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I understand that you've totally lost your mind, you don't need to document it further.

Since you're probably not gonna even think about it: the boat is 99.9% fake, they crashed a boat parade and shouted racial slurs, and got denounced and left behind very quickly. Nearly guaranteed those are Democrats just trying to cause trouble.

The second has zero even implied ties to conservatism or the Republican Party.

The third picture was taken at the Bloomsburg Fair (I was actually in Bloomsburg for work last week, funny enough). We're talking about a venue that does tractor pulls and hosts Jeff Dunham shows in a county that's 64% Republican by voter registration. They kicked that guy out of the fair.
Yes yes, everything is a false flag operation and antifa did January 6th.
 

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Yes yes, everything is a false flag operation and antifa did January 6th.
Not everything, but that one...

Regardless, your attempt to tie conservatism or Republicanism to fascism resulted in 3 pictures, every single one of which was promptly and vehemently disavowed by Republicans and conservatives. Imagine if Biden kicked a nazi out of one of his events, and that was my evidence that Biden is a nazi.
 

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Regardless, your attempt to tie conservatism or Republicanism to fascism resulted in 3 pictures, every single one of which was promptly and vehemently disavowed by Republicans and conservatives. Imagine if Biden kicked a nazi out of one of his events, and that was my evidence that Biden is a nazi.
I simply did an image search for "Nazi flag at Trump rally" and got plenty more than three pictures. And Biden never signed executive orders punishing law firms for supporting his rivals.
 
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Why would tech devices be subject to tariffs this time if they weren't last time? The US doesn't make such devices so why would they be tariffed in an effort to safeguard domestic production (that doesn't exist)?
Just reposting these finely-aged quotes from November. 🍷
In a notice to shippers late on Friday, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency published a list of tariff codes excluded from the import taxes, with retroactive effect from 12:01 a.m. EDT (0401 GMT) on April 5.
It featured 20 product categories, including the broad 8471 code for all computers, laptops, disc drives and automatic data processing. It also included semiconductor devices, equipment, memory chips and flat panel displays.

 

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I simply did an image search for "Nazi flag at Trump rally" and got plenty more than three pictures. And Biden never signed executive orders punishing law firms for supporting his rivals.
First off, you got plenty of pictures that aren't nazi flags at Trump rallies. The only result that actually even approaches meeting the criteria is the aforementioned boat that got chased out of the parade.

Second, Trump through executive order told the government to stop hiring some law firms who had worked against him personally. Democrats actually prosecuted multiples of Trump's lawyers with criminal charges for being part of Trump's "criminal enterprise". Trump doesn't even come close to that.
 

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Or conservatism isn't fascism, or anything even resembling fascism to anyone who has not completely lost their mind.
What's some ideal of 'conservatism' got to do with the current neo fascist regime of republican bastards destroying your country?




 
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She said she stopped attending Mass when she became a mother after realizing she “could not trust the Church leadership to protect my children from pedophiles.”

“It’s the church leadership I was referring to when I invoked the Devil,” she went on. “Just so we’re clear, bishops, when I said ‘controlled by Satan,’ I wasn’t talking about the Catholic Church. I was talking about you.”

 
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In a notice to shippers late on Friday, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency published a list of tariff codes excluded from the import taxes, with retroactive effect from 12:01 a.m. EDT (0401 GMT) on April 5.
It featured 20 product categories, including the broad 8471 code for all computers, laptops, disc drives and automatic data processing. It also included semiconductor devices, equipment, memory chips and flat panel displays.

"For the Chinese imports, the exclusion of the tech products applies only to Trump's reciprocal tariffs, which climbed to 125% this week, according to a White House official. Trump's prior 20% duties on all Chinese imports that he said were related to the U.S. fentanyl crisis remain in place."

Righto. So what I said originally about blanket tariffs remains true, including for tech.
 

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Not everything, but that one...

Regardless, your attempt to tie conservatism or Republicanism to fascism resulted in 3 pictures, every single one of which was promptly and vehemently disavowed by Republicans and conservatives. Imagine if Biden kicked a nazi out of one of his events, and that was my evidence that Biden is a nazi.
No, it is pretty obvious that was is currently happening is a fascist takeover attempt. It looks exactly like all the other ones we know from history. And as the Republican party is still either actively supporting it or staying silent, it stands to reason that the Republicans stopped being a conservative party and are a fascist one right now.

However that is not the same thing as them being Nazis. There are a lot more flavor of fascists around than them, it is just a way wider term. The US Nazis that do exist, do tend to flock to the Republicans however since they feel its a better match than the democrats. And too often they are welcomed.
 

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Or conservatism isn't fascism, or anything even resembling fascism to anyone who has not completely lost their mind.
Sure. I agree with that. Conservatism in general isn’t fascist and anyone would be pretty foolish to deem conservative politicians like Merkel(or the new CDU guy), Romney, Omzight or Donald Tusk to be fascists.

But far right demagoguery isn’t normal conservatism. It’s an extreme corruption of it. Normal conservatives not being fascists says nothing about whether or not their corrupted extremist fringe is fascist or not.

Trump and maga are not normal “wholesome” conservatives. They’re far right extremist who ousted or cowed into submission anyone who is just a conservative.
 

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I wouldn't call people like Donald Trump 'fascist'.

In casual use, 'fascist' has come to broadly mean 'right wing authoritarian', and it's in this sense that people use it to describe Trump (and a dozen other demogogues around the world). But fascism has a more distinct ideological meaning that doesn't comfortably fit with Trump.

He's a corporatist and an authoritarian. That doesn't mean he doesn't share some features, of course.
 

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LOL. You know, I cut down on snacks and sugary drinks recently. So did my dad. So did a lot of people I know. It was Lent. Trump's recent tariffs coincided with Lent in a nation that is over half Christian and over 20% Catholic. People give up snacks and soda for Lent. And then also, literally millions of people have gone on GLP-1 medications, which reduce or eliminate the cravings that drive people to snack foods. But no, it's definitely the secret canary in the economic coal mine (even though we've been hearing over the last few years of inflation that snacks have surprisingly inelastic demand even as prices drive up, and were likely the last thing people would cut, rather than the first...)

Rationalization is a hell of a drug.
It looks exactly like all the other ones we know from history.
If you are intent to, any regime anywhere looks like any of the others. The basics of society are the same no matter who is in charge, you get similarities like "Oh God! They're enforcing immigration law! Like fascists!" when literally every working modern society has done that and it wasn't controversial until 10 years ago. "Oh no, he has a rich advisor! Like fascism!" when that's true of every government in every form since the invention of money. "But, they aren't strictly following the letter of the law!" just like Biden, or Obama, or Bush didn't either. Or Thomas Jefferson for that matter. The media tells me that Trump not following the law so precisely is a dangerous fall towards fascism, but there was this Jefferson fellow who had some thoughts:

" To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means. "

In reality, I see little evidence that any part of Trump is particularly unprecedented or any closer to fascism than Thomas Jefferson was. I do, however, recognize the popularity of conservatism in America, and appreciate that framing a person as unprecedented and dangerous to the status quo is a persuasive argument in as much as it appeals to the conservative nature of society.
 

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I wouldn't call people like Donald Trump 'fascist'.

In casual use, 'fascist' has come to broadly mean 'right wing authoritarian', and it's in this sense that people use it to describe Trump (and a dozen other demogogues around the world). But fascism has a more distinct ideological meaning that doesn't comfortably fit with Trump.

He's a corporatist and an authoritarian. That doesn't mean he doesn't share some features, of course.
Right wing, authoritan, populist and nationalist, that is the core. Also a strong focus on in-group/outgroup opposition.

There are many smaller things like using measures and rethoric directly lifted from fascist Italy, Germany or Spain, but those tend to be somewhat linked to authoritanism or nationalism anyway.

Now often people also include militarism and focus on economic self sufficiency in a fascism definition. And while the latter does match Trumps approach, the Republicans don't seem much more militaristic than Americans in general, all that talk about deploying the army internally, sending troops to Mexico, Greenland, whatever nonwithstanding. But that alone is not enough for me to not call them fascists.

And yes, some people prefer to use the word neo-fascist but i don't see enough differences nor do i think it very useful considering several of the original fascist regimes survived quite some time after WWII.
 
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Right wing, authoritan, populist and nationalist, that is the core. Also a strong focus on in-group/outgroup opposition.
Those are central characteristics. But they also characterise countless movements and governments that long predate what we'd call "fascist". The term describes a set of movements with a more specific list of defining features and extreme, era-defining severity.

Now often people also include militarism and focus on economic self sufficiency in a fascism definition. And while the latter does match Trumps approach, the Republicans don't seem much more militaristic than Americans in general, all that talk about deploying the army internally, sending troops to Mexico, Greenland, whatever nonwithstanding. But that alone is not enough for me to not call them fascists.
There's also the central role of the state, controlling all economic and cultural aspects of public life to maintain rigid hierarchy. While the Republicans love to weaponise the state to fight culture war issues, they also tend to deregulate corporate life.

But also, frankly, Republicans may be authoritarian whackjobs, but true totalitarianism is just on another level. It's a little like comparing Maduro with Stalin.
 

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Since the memo was issued, CBS News reports the Trump administration has signed 456 agreements with local police departments, letting them act as immigration officers — turning traffic stops and routine patrols into immigration raids.


Ryan Shapiro, executive director of Property of the People, put it bluntly: “The documents reveal the Trump administration has authorized every single law enforcement officer in the country, including traffic cops, to engage in immigrant roundups explicitly outside due process.”

So, unless I'm missing something here, ICE no longer needs warrants to enter homes, and regular police are essentially being deputized by ICE to also no longer need warrants to enter homes? That's a whole new flavor of terrifying.

So, how long before police start receiving "anonymous" immigration tips from each other to allow them warrantless entry into any home they want for any reason? Because in at least parts of my state they've done that with child protective services already (I used to date a social worker who left CPS because she was causing problems with police in her county by refusing to play along).
 
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Nayib Bukele, the president of El Salvador and Trump’s number one Latin American buddy, is a renaissance man for our era. Crypto, memes, reddit. Repression, megaprisons, anti-communism. We take a look at the history of El Salvador and the ascent of the “coolest dictator in the world”.

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Editing by Corey Klotz. Theme by Nick Sena. Additional music by Pontus Berghe. Theme Vocals by THEY/LIVE ( / theyylivve / https://sptfy.com/QrDm). Cover Art by Pedro Correa: (https://pedrocorrea.com)
a little taste of America's history of destabilising other vulnerable countries to stamp out leftist resistance or attempts at coalition, that ultimately still somehow comes back to bite their own population and politics on the ass, in a kinda violent, reflective manner if there's another set of words one could use to summarise, perhaps an explosion? that returns? back? it blows? blows back? eh, nevermind
 

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The UK's Equalities and Human Rights commission has published guidance on trans people and bathrooms, following the Supreme Court's ruling that trans women are not legally women under the Equalities Act.

It states that trans women “should not be permitted to use the women’s facilities” in workplaces or public-facing services.

...and also "in some circumstances the law also allows trans women (biological men) not to be permitted to use the men’s facilities, and trans men (biological women) not to be permitted to use the women’s facilities”.

Keep in mind that there's no requirement to have unisex or gender neutral facilities. Only single-sex ones.

So, uhrm, the "Equalities" watchdog has endorsed a standard in which trans people (and intersex people) can be barred from going to the toilet at all.
 

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The UK's Equalities and Human Rights commission has published guidance on trans people and bathrooms, following the Supreme Court's ruling that trans women are not legally women under the Equalities Act.

It states that trans women “should not be permitted to use the women’s facilities” in workplaces or public-facing services.

...and also "in some circumstances the law also allows trans women (biological men) not to be permitted to use the men’s facilities, and trans men (biological women) not to be permitted to use the women’s facilities”.

Keep in mind that there's no requirement to have unisex or gender neutral facilities. Only single-sex ones.

So, uhrm, the "Equalities" watchdog has endorsed a standard in which trans people (and intersex people) can be barred from going to the toilet at all.
The means by which to gage someone being trans is sure to not be far more invasive than the idea of a transwoman using the ladies room, right? Passport and or genital checks before being allowed into a bathroom or changing room? Yeah?

Good thing we made everyone less uncomfortable by putting those transgenders in their place, huh?