Funny events in anti-woke world


Elite Member
Jan 16, 2010
Idd. Unfortunately it is a bit of an "oh noes" from the profit point of view, losing access to a market for advertising. I think it's likely they'll pay the fine.
Or take every opportunity to tell everyone how they are heroically standing up to them evil Russkies by not paying the fine.
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The Free Marketplace of Realities
Apr 29, 2020
Ah shit.


k, getting a bit relentless now


I said stop


No really


Sheffield?! I give up

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The Free Marketplace of Realities
Apr 29, 2020
Ah shit.

Not. Looking. Good.

A majority of Republican nominees on the ballot this November for the House, Senate and key statewide offices — 299 in all — have denied or questioned the outcome of the last presidential election, according to a Washington Post analysis.

Candidates who have challenged or refused to accept Joe Biden’s victory are running in every region of the country and in nearly every state. Republican voters in four states nominated election deniers in all federal and statewide races The Post examined.

Although some are running in heavily Democratic areas and are expected to lose, most of the election deniers nominated are likely to win: Of the nearly 300 on the ballot, 174 are running for safely Republican seats. Another 51 will appear on the ballot in tightly contested races.

The implications will be lasting: If Republicans take control of the House, as many political forecasters predict, election deniers would hold enormous sway over the choice of the nation’s next speaker, who in turn could preside over the House in a future contested presidential election. The winners of all the races examined by The Post — those for governor, lieutenant governor, secretary of state, attorney general, Senate and House — will hold some measure of power overseeing American elections.

Many of these candidates echo the false claims of former president Donald Trump — claims that have been thoroughly investigated and dismissed by myriad officials and courts. Experts said the insistence on such claims, despite the lack of evidence, reflects a willingness among election-denying candidates to undermine democratic institutions when it benefits their side.

The Post’s count — assembled from public statements, social media posts, and actions taken by the candidates to deny the legitimacy of the last presidential vote — shows how the movement arising from Trump’s thwarted plot to overturn the 2020 election is, in many respects, even stronger two years later. Far from repudiating candidates who embrace Trump’s false fraud claims, GOP primary voters have empowered them.

The issue has dominated in key battlegrounds. In Warren, Mich., on Saturday, Trump campaigned for three statewide candidates, all of them deniers: Tudor Dixon for governor, Matthew DePerno for attorney general and Kristina Karamo for secretary of state.

“I don’t believe we’ll ever have a fair election again,” Trump told the crowd. “I don’t believe it.”
Scholars said the predominance of election deniers in the GOP bears alarming similarities to authoritarian movements in other countries, which often begin with efforts to delegitimize elections. Many of those promoting the stolen-election narrative, they said, know that it is false and are using it to gain power.

“Election denialism is a form of corruption,” said Ruth Ben-Ghiat, the author of “Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present” and a historian at New York University. “The party has now institutionalized this form of lying, this form of rejection of results. So it’s institutionalized illegal activity. These politicians are essentially conspiring to make party dogma the idea that it’s possible to reject certified results.”

In the short term, scholars said, that party dogma is likely to produce multiple election challenges this fall from deniers who lose. It could poison the 2024 presidential race, as well.

“It’s quite possible in 2022 we’re going to have a serious set of challenges before the new Congress is seated, and then this will escalate as we move toward 2024 and another presidential election, in which the candidates, again, almost required by the Trumpians, will be challenging election outcomes,” said Larry Jacobs, a politics professor at the University of Minnesota whose areas of study include legislative politics.

In the longer term, Jacobs said, the country’s democratic foundations are at risk.

“It is a disease that is spreading through our political process, and its implications are very profound,” Jacobs said. “This is no longer about Donald Trump. This is about the entire electoral system and what constitutes legitimate elections. All of that is now up in the air.”

The Post has identified candidates as election deniers if they directly questioned Biden’s victory, opposed the counting of Biden’s electoral college votes, expressed support for a partisan post-election ballot review, signed on to lawsuits seeking to overturn the 2020 result, or attended or expressed support for the Jan. 6, 2021, “Stop the Steal” rally in Washington that preceded the riot at the U.S. Capitol.

Among the 299 are GOP candidates vying to take over from Republicans who, despite overall support for Trump, have refrained from embracing his false narrative of fraud.

For instance, Eric Schmitt, the Missouri attorney general on the ballot for U.S. Senate this fall, was one of 18 Republican attorneys general and 126 House members who signed on to a lawsuit seeking to overturn the popular vote in Pennsylvania. He would replace Roy Blunt, a retiring GOP senator who voted to certify the 2020 election. In a statement explaining the vote at the time, Blunt cited the “more than 90 judges — many of them Republican-appointed, including several nominated by President Trump,” who dismissed attempts by Trump and his allies to prove the 2020 vote was marred by fraud.

Also among the 2022 crop of election-denying candidates are those who actively promoted misinformation. Anna Paulina Luna, the GOP nominee in Florida’s 13th Congressional District, spread unfounded accusations on social media that Dominion Voting Systems equipment rigged the 2020 outcome and expressed support for decertifying Arizona’s result even after a partisan post-election audit found that Biden had indeed won the state.

Some of the election deniers are themselves in line to oversee elections. Diego Morales, the nominee for Indiana secretary of state, declared on Facebook in 2021: “If we count every legal vote, President Trump won this election.” In Indiana, the secretary of state certifies results.

All three of those candidates, and many more like them, are expected to win their November elections, barring major upsets.

“My position is very clear,” Luna said in a statement provided to The Post. “We need to restore faith in the election process and that starts by asking questions on how we can improve election integrity.”

Morales, when asked through a spokesperson whether he continues to view the 2020 result as rigged, offered this statement: “Joe Biden is the legitimate president. He is doing a horrible job, but he is the president.”

Schmitt did not respond to requests for comment. A Trump spokesman also declined to comment.

The Republican fervor to elevate election deniers this midterm cycle comes at a time when pro-Trump allies and activists are continuing to doubt the administration of elections in the U.S., demanding investigations of voter fraud and accusing state and local election officials of rigging races or using fraudulent voting equipment.

The convergence of those forces as the November election draws near raises the chances that some of the candidates who don’t win, along with their allies, are likely to question their defeats. A dozen Republican candidates in competitive races for governor and Senate queried last month by The Post declined to say whether they would accept the results of their contests.

That, in turn, means that another close presidential contest in 2024 could produce even more chaos than what the country lived through in the aftermath of the 2020 vote, when pro-Trump rioters ransacked the Capitol. More officials may be willing to try to thwart the popular vote, potentially delaying results, undermining confidence in the democratic system and sowing the seeds of civil strife.

The proportion of election deniers on the November ballot is particularly high in three of the battleground states where Trump contested his defeat in 2020: Arizona, Georgia and Michigan. Election deniers have targeted offices in each of those states — as well as in other battleground states, including Wisconsin, Nevada and Pennsylvania — potentially giving Republicans a platform from which to challenge a popular vote they do not agree with in 2024.

The proportion is also higher among candidates for Congress, which holds the power to finalize — or contest — the electoral college count every four years. Among 419 Republican nominees for the U.S. House, 235, or 56 percent, are election deniers. And the vast majority of those, 148, are running in safely Republican districts, with another 28 in competitive races, according to ratings as of Oct. 5 by the Cook Political Report.

There are already scores of election deniers in the House; 139 of them voted against the electoral college count after the violence of Jan. 6, 2021, had finally abated. But with 37 election deniers who are not incumbents running in safely Republican or competitive House districts, that number will almost certainly rise after November.

Several scholars said one of the gravest implications of these candidates dominating the House majority caucus relates to their loyalty to Trump, who has steered the party toward near-universal fealty.

“One of the questions about the Republican conference will be, who is the real leader?” said Steven Smith, a political science professor with a focus on Congress at Washington University in St. Louis. “If the party wins a majority and it seems to be due to the success of the deniers, it’s hard to imagine Trump not taking advantage of this by using his public power to press the conference to follow his wishes.”

That could mean Trump demanding investigations into the administration, determining the GOP’s pick for speaker or dictating whether the House votes to impeach Biden, Smith said. Trump, who has never acknowledged Biden as the legitimate president, was twice impeached.

Trump has amply demonstrated his penchant for driving Republican legislative action, including this past weekend, when he excoriated Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) for supporting a stopgap spending bill that included aid for Ukraine. Republicans who won their primaries thanks to a Trump endorsement may be reluctant to defy him.

Smith noted, however, that there is also peril for Republicans in this moment. Although election deniers are on course to win in reliably Republican districts and states, it’s also possible that the party will lose more competitive races because of its focus on the issue. And those who do win could push for a more extreme agenda that could backfire.

The only states where the GOP nominated a clean slate of election deniers are Montana, Tennessee, West Virginia and Wyoming, all of which are reliably Republican. But even in closely divided states where Democrats have been gaining in recent years, candidates who refuse to accept the 2020 result dominate within the GOP.

Among the Republican nominees for Arizona’s nine House seats, all but one are election deniers, according to The Post’s analysis. Four of those are incumbents who voted against the electoral college count on Jan. 6, 2021. The four election-denying newcomers include candidates who promoted false claims that a partisan audit of the Arizona result proved that Trump really won, called for the “decertification” of the Arizona result or endorsed the unfounded findings of the documentary film “2000 Mules,” which claimed that thousands of Democratic activists stuffed ballot boxes with forged votes in 2020.

Just two states — Rhode Island and North Dakota — did not nominate an election denier for any of the offices The Post examined.

The Post’s count covers offices with direct supervision over election certification, such as secretaries of state. Lieutenant governors and attorneys general are also included, with each playing a role in shaping election law, investigating alleged fraud or filing lawsuits to influence electoral outcomes.

It is not certain that all who embraced Trump’s false statements about 2020 would try to undermine a certified result in 2024. Indeed, several election-denying candidates who avidly parroted some of Trump’s unfounded accusations as they sought the former president’s endorsement during their primary races have begun walking back those positions as they focus on trying to win in November.

Don Bolduc, a retired brigadier general who won the Republican Senate primary in New Hampshire in early September, declared during an August primary debate: “I signed a letter with 120 other generals and admirals saying that Trump won the election, and, damn it, I stand by my letter. I’m not switching horses, baby. This is it.”

But days after his win, Bolduc shifted his attention to the general election against Sen. Maggie Hassan (D), who is favored to win her bid for reelection. As he did so, his position on whether Biden had won two years ago shifted, too.

“I’ve done a lot of research on this, and I’ve spent the past couple weeks talking to Granite Staters all over the state from every party, and I have come to the conclusion — and I want to be definitive on this — the election was not stolen,” Bolduc said in an interview on Fox News.

Days later, he suggested to a podcast aligned with the QAnon extremist ideology that he had simply bowed to political reality, and that “the narrative that the election was stolen, it does not fly up here in New Hampshire.”

Then he repeated a sentiment that has become common among GOP candidates who stop short of denying the 2020 outcome but continue to cast doubt on the integrity of U.S. elections, even though experts and election officials say their claims are not true.

“What does fly,” Bolduc said, “is that there was significant fraud and it needs to be fixed.”


Elite Member
Apr 24, 2020
United States
Go fuck yourself OPEC.

Edit: The moment the Iranians break free of the current dictatorship we should ally with them against the Saudis.

Terminal Blue

Elite Member
Feb 18, 2010
United Kingdom
Ooooo... that's Threads. One of the better 80s post-nuclear war pieces. Very grim and depressing.
I remember it dimly. It's from that special era during the 80s and 90s when it became very clear that the people making British public information films really, really wanted to make horror films and took revenge for this thwarted ambition by traumatizing the public.


The Big Engine
Apr 3, 2020
I remember it dimly. It's from that special era during the 80s and 90s when it became very clear that the people making British public information films really, really wanted to make horror films and took revenge for this thwarted ambition by traumatizing the public.
To be absolutely fair, if you’re making an accurate PSA about nuclear war, not making it horrifying seems to miss the mark.


Surreal Estate Agent
Mar 21, 2010
The Wide, Brown One.
I remember it dimly. It's from that special era during the 80s and 90s when it became very clear that the people making British public information films really, really wanted to make horror films and took revenge for this thwarted ambition by traumatizing the public.
If they really wanted to traumatise the public Threads would have been set in Scunthorpe. "Look at the devastation! Look at the hideous mutants! What do you mean the war hasn't started yet?"


The Free Marketplace of Realities
Apr 29, 2020
Ah shit.
Huh, terrorists asking to be treating like terrorists.

Makes sense, but not heard that one before.
Not only that, but there's a sharp irony in that these ppl are always talking about putting their political enemies in Guantanamo for public execution once their military has taken power, it's been one of their consistent rhetorics for the last 5 years or so.
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Jun 2, 2020
Fascist sympathisers are never logical anyway, but there's something extra special fuckwitted about nationalists glorifying a fascist power that tried to destroy their own country.
Irish fascists are hilarious. Always ranting about Irish culture without so much a cúpla focail between them while deifying people who were straight up communists and not knowing it.


The Free Marketplace of Realities
Apr 29, 2020
Ah shit.
The real story behind faking the abuse is just as horrid as the claims themselves, jees. Fucking awful people behind this shit. And projection yet again.

Hilary Clinton eats dead babies. Covid was invented by Bill Gates so he could carry out a global programme of mind control. And at the heart of a leafy London suburb lurks a Satanic sex cult whose members ritually kill children and drink their blood.

Such outrageous conspiracy theories would be laughable if they weren’t so dangerous – as one 56-year-old retired writer from Ottowa found out.

Still bearing the emotional scars and going only by her first name Karen, she tells how she was harassed, stalked and driven to the brink, all because she tried to help debunk one of the most disturbing frauds the UK has ever seen: the Hampstead sex cult hoax, a conspiracy theory that centred around a church and school in north London.

Karen, who lived more than 3,000 miles away in Canada, had been accidentally linked to the school through a misunderstanding online, but once she saw how hateful the abuse could be, she knew she had to help others experiencing the same thing in the UK.

Recalling the hundreds of emails and death threats she received from people who were adamant she was wrong, that there really was a Satanic child sex ring operating out of suburbia, Karen says: ‘The harassment got pretty brutal. The messages said things like, “Watch your back. We’re coming to get you. The criminals that I know have drawn straws to see who gets to kill you. We’ll let you choose which end of you goes into the wood chipper first”.’

In one message she was even sent a picture of a severed human head.

‘I don’t even know where you would find a picture like that,’ she says in a call from her home in Canada. ‘It was just the most grotesque and terrifying experience.’

Close up of person typing at his laptop computer at night

Karen received hundreds of emails and death threats from people who were adamant she was wrong, that there really was a satanic child sex ring operating out of suburbia (Picture: Getty Images/Westend61)

One stalker sent her a total of 855 emails and posted numerous threatening videos about her online accusing her of being a ‘Satanist peadophile who murdered and ate babies’. In a video, he laid out an elaborate plan to kidnap her using thugs dressed in fake police uniforms and a transit van. He told Karen she ‘ought to get used to looking over her shoulder.’

While an investigation into how rumours of the fictitious cult came to exist is currently gripping podcast listeners as part of Tortoise Media’s Hoaxed series, it’s a story that dates back to 2014.

In September of that year, two children from a Hampstead primary school*, known only as ‘P’ and ‘Q’, were recorded by phone in a series of short videos alleging that they had been sexually abused by their father, teachers and other adults.

The children told some incredibly gruesome stories. They said they were part of a group that was supplied with babies from all over the world. The babies had been abused, tortured and then sacrificed. Their throats were slit, blood was drunk and the cult members would then dance wearing babies’ skulls, the children said.

The children’s mother, Ella Draper, was a Russian-born yoga teacher. She and her partner, Abraham Christie, backed up the assertions that the children’s father was the leader of the cult and that other adults were involved in the abuse. A high court judgement later categorically refuted all the claims.

Following a police investigation and three interviews with the two children, it was reported that Ella and Abraham had coerced them into telling the lies, with Abraham torturing them, hitting them and pouring water over their faces until they couldn’t breathe.

Ella Draper and Abraham Christie

Ella Draper and Abraham Christie have since left the country (Picture: Tim Stewart News Ltd)

In March 2015, the High Court judgement by Mrs Justice Pauffley ruled: ‘I am able to state with complete conviction that none of the allegations are true. I am entirely certain that everything Ms Draper, her partner Abraham Christie and the children said about those matters was fabricated. The claims are baseless. Those who have sought to perpetuate them are evil and/or foolish.’

Although Ella’s lawyer appealed to overturn the ruling a few months later in August, neither she nor Abraham were present. Her lawyer claimed that Ella fled the country because “she panicked” and was “terrified of the stories she had heard from her children”.

While the appeal was not granted, frenzied rumours surrounding the Hampstead sex cult were still rife – and it was all down to Sabine McNeill – a German-born woman who had been working as an informal legal adviser with Ella in her custody case with the children’s father since 2014.

McNeill had become obsessed with family courts, believing they were trying to steal children from their families, and had decided to throw her weight behind Ella’s sinister allegations.

Just weeks before Justice Pauffley’s ruling, McNeill had demanded that the courts release the children to Ella’s care, or she would release damaging information.

When the judge would not concede to her attempted blackmail, McNeill sent all the material Ella had given her to a blogger, with a note that ‘this could go viral’.

Sabine McNeill

Sabine McNeill gave a blogger a list of the names and addresses of the adults accused of the involvement and even posted videos of the children’s coerced testimonies online (Picture: CENTRAL NEWS)

The information contained a list of the names, street addresses, work and contact details of around 175 adults that had been accused of involvement in the fictitious demonic sex cult. McNeill posted the videos of the children’s testimonies online for all to see.

A touch paper had been lit.

Despite a judge ruling that there was no legitimacy to these claims, conspiracy theorists began to hound parents at the school. When a police guard was set up at the school gates, they held protests outside the local church, threatening to burn it down. The flames were fanned by conspiracy sites Infowars and the David Icke forum, leaving parents in fear for their children’s safety.

Karen learned about what was going on when she started receiving hundreds of hits from random strangers on her personal blog in February 2015, which she published with her sister.

The pair had previously posted about an art exhibition they had seen mentioning an artist who had links to the Hampstead church – but it was enough for the conspiracy theorists to conclude that Karen was somehow involved in the alleged abuse, and that harassment began.

‘I talked to a parent who had been targeted. They told me the kids involved couldn’t go anywhere without adults; they had to have trackers,’ Karen recalls. ‘It ruined so many childhoods.’

Families’ phones rang at all hours with nuisance calls. Parents were forced to change their route to school, give their children new names or move house, carry out drills in case of intruders and install panic buttons in their homes. Lives and businesses were ruined. One mother slept with a crowbar under the bed.

Group of students walking through school hallway

Parents were forced to change their route to school and give their children new names or even move house (Picture: Getty Images)

Another parent told Karen how pedophiles kept emailing her, disturbingly asking her to provide her nine-year-old daughter for sex.

And they were bombarding Karen, too. After she realised she was being linked to the hoax, she posted a joke comment.

‘We made the mistake of publishing something like: “Thank you reptilian overlords for sending so many hits to our blog”.’ She was lightheartedly referencing the conspiracy that interstellar lizards in people suits rule the country, but her joke backfired.

‘They took it seriously and we started getting death threats.’

Karen was told: ‘We are coming to get you. We know who you are.’

It was terrifying. Karen ended up hyper vigilant and worried for her own and her family’s safety and her sister’s life – who lived in London at the time and was also known to the conspiracy theorists.

But Karen, who says ‘I don’t like bullies and I don’t like bulls***’, couldn’t leave the parents on their own to fight the battle. She turned detective and devoted six years of her life to taking down the enemy.

Setting up the Hoaxtead Research blog, she formed a network of fellow fighters who worked to get the social media giants to remove links to the children’s videos and to gather evidence against the hoaxers that would eventually be used to prosecute them.

But it came at a personal toll as she was hounded.

‘Each time I received a new email or found another video, I felt shaken and distressed,’ admits Karen. ‘The graphic, obscene threats left me feeling sickened and worried.

‘I felt my self-confidence slowly ebbing away. At times I was tempted to set my email to block the barrage of threats and abuse, but I resisted. While I felt a surge of panic and revulsion every time a new threat popped up in my inbox—often several times per day—I thought it prudent to be aware of anything the stalker or his friends might be planning to do, in case they were actively planning to harm me or my family. I felt I had to be on high alert at all times.

‘I began to feel a constant sense of dread, punctuated by moments of sheer panic, and I began to question myself constantly, she adds. ‘I found it hard to concentrate and I felt tense and anxious much of the time. I rarely slept through the night, often waking in a state of anxiety, sweating and with my heart pounding.’

To top it all off, her stalker was due to be at the trial of McNeill, who in 2018 was charged with stalking, causing serious harm or distress and breaching a restraining order.

Karen, who’d travelled over to London to report on the trial for her blog, remembers feeling terrified, but she forced herself to go and remained aware of where he was sitting in the public gallery the entire time.

‘While I was in London, someone knocked on my door early one Sunday morning, and I completely froze,’ she recalls. ‘I felt unable to breathe. I had not shared my address with anybody else, I wasn’t expecting a visitor, and all I could think was that my stalker or one of his friends had found me. At that moment, I actually feared I was about to die.’

She left the door unanswered and remained inside for the rest of the day.

However, her hard work paid off as in January 2019, McNeill, then aged 73, was jailed for nine years. Hers was the most high-profile of a number of criminal convictions related to the hoax.

Terraced homes

For the innocent families caught up in all this hoax, their nightmare is yet to be fully over as the Hampstead cult theory persists (Picture: Getty Images)

Meanwhile, the two who concocted the warped tale have gone underground.

Having left the country before they could face justice, Draper and Christie are said to live an itinerant lifestyle, travelling internationally and popping up occasionally to give interviews to conspiracy theory websites.

For the innocent families caught up in all this, their nightmare is yet to be fully over, as the Hampstead cult theory persists, with anonymous online accounts still posting the harrowing videos of the kids’ fabricated testimonies.

‘Just recently I noticed someone who brought up almost every piece of crap alleged evidence that has ever been associated with the case and spewed them all out on Twitter,’ says Karen. ‘And I’m like – dude, give it up. You lost!’

For her, although it was a battle worth fighting, it has left scars. The abuse Karen received left her suffering from anxiety attacks. She remembers: ‘I was afraid to go out of my house. I became incredibly easy to startle. I had all the symptoms of PTSD and I was on medication for some time after.

‘Still, to this day, am cautious about going into poorly lit areas such as parking garages. I check up and down the street when I go outside, and am always on the lookout for people who might be about to do me harm.’

Last year, Karen’s stalker was finally brought to justice. He pleaded guilty to three charges of harassment and was detained on a hospital order for an indefinite sentence.

‘I was glad that he was convicted,’ says Karen. ‘I was also glad that he was put into a psychiatric facility because I felt he’s the kind of person who might be able to benefit from that, if they’re able to reach him. I feel that it is a safer space than prison, and that he will have a chance to be somewhat rehabilitated if that’s possible.

‘I see him as a sick person, rather than an evil person. But what he was doing was evil. I also think he was used a lot by some of the more prominent hoaxers who would tell him things that were completely made up. I believe they use him as a gun to fire their bullets.’

Karen says she feels safer now, and happier, but is frustrated that people, despite all the evidence in front of them, still believe such insane theories.

‘The Hampstead Hoax was used by people in the United States as evidence for the whole “Hillary Clinton eats babies” thing,’ she explains. ‘So you have QAnon and Pizzagate, and they all kind of feed into each other. And once you believe one piece of a conspiracy theory it’s a lot easier for someone to sell you the next piece.

‘Then you’ll find people end up with this meta-conspiracy mindset where pretty much anything that comes down the pike, they accept. Covid makes your brains fall out. “We’re in”. 5G is a government plot to control your mind. “Check”.

‘Criminals you can deal with,’ she adds. ‘But with people who belong to what amounts to an internet cult – it’s a little bit harder to talk sense to them. I do feel now that the tide is turning and people are beginning to realise what the internet can do with the power that it can have, spreading and creating this kind of viciousness.

‘I think a lot of the people who just accept the story [as true] do not think of themselves not as bad or evil or deluded. But as heroes. And that, I find in some ways, more scary.’

The Rogue Wolf

Stealthy Carnivore
Nov 25, 2007
Stalking the Digital Tundra
The real story behind faking the abuse is just as horrid as the claims themselves, jees. Fucking awful people behind this shit. And projection yet again.

Everybody laughs until a guy with a rifle shows up at a pizzeria with the aim of "saving those poor kids". These people need to be found and forcibly committed.