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The absence of evidence that vaccines give you superpowers is evidence in itself that they do.
It's very much an "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" argument they're making. You can't prove that vaccines won't give you the powers of the Hulk (which was a side effect listed in VAERS), so until you prove the negative we have to assume they will, right?
 

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How fast the US goes to shit, truly amazing.

And the best part is, it hasn't even been a year yet. Good luck trying to undo all this fuckery.
 

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The one thing I agree with Europe on.
 

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The one thing I agree with Europe on.
Screw that Andrew Baker guy.

If your religion still requires the mutilation of genitals in the year 2025, you can fuck off.
 
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However, according to Trump, telling soldiers to not obey illegal orders is "punishable by death".
I'm glad that we learnt so much about the dangers of encouraging political violence from Charlie Kirk's assassination.
 
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More comparable would be the last time the PRC fought another nation with a full standing army-- Vietnam. They could have conquered Vietnam. They withdrew of their own accord after a month when the casualties reached the thousands and it threatened to rupture their international relationships.
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Of course it does. But generalisations are of limited value in the face of contextual information.
Contextually, China's attitude is that it has supreme authority over all things Chinese. This even goes towards the portrayal of Chinese culture abroad: witness for instance that China feels it has the right to dictate to us how our museums portray Chinese history and culture. It thinks it has the right to control the views and opinions of Chinese emigrants on their homeland, as per the plentiful reports of spying and intimidation of them in Western countries. It regularly tells our politicians and media, formally and officially, to shut the fuck up about of anything relating to China unless it's a China-approved message, sometimes with added threats and insults.

And then we can consider its attitude to what it views as its territory: with Tibet already standing as an example. It absolutely views Taiwan as its territory. And in terms of its own internal dealings, it will violently suppress dissent, brutalise 're-educate' its own citizens en-masse to ensure proper thought, or destroy the democratic institutions of a province it once promised to respect.

Finally, let's not forget that China is so concerned about international opinion that it expended about 200,000 of its citizens defending North Korea against a United Nations mandate force.

That's the sort of contextual information you need to think about.

America has a powerful military. Countries with powerful militaries tend to use them. Does it therefore follow that invasion of Canada, Mexico, the UK etc is inevitable?
That's kind of a funny argument, because the USA has invaded all those countries (considering Canada and the UK were sort of the same thing). And indeed, literally just threatened to take military action against or otherwise subjugate two of them.
 
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Contextually, China's attitude is that it has supreme authority over all things Chinese. This even goes towards the portrayal of Chinese culture abroad: witness for instance that China feels it has the right to dictate to us how our museums portray Chinese history and culture. It thinks it has the right to control the views and opinions of Chinese emigrants on their homeland, as per the plentiful reports of spying and intimidation of them in Western countries. It regularly tells our politicians and media, formally and officially, to shut the fuck up about of anything relating to China unless it's a China-approved message, sometimes with added threats and insults.

And then we can consider its attitude to what it views as its territory: with Tibet already standing as an example. It absolutely views Taiwan as its territory. And in terms of its own internal dealings, it will violently suppress dissent, brutalise 're-educate' its own citizens en-masse to ensure proper thought, or destroy the democratic institutions of a province it once promised to respect.

Finally, let's not forget that China is so concerned about international opinion that it expended about 200,000 of its citizens defending North Korea against a United Nations mandate force.

That's the sort of contextual information you need to think about.
Sure, this is a more compelling line of argument. Yet it expended 200,000 troops to protect its existing ally, not to annex South Korea. The PRC has never approached a fraction of this personnel or material investment in expansion.

That's kind of a funny argument, because the USA has invaded all those countries (considering Canada and the UK were sort of the same thing). And indeed, literally just threatened to take military action against or otherwise subjugate two of them.
Indeed, but we're in predictive mode here, and all those countries remain sovereign entities. If the "means -> definitely will invade" calculus holds, all of these countries are a matter of time away from annexation into America.
 

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Funny how ramblings of bat shit crazy people are legitimised as being a "political issue".

VaCcInEs CaUsE aUtIsM.

Fucking American lunatics.
Vaccines became political during covid and had nothing to do with RFK Jr.


He thinks that people who are pro-vaccine are doing it for ideological reasons, not science
When the "trust the science" people ignored the science; yes, it is then ideological. Those people ignored natural immunity (if that doesn't work, then the vaccine doesn't work), the vaccine didn't provide community benefit yet they mandated the vaccine (nonsensical, nonscientific), the vaccine didn't slow transmission (yet it was coined the "pandemic of the unvaccinated"), and then they snuck the covid vaccine into the childhood vaccine schedule (that no one wanted). All that is why there is push back on vaccines, whole vaccine/autism RFK Jr thing has been around for decades and like no one cares about that. People do care about what just happen with covid though and that caused more vaccine hesitancy than RFK Jr could've ever done himself (you think people stopped taking Tylenol?). It's the left causing this new wave by being unscientific.
 

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And how is that harmful?

I am doubtful a faulty dietary advice can be more harmful than posting anything that gives credance to there being a link between vaccines and autism, since my understanding is that that is a bunch of humbug.
 
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And how is that harmful?

I am doubtful a faulty dietary advice can be more harmful than posting anything that gives credance to there being a link between vaccines and autism, since my understanding is that that is a bunch of humbug.
The vaccine/autism thing has been around for decades, has the US suffered in any significant way due to that? Now look at what has happened to US health with regards to chronic metabolic diseases like diabetes or fatty liver disease since the whole "war on fat" campaign. The reason why type 1 diabetes is called juvenile diabetes is because that was the only diabetes kids would get, now kids are getting type 2 diabetes and same thing with fatty liver disease (kids getting that was essentially unheard of). The CDC article recommends fat free milk, which is the least healthy milk because you removed the good stuff (fat) that has stuff like C15 fatty acid, keep the bad stuff (sugar), and you fortify it with vitamin d that is a fat soluble nutrient yet remove the fat so you can't actually get the vitamin d which obviously makes no sense. The article says saturated fats should be replaced, which is very harmful to tell people (and we have real world results showing that over the last 50+ years). Saturated fats have IIRC the best defense from becoming oxidized, which is a significant factor in contributing to heart disease. For some reason, they can't just admit they were wrong about fat and just keep doubling down on the narrative.
 

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The vaccine/autism thing has been around for decades, has the US suffered in any significant way due to that?
Yes. Many thousands of people have died and suffered from preventable diseases, because charlatans have convinced them not to vaccinate.
 
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The vaccine/autism thing has been around for decades, has the US suffered in any significant way due to that? Now look at what has happened to US health with regards to chronic metabolic diseases like diabetes or fatty liver disease since the whole "war on fat" campaign. The reason why type 1 diabetes is called juvenile diabetes is because that was the only diabetes kids would get, now kids are getting type 2 diabetes and same thing with fatty liver disease (kids getting that was essentially unheard of). The CDC article recommends fat free milk, which is the least healthy milk because you removed the good stuff (fat) that has stuff like C15 fatty acid, keep the bad stuff (sugar), and you fortify it with vitamin d that is a fat soluble nutrient yet remove the fat so you can't actually get the vitamin d which obviously makes no sense. The article says saturated fats should be replaced, which is very harmful to tell people (and we have real world results showing that over the last 50+ years). Saturated fats have IIRC the best defense from becoming oxidized, which is a significant factor in contributing to heart disease. For some reason, they can't just admit they were wrong about fat and just keep doubling down on the narrative.
Wait what? Kids used to get diabetes type 1 and are now getting diabetes type 2? The former is more dangerous; why would that be a bad thing?

Apart from that: could you please cite your sources? I found one article about fatty liver disease incidence increasing remarkably, but it didn't mention anything about milk consumption as a potential cause of the rising numbers.
 

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Oopsie! The Platform Formerly Known as Twitter has accidentally outed a large number of MAGA and US conservative accounts as foreign-controlled.


Many of us already knew this, but extremely stupid people fell for it, and helped other countries in their efforts to destroy America from the inside.
 

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Oopsie! The Platform Formerly Known as Twitter has accidentally outed a large number of MAGA and US conservative accounts as foreign-controlled.


Many of us already knew this, but extremely stupid people fell for it, and helped other countries in their efforts to destroy America from the inside.
Also caught in the crossfire, a ton of left wing accounts, including at least one I remember Seanchaidh linking to here.

I don't know if it takes an extremely stupid person to fall for these things, to not realize that there are people trying to appeal to your politics and manipulative you, but if you see this story and don't notice the people trying to manipulate you, you're definitely falling for it.
 

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Vaccines became political during covid and had nothing to do with RFK Jr.




When the "trust the science" people ignored the science; yes, it is then ideological. Those people ignored natural immunity (if that doesn't work, then the vaccine doesn't work), the vaccine didn't provide community benefit yet they mandated the vaccine (nonsensical, nonscientific), the vaccine didn't slow transmission (yet it was coined the "pandemic of the unvaccinated"), and then they snuck the covid vaccine into the childhood vaccine schedule (that no one wanted). All that is why there is push back on vaccines, whole vaccine/autism RFK Jr thing has been around for decades and like no one cares about that. People do care about what just happen with covid though and that caused more vaccine hesitancy than RFK Jr could've ever done himself (you think people stopped taking Tylenol?). It's the left causing this new wave by being unscientific.
I mean, yes. You went on about trusting your version of science and that science was a lie. So, this is true. Everyone else analysed your version of science and it was left wanting

Vaccines have reduced Covid deaths by 2/3. I KNOW you don't care about that, otherwise you can't claim it 'had no community benefits'. THIS is what you call ideological

No one snuck anything in. You were told from the start that adults were getting the vaccine first, then children. If you did not know this in 2025, that's a you-not-listening problem. Most parents wanted it because children died during Covid. If you don't get the vaccine, there's a chance that your child will die. It's that simple. As a parent, it's not your job to kill your kid because your feelings are hurt

Everyone cared about vaccines and autism. Scientists listened to these complaints and literally changed vaccines many times as people made reasons why vaccines caused autism. When they took those ingredients out, Autism still went up. They listened to you, did EXACTLY what you wanted and Autism still went up. Because the link is ideological. not scientific

No, there is no increase in vaccine hesitancy. There has ALWAYS been vaccine hesitancy for 200 years. It's ideological. Anti-vaxxers are not looking for vaccines to be safe. Ever.

All RFK has done this year is deregulated some regulations. Some are beneficial, some probably don't make a difference. Some, like getting rid of the canned fruit regulation, means that no actual fruit needs to be in canned fruit. RFK does not care about health. He's getting paid to make food unhealthy
 
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