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You're a fucking dumb ass Charlie Kirk.
To be fair, pretty much 0% of the modern usage of the word empathy is actually talking about empathy. People saying "empathy" usually actually mean "pity" but want a better connotation.
 

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Surely there's a larger context to the 'no secular argument against incest'? Is he doing a 'we need religion to give us morals' argument?

Eta... Yeah he is....





Citation From the October 11, 2022, edition of The Salem Radio Network's The Dennis Prager Show


DENNIS PRAGER (HOST): Just this one verse that men should not wear women's clothing or women men's clothing. So, let's go to my motto, preferring clarity to agreement. Either the Bible's right or the left is right. They can't both be right.
That's why you can't be a serious Jew or Christian and be a leftist. You can be a liberal, you can be a conservative, but you can't be a leftist. Just on this issue alone. You just would have to say the Bible's wrong and you're right.
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There's no secular argument against adult incest. Brother and sister want to make love, what's your argument? That they're going to produce mentally retarded offspring? That's nonsense. It takes many generations of inbreeding to do that. There is no secular argument against adult consensual incest. There is a religious argument - sex cannot enter family life. It's a big taboo.
See, people think we can live without the greatest source of wisdom and morality in the history of the world, the Bible. That's what they think. Even some secular conservatives think that. They don't realize that they're living on the fumes of the Judeo-Christian value system. But if you ultimately extract those flowers from the soil that nurtured them, those flowers will wither and die. I don't want to see that happen.
 
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To be fair, pretty much 0% of the modern usage of the word empathy is actually talking about empathy. People saying "empathy" usually actually mean "pity" but want a better connotation.
Based on what studies?
 

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Based on what studies?
I dont think study is the right word here

By dictionary definition, I empathise with pro-lifers. I can understand wanting to protect kids/babies.

That doesn't mean I agree with their policy. I can understand their point of view without agreeing with their solution. Which is what I call empathy... but I can understand others having a different definition
 

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I dont think study is the right word here

By dictionary definition, I empathise with pro-lifers. I can understand wanting to protect kids/babies.

That doesn't mean I agree with their policy. I can understand their point of view without agreeing with their solution. Which is what I call empathy... but I can understand others having a different definition
I know, it's just ridiculous for him to state that 100 percent of people who use the word use it to mean "my strawman definition which is the false meaning".
 

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See, people think we can live without the greatest source of wisdom and morality in the history of the world, the Bible.
Y'ever notice that it's always their holy book which is the only thing separating humankind from barbarism? Never anyone else's religion, no. That's just more of (insert source of all evil here)'s trickery.
 
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Surely there's a larger context to the 'no secular argument against incest'? Is he doing a 'we need religion to give us morals' argument?

Eta... Yeah he is....





Citation From the October 11, 2022, edition of The Salem Radio Network's The Dennis Prager Show


DENNIS PRAGER (HOST): Just this one verse that men should not wear women's clothing or women men's clothing. So, let's go to my motto, preferring clarity to agreement. Either the Bible's right or the left is right. They can't both be right.
That's why you can't be a serious Jew or Christian and be a leftist. You can be a liberal, you can be a conservative, but you can't be a leftist. Just on this issue alone. You just would have to say the Bible's wrong and you're right.
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There's no secular argument against adult incest. Brother and sister want to make love, what's your argument? That they're going to produce mentally retarded offspring? That's nonsense. It takes many generations of inbreeding to do that. There is no secular argument against adult consensual incest. There is a religious argument - sex cannot enter family life. It's a big taboo.
See, people think we can live without the greatest source of wisdom and morality in the history of the world, the Bible. That's what they think. Even some secular conservatives think that. They don't realize that they're living on the fumes of the Judeo-Christian value system. But if you ultimately extract those flowers from the soil that nurtured them, those flowers will wither and die. I don't want to see that happen.
Bold move quoting a document where 100% of everybody came from a pair of clones
 

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Do you just enjoy being wrong? I mean, I understand if you do; you're really good at it.
He'll claim that doesn't count or something.

iirc Adam and Eve only had sons.

Really makes you think.
So either we're all descended from a ton of brother-brother incest or Seth was cucking his dad quite a bit. In this case, Seth and Cain spooning each other is the less disturbing scenario.

You're a fucking dumb ass Charlie Kirk.
If Charlie could read he'd be very upset.
 
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Based on what studies?
Based on the "you know I'm right" study.

To put a point on it: how many people who preach about empathy for the poor apply that to poor people who voted for Donald Trump?
 

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Based on the "you know I'm right" study.

To put a point on it: how many people who preach about empathy for the poor apply that to poor people who voted for Donald Trump?
There's a lot of left-wing analysis devoted to why people side with populists and rightwing movements in general, which attempts to understand them and is an inherently empathic exercise. Conservatives don't give a shit about trying to understand 'the other side'.
 

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There's a lot of left-wing analysis devoted to why people side with populists and rightwing movements in general, which attempts to understand them and is an inherently empathic exercise. Conservatives don't give a shit about trying to understand 'the other side'.
There is a lot of left-wing analysis devoted to rationalizing why people would vote right wing BECAUSE the people doing that analysis have no empathy for right-wingers. The right wing doesn't do the same analysis because we don't have need a study to go "oh, the left-wing rhetorically promises to lift up the poor and help the disadvantaged, and people like those things so they vote for them." Nobody should need a study to figure out people vote right-wing for the promises of law, order, and economic stability. Rather, it takes a study to rationalize whether some animalistic part of the human subconscious makes people racist enough to vote for right-wing movements, or if we were just all abused by our parents. Let me tell you: if you'd like to understand the thoughts and feelings of those on the right, ask us, and nobody is ever going to give an answer that sounds anything like Freud. Empathy is about understanding the feelings of others. The analysis you're talking about typically tries to ignore what a right-winger would actually say they feel.
 

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Nobody should need a study to figure out people vote right-wing for the promises of law, order, and economic stability.
The fact that the right wing consistently fails to deliver on that shit does however raise some questions as to why people keep voting for them. As it turns out, there's more going on underneath the surface.
 

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Again, you are correct. That doesn't change anything. Tabloids trying to pander to Christians by saying Starbucks hates them is not a reason to defend tabloids pandering to the left by saying conservatives hate black people.
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I'm not even talking about that, this is just whataboutism.

You are one of the people with the least ability to empathise with your opponents. You insist you know them better than they know themselves; wholly disregard their own descriptions of their priorities and needs; repeat that they secretly agree with you and they're just fooled by propaganda. You have absolutely zero high ground here.
 
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