even impact the school budget at all. No demanding that books be added. It was a direction to a public library, as well as a link to the banned books list.
And I'm pretty sure if I direct kids to where you can download and read the Anarchists cookbook I'd be suspended from teaching too. Sorry the book was deemed inappropriate dems the rules and you have to teach following them.
 

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Except again part of the reason there is the controversy is the book is banned from being in school libraries. Not public ones. School ones.
She didn't push a book. And nothing about this has anything to do with school libraries. It's a distraction from you hating on public libraries. Why do you hate public libraries?
 

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She didn't push a book. And nothing about this has anything to do with school libraries. It's a distraction from you hating on public libraries. Why do you hate public libraries?
I've made it clear multiple times in multiple posts I'd literally support the book being in public libraries..............

The way this is going I'm going to have to suggest you and others here might need the libraries more to learn to read what's been said as clearly something isn't getting read here or people reading it are actively choosing to ignore what's been said.
 

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It literally is just right wingers arguing it. Because the inciting incident doesn't involve a school library literally at all. People like you introduce school libraries in a conversation they don't belong in.

Now why do you hate libraries? That's the actual conversation here, a bunch of right wingers hate libraries in general.
It's knowledge socialism and something something Jesus patriotism.

I mean, fuck, I've run across republicans who hate mass transit because apparently it makes life too easy for the poors or some such garbage.
 
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All 2 of them.......

Yes I went back and looked.

Sleeping Beauty and Cinderella were the two before it.
Wait... because the cartoon Disney princesses already had 100% of the representation for white people.... they needed more white representation with cartoon Ariel...

What are we even doing? Why would any piece of information need to determine what colour skin cartoon OR live action Ariel?

(Note: it was three, you missed one, Snow White, but I have no idea why two or three would make a difference here)

Let me say this in another way - how many white Disney princesses did we need before they were allowed to make a POC Disney princesses?

We know it's at least 2, because of your statement above
 
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They do, you don't hear about those things because a certain side don't kick up a huge stink that little Timmy can't borrow the Anarchists cookbook from his school library and learn to make molotov cocktails
Here I'll repeat what I said:

Most of the book were banned due to culture war reasons....

If you haven't figured it out, I'll spell it out for you

This means, from what I said, that SOME of the books are rightly banned from school children

No one is complaining about those ones, because, again, they been banned for good reason. What you are hearing about is the one WRONGLY banned. Why would anyone complain about books rightly banned?

This is why you dont hear about those particular books. The Left AGREES with that some books shouldn't be in school children's hands. It's not a conspiracy. It's not wokism. It's not Marxism. Or wharever you've made up. Those books that arent pointed out is what is agreed upon. By both sides

No one is asking to unban every book. Their asking to unban very particular books and leave the rest banned
 

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Wait... because the cartoon Disney princesses already had 100% of the representation for white people.... they needed more white representation with cartoon Ariel...

What are we even doing? Why would any piece of information need to determine what colour skin cartoon OR live action Ariel?

(Note: it was three, you missed one, Snow White, but I have no idea why two or three would make a difference here)

Let me say this in another way - how many white Disney princesses did we need before they were allowed to make a POC Disney princesses?

We know it's at least 2, because of your statement above
In terms of the Princess line directly, the first by my reckoning would have been Jasmine in 1992’s Aladdin, then Pocahontas in 1995 got the movie being about her rather than as the deuteragonist. Before her was Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Maid Marian, Elionway, Ariel and Belle. Then in 1997 there was Esmeralda from Hunchback and Mulan followed in 1998.

After that it’s a mixture with no discernible pattern.
 
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In terms of the Princess line directly, the first by my reckoning would have been Jasmine in 1992’s Aladdin, then Pocahontas in 1995 got the movie being about her rather than as the deuteragonist. Before her was Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Maid Marian, Elionway, Ariel and Belle. Then in 1997 there was Esmeralda from Hunchback and Mulan followed in 1998.

After that it’s a mixture with no discernible pattern.
Look, I don't know how/if Maid Marian should fit in.....

Is she why we have furries now?
 
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