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Disney is doing fine. Unfortunately. Go woke, go broke has never been a thing
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Disney is doing fine. Unfortunately. Go woke, go broke has never been a thing
Exactly, but people like Phoenix like falling into the grift and smelling their own farts every single day just to feel better about themselves. They want to lie to themselves and lie to others to bring everyone down to their pathetic and shitty level.
What I do love about this day and age, is that there are plenty of movies and shows that are not afraid to get multicultural and have non-white leading roles in movies, tv shows, and games. We've been seeing more of those now than ever. I am all the more happy for them. It's the ultimate truth Phoenix and the rest of those alt-right gifters can't handle.
Who can really be surprised that Grok engaged in Holocaust denial?
www.theguardian.com
Of course Musk's AI is promoting the sort of views Musk does, he's controlling its output and it's there to parrot what he wants. This waffle about "unauthorised modification" and circumventing procedure is probably bullshit. They over-tuned the Nazi-ness a bit too much, so had to dial it back a little. It needs to hit a sweet spot where it can sound as reasonable as possible whilst favouring the far right.
Musk’s AI bot Grok blames ‘programming error’ for its Holocaust denial
Grok doubted 6 million death toll, days after peddling conspiracy theory of ‘white genocide’ in South Africa
www.theguardian.com
Of course Musk's AI is promoting the sort of views Musk does, he's controlling its output and it's there to parrot what he wants. This waffle about "unauthorised modification" and circumventing procedure is probably bullshit. They over-tuned the Nazi-ness a bit too much, so had to dial it back a little. It needs to hit a sweet spot where it can sound as reasonable as possible whilst favouring the far right.
Surprisingly the Putin puppet in the Romanian election seems to have lost according to the exit poll. But as the fascist he is the Putin puppet insists he secretly won the election and that he's now the president.
There are still people in Australia claiming that Dutton won a few weeks ago and the election was rigged (Not Dutton or his party. Journalist.)
This just seems to be the line those sort of people take now if they lose
Because Trump did that a little while ago, and we have to copy every stupid thing done in the US. Bleh.
I wanna be clear. I don't particularly like Disney. Yes, I will give them a few weeks grace because Andor was so good. That's as far as I'm willing to take it.
Just because I dislike Disney does not mean Phoenixmgs is on the same side as me. Disney isn't bad because it's 'woke'. It's bad because it's exploitative. The woke stuff is an excuse to paper over real problems
I'll defend Phoenixmgs by saying he could have unintentionally made racist claims. He clearly brought evidence he thought would back him up and it did the opposite. So I'm not willing to call what he did grifting... but he probably fell for some grifters' nonsense
And go watch Andor. It's some of the best TV ever created
Sky News needs to die. Most of out media is very conservative already. We don't need it
Argh, yes, keeps coming up as recommended vids on youtube, and just the titles are bad enough.
Where I have claimed that people must not watch Disney or Disney should be censored? Why are you moving goal posts (the stuff you all claim I do)?
Also, Disney did lose a ton of money on movie flops and they will have to change course if they want to make money.
Disney Loses BILLIONS at the Box Office | Disney Dining
It's been a bad 15 months for Walt Disney Studios. They have currently lost almost $2 billion at the box office...
www.disneydining.com
I just said Disney is being racist, which you won't agree with for some reason.
Disney did lose a ton of money on movie flops and they will have to change course if they want to make money.
Disney Loses BILLIONS at the Box Office | Disney Dining
It's been a bad 15 months for Walt Disney Studios. They have currently lost almost $2 billion at the box office...
www.disneydining.com
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What a strange website. They list as "flops";Disney did lose a ton of money on movie flops and they will have to change course if they want to make money.
Disney Loses BILLIONS at the Box Office | Disney Dining
It's been a bad 15 months for Walt Disney Studios. They have currently lost almost $2 billion at the box office...
Lightyear (2022)
-Cost $200m, made just over $200m. ~Break even.
Thor Love and Thunder (2022)
-Cost $250m, made >$750m. Big success.
Strange World (2022)
-Cost $180m, made $74m. Flop.
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022)
-Cost $250m, made >$850m. Big success.
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (2023)
-Cost $200m, made $475m. Success.
Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 3 (2023)
-Cost $250m, made $845m. Big success.
The Little Mermaid (2023)
-Cost $250m, made $560m. Success.
Elemental (2023)
-Cost $200m, made $480m. Success.
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023)
-Cost $300m, made $380m. Moderate profit, though undoubtedly below expectation given the scale.
Haunted Mansion (2023)
-Cost $150m, made $117m. Flop.
So, uhrm, most of those were successful, several of them massively successful. Only two real flops, both of which were the cheapest to make. Far from 'losing billions', they're billions up from the global box office over that timeframe. I think Disney will be absolutely fine, and I think you need to stop getting your numbers from oddball sites that happen to say what you already think.
((All numbers sourced from The Numbers, a few of them spot-checked against other sources)).
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Why, when the site feeds into his narrative that catering to anyone who isn't exactly like him will lead to a company's ruination?
Bear in mind this is Hollywood, so Hollywood accounting applies. Hollywood only reports the production budget, not marketing or distribution costs -- and that's an often-dicey proposal, considering studios love to cross-itemize, not report post-production costs up to and including reshoots, to name a few among several book-cooking shenanigans. The real break-even point is usually two to three times the production budget, the smaller number for low-budget films that weren't widely distributed nor marketed, and the larger for tentpole releases.
This was a major release and heavily marketed. The consensus is it flopped.
This was a Marvel movie. Deadline has more concrete numbers about its actual cost, which serves as nice supplemental information on what I said about Hollywood accounting. It only made about $100m in box office once everything was said and done, so it made its money back but the best thing to say is it was modestly successful.
Same studio, same IP, same year, so we can safely assume it cost about the same to make as Thor 4. If that's true it did better than Thor 4, but by no means was it a big success.
Next verse, same as the first. The consensus is, like with Lightyear, it flopped.
See what I said about Black Panther 2.
See what I said about Quantumania.
See what I said about Lightyear.
Disney's rolling in it either way, but Marvel Studios in particular is probably closer to treading water right now than either extreme. But, nobody outside the company knows either way, because Disney doesn't really say anything about D+ streaming numbers -- and home entertainment figures are unreliable because only physical media sales are reported. The only thing we know is D+ subscription numbers peaked in 2022 Q4, and have been trending downwards since -- and that's likely more attributable to economic woes including inflation, than it is quality of content.
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U.S. Representative LaMonica McIver was charged on Monday for allegedly assaulting law enforcement officers outside of an ICE detention facility earlier this month.
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As a caution here, the box office take doesn't all go back to the production - obviously the cinema takes a big chunk. A general rule of thumb is that a film needs at least twice its budget in box office to make its money back, although can require as much as three times as much. So Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny is reckoned to have lost around $200 million.
The case can be made that some of the best of these underperformed in comparison to past record. A Marvel blockbuster would be expected to take in around $1 billion mark or higher. Thor: Love & Thunder is at the lower end of expectations for that sort of movie. Similarly a major kids movie would also be hoped to be in the zone of a billion or more (e.g. Frozen, Toy Story, Jumanji reboot), so $540 million for Snow White appears deeply underwhelming, even if it made its money back. However, those assumptions are pre-covid.
Covid-19 seems to have seriously damaged cinema-going long-term: obviously cinema all but stopped in 2020, but box office takings appear to have only recovered to about two-thirds of pre-Covid. Therefore, in the post-covid 'new normal' ~$800 million might be massive rather than mediocre, and $550 million disappointing rather than a flop. Presumably, money is coming in from somewhere else (e.g. streaming) if not the box office, but a lot of that is too opaque to know how much it's worth.
One way or another, weak box office isn't really a Disney problem, it's a movie industry problem: people are just going to the cinema a lot less.
My guess is they're watching TikiTok videos.
I just don't want to spend an arm and a leg to see a movie. One of my friends wanted to see Thunderbolts so I went with her. Otherwise, I'm watching kids movies. The movie industry is making very little off me
Same with video games. I'm really desperate to play BG3, and have liked Larian since D:OS2.... I still haven't purchased it as I don't think it's been worth the price
Far too much media is reliant on hype, pretending you need to see/play it. It's all fake and the sooner the marketing industry dies, the better the world will be
That being said. These movies could be a flop in their cinemas run but can recoup from sales of digital platforms and merchandise. This is way too complicated and long term, especially considering how you are meant to calculate streaming service like Disney+. So it's left out. You do need to double the budget but the cinema run does not tell the whole story
Disney has earnt way more money from me by their streaming platform than all box office of the movie they made over the last decade combined. Possibly 2 or 3 decades