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I don't know why you'd make this argue or why you'd care. If you are so offended by all the extra skin colour not matching, I would suggest that common sense is needed

Edit: Why would you write this? This clearly shows your definition of white does not match the census definition. You're proving my point

You used data that says the white population is 20% higher than your own and then complain why we aren't matching the higher percentage. It doesn't match your definition, you don't get to use it
Why would I be offended by it? Just because I think it's stupid and eye-rollingly cringe doesn't mean I'm offended. There is no kingdom in history that would have 4 random guards being 4 different races. It's true that if you have kingdoms in whatever world all looking super diverse, it's really hard to follow who is who, that's why the lore of some well done fiction world would never do that. And, of course, it just doesn't make sense in terms of human history.


Neither does your definition of white match the census definition...

Why can't you just admit Disney is being racist and purposefully inclusive? It's fucking common knowledge, it's in a Honest Trailers video that is as mainstream as it gets, it's not some say Daily Wire video or something. The last 3 Disney princesses being race swapped when the originals were white doesn't just happen by randomness. Funny that none of the minority races are ever switched. Just like Snow White being named after the snow storm (that literally everyone makes fun of), you could make Lilo some adopted white girl for example, but Disney would NEVER do that.

The detail of the "cost of the film" of ~350m is from Forbes, though it doesn't specify that's just the production budget, and is ~200m short of the revenue.



He's just talking about Mission Impossible. He's not setting a standard. 2 - 3x have variously been claimed by different places; the fact is it varies and we don't know, because these numbers aren't public knowledge in most cases.

I'm satisfied with acknowledging we don't know. Yet you seem intent on definitive statements of a massive loss, without anything beyond shitty non-source online magazines to back it up.
And what we do know is that 2x is at the very low end of estimated actual costs and you're using that number because it agrees with your point. If you use the known range and say that any point in that range has an equal chance of being true, chances are that The Little Mermaid lost money.
 

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And what we do know is that 2x is at the very low end of estimated actual costs and you're using that number because it agrees with your point.
No, we don't know that. You don't have the numbers. I don't know the numbers. But unlike you, I'm acknowledging I don't know, whereas you seem intent to speak with absolute certainty about enormous losses.
 
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No, we don't know that. You don't have the numbers. I don't know the numbers. But unlike you, I'm acknowledging I don't know, whereas you seem intent to speak with absolute certainty about enormous losses.
We have enough numbers and knowledge (based on theater takes, based on known production costs) to know that something like a Disney movie would need to make at least 2x at the box office to make money.
 

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We have enough numbers and knowledge (based on theater takes, based on known production costs) to know that something like a Disney movie would need to make at least 2x at the box office to make money.
....which Little Mermaid did.

Unless you've forgotten, you're arguing that Little Mermaid definitely made a huge loss despite making a fair bit over 2x its production costs.
 

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When chose a race over another (outside of a few exceptions), it's racism. I don't care if you're trying to correct for past racism, it's still racism.
But you want casting directors to specifically choose actors to match the race of previous depictions. You're arguing for one race to be chosen over others.
 
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If you aren't thinking "How do I make enough (/more) money to swim in?", you have no place on the board of a for-profit corporation.
The point being it could be a relatively stable profit generator that's not subject to the assorted shit that can impact box office sales and the like, a way to hedge against instability. Because "Everything one of the largest media companies in the world owns, available to stream" is enough of a hook to drive subs, especially if they don't make deals to stream on other platforms.

She claimed that "Grok is left leaning and continues to spread fake news and propaganda". Grok, which Elon Musk has claimed is the world's "smartest AI", has previously denied the Holocaust and pushed the narrative of "white genocide".
One of my favorite things to look for on X is cases where some far-right nutter asks Grok a question to defend their position, gets an answer they don't like and tries again and again asking for further details or various minutiae vainly trying to get it to back them when they're overtly wrong about something.

By "fake news and propaganda" she likely means non-Fox broadcast news, CNN, WaPo, NYT and the like. Basically anything left of Fox News, OAN and NewsMax.
 
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The point being it could be a relatively stable profit generator that's not subject to the assorted shit that can impact box office sales and the like, a way to hedge against instability. Because "Everything one of the largest media companies in the world owns, available to stream" is enough of a hook to drive subs, especially if they don't make deals to stream on other platforms.
I hear what you're saying.

But imagine that you are a thrusting executive itching to demonstrate your ambition, elan, and skills, rise up the ranks: you're going to pitch to the board that the company can bestride the streaming world like a colossus. And then you're the execs listening, and you know a big success here will increase revenue $30 billion and the stock price will go up 23% and that'll mean your bonus will be another $50 million... who is not going to do that? You might even know that the share price will spike just because investors are idiots who think tech is sexy even if the returns are very uncertain, who cares, that's your sweet $50 mill in the bank. The way some business twats speak, it's like corporations are either predator or prey, so if they're not the predator, they'll become the prey. There is no middle ground.

Even imagine the CEO who made that case - solid, reliable money-spinner to improve safety of the firm. He would be vulnerable to anyone pitching to the shareholders that he was a fuddy-duddy missing out paydirt: the shareholders get the slightest whiff they're missing out and they either turf out the CEO or force his hand. The shareholders don't care. They get their share rise and can sell out whilst on top. Sure someone might take a fall somewhere down the line, but that's someone else's problem.
 

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hang the fuck on, this has gotta go through the satire detector once more, 3 times the charm...

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American Bushido in Practice

Part II: Ukraine, Human Capital, and What it Actually Takes to Win “Big Boy” War
Secretary of Defense Rock
May 28, 2025



Since the post-9/11 era, U.S. military culture has been consumed with a singular ideal: the warfighter.1 Tactical proficiency, elite units, and lethality became watchwords for military competence, fueled by twenty years of dominance in counterinsurgency and special operations. The archetype of the rugged, rifle-clad operator became not just a recruitment pitch, but a strategic fantasy; a belief that grit, gear, and guts can overcome any challenge. But the war in Ukraine has shattered this illusion. In its place, a different truth emerges: war, real war, "Big Boy War" as one Ukrainian soldier half-jokingly called his war, is a contest of national endurance, systems integration, and most critically, human capital.2 It is fought and won not by a warrior elite alone but by citizen-soldiers, logistics officers, trench engineers, and the slow, grinding machinery of a mobilized society. The obsession with the warfighter has blinded the American military to the reality that modern war demands more than tactics; it demands a people prepared to endure and outlast.

At the end of the day, the warrior ethos, lethality, and grit, none of that will decide the outcome of a modern large-scale war. These concepts may shape morale and cohesion, but they are strategically secondary. The only things that truly matter in modern war are mass and logistics. Can you move enough men, machines, and munitions from point A to point B within a timeframe that aligns with operational demands?3 Can you concentrate sufficient force at the decisive point to overwhelm the enemy and exploit the breakthrough before they can react consistently? And perhaps most importantly, can you do this not just at the start of a war, but six months in, a year in, when initial stockpiles have been depleted, equipment has been lost, and the industrial base is groaning under demand?

As it currently exists, the American military, technologically sophisticated, expeditionary, and elite-heavy, is ill-suited to fight and win a prolonged, attritional conflict against a peer adversary.4 Yet, rather than asking, "How do we fight and win a war on an industrial scale?" the question has seemingly become, "How do we make our small force smaller and more deadly?"5 That might work against insurgents or small rogue states. It will not work against adversaries who can take a punch and throw two back.6

If, heaven forbid, the United States finds itself in a conflict with a near-peer adversary, the force that will be required to prevail will look hilariously different from the current one. It will be larger, more redundant, more integrated with civilian industry, and far more focused on sustaining mass over projecting finesse. This transformation isn’t theoretical; it’s a historical precedent.7 The U.S. military that stormed across Europe and the Pacific in 1945 bore little resemblance to the modest, poorly equipped, and undermanned force that existed in 1941. It had undergone a total metamorphosis: from a tiny peacetime army into an industrial-age war machine that could land entire armies on foreign shores, field tens of thousands of tanks and aircraft, and keep them supplied across oceans and continents on multiple fronts. That shift wasn’t just about weapons; it was about institutions, doctrine, and the mobilization of a society as a whole.

In the same way, the force that will win the next great war will not be the sleek, boutique military that dominates current defense thinking. It will require an army of warehouses, trains, factories, ports, and planning tables, an ecosystem rather than a gladiator corps. It will win not by striking harder, but by enduring longer, replacing losses faster, and arriving first with the most.


American Bradley’s in the service of the Ukrainian military

Ukraine's war has revealed the limits of America's preferred model of warfare. Despite receiving advanced Western weapons, Ukrainian brigades found themselves hampered not by a lack of lethality but by the inability to sustain complex combined-arms operations under constant fire. The myth that better gear and braver soldiers could crack entrenched defenses gave way to the realization that success requires something more mundane: scale, manpower, and institutional depth.8

In the early phases of the 2023 Summer counteroffensive, newly trained Ukrainian brigades, equipped with NATO gear and tactics and many staffed with Western-trained non-commissioned officers and officers, ran headlong into Russia’s layered defensive zones. Ukrainian planners were instructed to execute a mechanized bum rush with only a third of the support NATO forces typically require: no air superiority, limited artillery, and fragile logistics. Unsurprisingly, the UAF was unable to compensate. Tactical proficiency is no substitute for depth. The casualties were immense, morale suffered, and the initiative eventually slipped.9

This is not to suggest that armored vehicles or combined arms warfare have lost their value. On the contrary, the author maintains that a fully equipped Ukrainian military, bolstered by even functional air superiority, sufficient artillery, and robust logistical support, would have stood a far greater chance of achieving operational breakthroughs along multiple sectors of the front. The problem was never with the doctrine itself, but with the conditions under which it was applied. NATO-style combined arms maneuvering is built on the assumption of enablers that Ukraine never had: persistent air cover, deep stockpiles, and redundancy in manpower and machines. And yet somehow, one under-resourced, politically constrained, and ultimately partial attempt at executing air-land battle in Ukraine has somehow convinced an entire segment of the defense establishment that we should now pivot entirely to light infantry drone brigades, an idea driven less by operational necessity than by the commercial interests of defense-tech investors eager to shape the next procurement wave.10

Moreover, the political dynamics of mobilization were inextricably tied to this deficit. President Zelensky and the Ukrainian parliament might have been far more willing to bear the social and political costs of expanding conscription to include the under-25 demographic, often seen as fragile, irreplaceable, or emblematic of national hope, if there was confidence that these newly drafted 18 or 19 year-olds would be entering battle in M2 Bradley’s or Leopard 2s, not rusting Soviet-era BMP-1s built when the Berlin Wall still stood. It’s one thing to ask a generation to sacrifice; it’s another to send them into war with equipment older than their parents. Without the promise of survivability, support, and proper armament, mobilization becomes not just a political risk but a moral hazard.

Unsurprisingly, American commentary publicly and privately has essentially defaulted to blaming Ukrainian leadership for being too cautious or too reckless, depending on who you ask.11 Few seemed willing to accept the obvious: you cannot recreate the U.S. military’s effectiveness on paper and then subtract the hundred-thousand-person logistical base, overwhelming airpower, and the massive economy that finances it. That is not a failure of the Ukrainian soldier; it is a failure of Western imagination.12

Long war in Ukraine highlights need for U.S. Army to modernize ammo  production | PBS News
155 MM artillery Shells being manufactured in Scranton, PA.

It’s a strange dichotomy because most people in the defense policy space recognize the problems, whether in the defense industrial base, force structure, or operational theory. Many even have workable solutions, and in some areas, real progress has been made.13 For example, prior to the war in Ukraine, the U.S. was producing roughly 14,000 155 MM shells per month, the standard munition for artillery platforms.14 This was a figure suitable for counterinsurgency operations but laughably inadequate for a high-intensity conflict. Recognizing the scale of artillery consumption in Ukraine, where tens of thousands of shells are fired daily, the United States has invested $3.1 billion in reviving and expanding its production infrastructure across the country, increasing capacity in several factories and building new plants from scratch in Alabama and Texas.15 The results are beginning to show: by 2024, monthly output had increased to 40,000 shells, with current rates nearing 65,000. The target is to reach 100,000 shells per month by the end of 2026.

Yet despite this understanding and partial success, systemic change remains elusive. Elements within the current administration have begun to recognize that mass matters in modern warfare, but only in narrowly defined, technologically palatable ways. A notable example is the increasing emphasis on unmanned systems, particularly drones. Across various government and military leadership branches, there is an emerging consensus that large quantities of cheap, attritable drones are critical for modern battlefield success.16 Ukraine’s success with first-person-view (FPV) drones and Russia’s success with fiber-optic drones have only reinforced this view. However, this shift is often misinterpreted as strategic innovation when, in reality, both Ukraine and Russia are heavily relying on different drones because they are short on artillery platforms and ammo, and neither side possesses the capacity to conduct large-scale strike warfare from the air, let alone integrate it meaningfully with ground maneuvers.17

But this recognition remains highly compartmentalized. The value of mass is acknowledged when it involves drones, autonomous systems, or other tech-forward platforms that align with Silicon Valley defense startups, which supposedly require a minimal human footprint. In these areas, the rhetoric has shifted—terms like “drone swarms,” “massed ISR,” and “attritable autonomy” now pepper press releases, strategic documents, and congressional testimonies.18 There is funding. There is enthusiasm. There is even urgency. Yet this same logic is rarely applied to the broader force. There is little comparable urgency when it comes to mass-producing ammunition, scaling up armored vehicle output (in fact, they’re supposedly cutting back), or examining personnel systems to handle a mobilization-level influx. Creating mass in the form of more infantry battalions, logistics regiments, or human sustainment infrastructure still feels alien.

The administration is willing to embrace mass when it’s silicon-based and software-coded, but remains hesitant when mass implies human beings in uniform, long supply lines, and steel-and-diesel solutions. The current force structure plan put forth by the Army secretary outlines reductions to “responsibly balance end strength” in pursuit of a “leaner, more lethal Army.”19 This selective embrace of mass reveals a deeper problem: the desire to modernize warfare without confronting it in full. It’s a lot easier to imagine fleets of autonomous drones than it is to imagine a national conscription policy. And so we get an incomplete doctrine, one that accepts the logic of mass in one domain but avoids its implications in the others.

The Army’s current doctrine, Field Manual 3-0, emphasizes large-scale combat operations and multi-domain integration, while also considering reducing the force by 90,000 soldiers or eliminating a significant portion of its armor. It’s a contradiction that seemingly no one is entirely comfortable with answering because it would require asking all of American society to do something, not just a small group of professional volunteers. The operative word repeatedly cited in FM 3-0 is “operations,” a term that reflects the Army’s longstanding tendency to privilege the mechanics of battle over its meaning. This orientation underscores the fundamentally anti-Clausewitzian nature of the U.S. military. Rather than treating war as a political act conducted through violence, the military treats it as a series of operational problems to be solved with technology, precision, and maneuver. Strategy is often retrofitted onto operations, rather than shaping them from the outset. Clausewitz taught that the nature of war is determined by the political context in which it is waged, yet American campaigns, from Vietnam to Iraq to Afghanistan, repeatedly demonstrate an institutional inability to connect tactical and operational success with coherent political outcomes. FM 3-0 continues this tradition, offering sophisticated visions of battlefield integration while eliding the larger question of how any of it serves strategic objectives rooted in political necessity.

The most successful adaptations of the Ukraine war have come not from top-tier warriors but from bottom-up improvisation and the steady emergence of a mobilized citizenry. Ukraine's Territorial Defense Forces and national guard and police units, initially seen as a stopgap, have become indispensable. Reservists, teachers, IT workers, and farmers found themselves on the frontlines, digging trenches, operating drones, laying mines, and coordinating fire missions. They fought because they had to, not because they were lethal, but because they were committed.20

Drone teams, often manned by civilians with no prior military experience, have become the most effective element of Ukraine's tactical ecosystem.21 Not because they are elite, but because they are abundant, flexible, and creative. These small units have integrated commercial technology into persistent surveillance and strike platforms, compensating for a lack of traditional airpower. In a war of attrition, ingenuity and persistence matter far more than individual lethality.22

Contrast this with Western military planning, which still fetishizes elite formations and boutique capabilities. Much of the U.S. defense budget is eaten up by small, expensive, high-maintenance platforms designed for force projection, not force absorption.23 The idea of mass, a military capable of enduring loss, replacing personnel, and sustaining operations over years, has atrophied. Decades of professionalization have created a force that is tactically sharp but numerically shallow. Every serious analysis of a conflict with peer adversaries highlights attritional warfare and contested logistics, the military discovers that it cannot grow, train, or absorb losses at a sufficient rate.24


Drafted Soldiers from the 156th Mechanized Brigade in Training

Ukraine, despite its systemic flaws, has mobilized hundreds of thousands across all sectors of society. That effort has not been without difficulty or controversy, but it has allowed Ukraine to sustain a war that would have broken smaller, more professionalized forces.25 The Soviet-style reserve system that Kyiv inherited, outdated in many ways, proved more adaptable than many expected. More importantly, Ukraine’s societal mobilization has created an ecology of war effort: drone hobbyists, civilian logistics networks, local repair crews, and open-source intelligence volunteers. This is not a war of the professional elite. It is a war of the engaged citizen.

Ukraine has merely shown what war at scale is fundamentally about: manpower, logistics, production, and adaptation. “Lethality” matters, but only in context. A HIMARS strike means little if there are no drones to spot, no batteries to reload, no crews trained to fire. Killing one tank is good. Replacing the losses your side takes by doing so is better. Surviving the next phase of the war is the best course of action.26

Meanwhile, the U.S. has structured its forces to avoid precisely this kind of war. There is no mechanism to surge personnel without years of preparation.27 The military is a narrow slice of society, increasingly disconnected from the population it serves. When mobilization is discussed, it is often portrayed as a nightmare, rather than a necessity. But any future war with China, Russia, or even Iran will not be won by the warriors already in uniform. It will be won or lost by whether American society can actually produce the human capital required to sustain conflict.28

What Ukraine has demonstrated, and what the American military must learn, is that endurance is a strategic asset. The side that adapts, replaces, sustains, and outlasts wins. That system must be expansive and inclusive. Citizen-soldiers, national service options, civil reserve fleets, industrial partnerships, and education programs must all be considered core elements of defense. A factory producing artillery shells in Scranton is as essential as a special operations team overseas. A software engineer coordinating logistics algorithms may do more to win a war than an infantry platoon. Big Boy War is not about who shoots best, but who shows up and keeps showing up the longest. Ukraine has become the test case for this 21st-century model of total war. Its successes have come from adaptation, not annihilation. Its endurance reflects not military perfection but societal resilience.29

The next war will not be won by warfighters alone. Citizens will win it. By systems. By societies that can mobilize, adapt, and endure. The obsession with lethality and elite units is a legacy of a different era, a comfortable fantasy sustained by asymmetric wars and air superiority. But Big Boy War is back. And it does not care how many pushups you can do and how much you can lift. It cares if your army still exists after six months. It cares if your factories can retool in a week. It cares if your society believes in the fight.​

1
Part I focuses on the emergence of “American Bushido” more broadly in society.
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Text Exchange with Ukrainian Soldier via Telegram, October 4, 2022.
3
See MacArthur's Ghost by Tony Stark
4
David Barno and Nora Bensahel, “America is not Prepared for a Protracted War,” War on the Rocks, December 4, 2024 and Hal Brands, “The Next Global War,” Foreign Affairs, January 26, 2024.
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Ryan D. McCarthy, “The U.S. Army Is Finally Pivoting Toward Future Threats,” New York Times, May 13, 2025.
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U.S. Department of Defense, Summary of the 2022 National Defense Strategy, 2022.
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Russell Weigley, The American Way of War: A History of United States Military Strategy and Policy (Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1977).
8
Jen Kirby, “What went wrong in Ukraine’s counteroffensive,” Vox, August 8, 2023.
9
See Adam Entous, “The Partnership: The Secret History of the War in Ukraine,” New York Times, March 29, 2025, Washington Post Staff, “Miscalculations, divisions marked offensive planning by U.S., Ukraine,” Washington Post, December 4, 2023 and “In Ukraine, a war of incremental gains as counteroffensive stalls.”
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Discussed further down in this article.
11
Michael Brown, “The Empty Arsenal of Democracy,” Foreign Affairs, April 22, 2025.
12
Josh Luckenbaugh and Stew Magnuson, “Arms Manufacturers Catching Up with World's Insatiable Need for 155mm Rounds,” National Defense Magazine, September 11, 2024.
13
Steve Beyon, “Here Are All the Big Cuts and Changes Coming to the Army,” Military.com, May 22, 2025.
14
Jack Watling , Oleksandr V Danylyuk and Nick Reynolds, “Preliminary Lessons from Ukraine’s Offensive Operations, 2022–23,” RUSI Special Report, July 18, 2024.
15
Mike Stone, “US Army opens new 155mm artillery munitions plant in Texas,” Reuters, May 29, 2024.
16
Sean Carberry, “Army Desperately Seeking Small, Affordable Drones,” National Defense Magazine, August 1, 2024.
17
Please take a look at my last article, Ukrainian Abwehrschlacht: Defense in Depth in Modern Warfare on some of the current problems with drones.
18
Press Release, “Deputy Secretary of Defense Hicks Announces First Tranche of Replicator Capabilities Focused on All Domain Attritable Autonomous Systems,” DoD, May 6, 2024. Dennis Teefy, “Supporting the Army ISR Task Force Modernization Strategy,” U.S. Army, February 21, 2023.
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Steve Beynon, “Army Planners Are Weighing Force Reductions of Up to 90,000 Active-Duty Soldiers,” Military.com, April 3, 2025.
20
Jack Watling and Nick Reynolds, “Meatgrinder: Russian Tactics in the Second Year of Its Invasion of Ukraine,” RUSI Special Report, February 2024.
21
Alia Shoaib, “Inside the elite Ukrainian drone unit founded by volunteer IT experts: 'We are all soldiers now,” Business Insider, April 9, 2022.
22
Andrew F. Krepinevich Jr., “The Pentagon's Wasting Assets,” Foreign Affairs, July 1, 2009.
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For example, $172 Billion, or 18% of the FY 2024 Defense Budget was allocated to new weapons. See Brown, “The Empty Arsenal of Democracy.”
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For stories on Ukrainian Mobilization and recruitment, see Oleksandr V Danylyuk, “The Current State of Ukrainian Mobilisation and Ways to Boost Recruitment” RUSI, August 8, 2024, Simon Schlegel “Mobilisation, Peacemaking and Deterrence in Ukraine,” International Crisis Group, December 17, 2024, and Julia Kazdobina and Jakob Hedenskog “Challenges of the Ukrainian Mobilization,” SCEEUS Report No. 5, 2024, March 8, 2024.
25
Peter W. Singer and August Cole, Ghost Fleet: A Novel of the Next World War (New York: Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 2015).
26
U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC), “The U.S. Army in Multi-Domain Operations 2028,” 2018.
27
Col. Chris H. Bachmann, U.S. Army, “Mobilizing in the Twenty-First Century,” Military Review, March-April 2021 and Matthew C. Gaetke, “Mobilization in the 21st Century Asking the Right Question,” Joint Force Quarterly 99, October, 2020.
28
FM 3-0, “Operations,” U.S. Army Field Manual, October 2022.
29
Michael Clarke, “Ukraine and the Return of Industrial War,” *War on the Rocks*, January 2024.
 
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