Funny Events of the "Woke" world

[Phoenixmgs]

Nobody has said that's what's required.

Those two federal courts have very explicitly said what is required.

And it was not followed.

Yes, it was followed, you literally have decades of the same thing being followed.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/01/trump-deportations-court-ruling-00321455

Not that this will convince anyone who's determined that everything is kosher, but a Trump-appointed judge ruled that Trump's use of the Alien Enemies Act as justification for the deportations is unlawful, as it only applies when the country is under armed, organized attack, and gang activity does not meet that bar.

The Alien Enemies Act isn't even required.

Yes, they can, but those same immigrants can ask for judicial review and when they do they are legally entitled to it, which I have also posted about, and provided proof of. They have been denied this right, and therefore denied due process. You seem to be completely ignoring that part despite the fact that I've addressed it multiple times.



No he hasn't, the Trump administration has not asked for his return.



I literally posted multiple articles about it in this thread, and it is a huge story. I happened last week.



You've chosen to ignore all proof. You are not arguing in good faith.

I don't believe any of your sources said that.

El Salvador Is Said to Have Spurned U.S. Request to Return Abrego Garcia

It remained unclear whether the diplomatic effort was a genuine bid by the White House to address the plight of the immigrant, Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia.

www.nytimes.com

If it's the story I just found, did you want the kids to not be with their mother? The mother was deported, not the kids. Obviously if a parent is deported, they probably want their kids to come along. This isn't a story...

If all these Trump deportations are so illegal, the Abrego Garcia story wouldn't be a story because the story would be that Trump is illegally deporting hundreds/thousands of people and that's not the story. Every other president has done this. You don't care about this when your team does it.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

The Left just can't fucking stop, can they?

Moriarty: New charging policy taking race into consideration is necessary, constitutional

The Hennepin County Attorney says the new policy is needed to address unconscious bias.

www.startribune.com

 

[Silvanus]

Yes, it was followed, you literally have decades of the same thing being followed.

Notice was not given. There was no opportunity to request judicial review or habeas. They were taken to the airport the morning after the order was given, and that order wasn't public at the time. Multiple federal courts have stated that is insufficient.

Recurring reminder: you are defending not only their deportation, but their maximum security imprisonment without charge.

 

[Trunkage]

Notice was not given. There was no opportunity to request judicial review or habeas. They were taken to the airport the morning after the order was given, and that order wasn't public at the time. Multiple federal courts have stated that is insufficient.

Recurring reminder: you are defending not only their deportation, but their maximum security imprisonment without charge.

I could understand some people defending deportation. I can't understand some people defending imprisonment

Just like I can't understand someone claiming a clearly photoshopped photo as real

 

[Schadrach]

El Salvador Is Said to Have Spurned U.S. Request to Return Abrego Garcia

It remained unclear whether the diplomatic effort was a genuine bid by the White House to address the plight of the immigrant, Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia.

www.nytimes.com

Because El Salvador refusing to hand over guy Trump doesn't actually want handed over in response to literally no pressure to demand his return is not shocking. Lots of things Trump could do to facilitate his return, including something as simple as threatening to not pay him to keep the people we've shipped him if he doesn't return the ones we ask to return.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

I don't believe any of your sources said that.

Said what? What part are you responding to?

If it's the story I just found, did you want the kids to not be with their mother? The mother was deported, not the kids. Obviously if a parent is deported, they probably want their kids to come along. This isn't a story...

It's actually several kids (7 at this point). In one case their father is a US citizen and the children are US citizens, the children should have been left with him. In another case one of the kids has cancer and was taken without consultation with his medical team.

The mothers were deported without judicial review, without access to lawyers, and without being able to communicate with their families (who are in the US legally and would have been able to take the kids) to arrange for the care of the children.

Children who are U.S. citizens deported along with foreign-born mothers, attorneys say

Nearing 100 days in office, the Trump administration continues to push further on its immigration crackdown by deporting families and targeting sanctuary cities. White House correspondent Laura Barrón-López reports on three deported American citizens.

www.pbs.org

Attorneys dispute Trump officials' claim that deported moms willingly took their U.S. citizen children

In new details, attorneys say ICE explicitly told one mother to bring her children with her to a check-in and knew in advance that another mother’s child had Stage 4 cancer.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Gergar12]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/03/australia/australia-election-results-albanese-dutton-intl-hnk

As an American, I am so jealous.

 

[Trunkage]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/03/australia/australia-election-results-albanese-dutton-intl-hnk

As an American, I am so jealous.

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What's even worse is that Albo is pretty incompetent, always making stupid compromises that don't make sense and can't handle a crisis. His team is better than he is

While Dutton did not lean into Trumpism too much during the campaign as even he can see Trump is toxic, he can't whitewash his previous voting and policy record.

But, I don't know who would actually want to be a government at this time. You can plan all you want but the big toddler across the ocean can just knock down whatever you've built

 

[Gergar12]

What's even worse is that Albo is pretty incompetent, always making stupid compromises that don't make sense and can't handle a crisis. His team is better than he is

While Dutton did not lean into Trumpism too much during the campaign as even he can see Trump is toxic, he can't whitewash his previous voting and policy record.

But, I don't know who would actually want to be a government at this time. You can plan all you want but the big toddler across the ocean can just knock down whatever you've built

At least you don't have a reactionary climate opportunist as your head of state.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

Trump has confirmed that he could get Abrego Garcia back from El Salvador if he wanted, but he just doesn't want to.

Trump says 'I could' get Abrego Garcia back from El Salvador

President Donald Trump addressed the deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia in an exclusive interview with ABC News.

abcnews.go.com

He has confirmed that he is actively defying supreme court orders because he just doesn't feel like following them.

 

[BrawlMan]

Birdman exposing the grift.
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[Phoenixmgs]

Notice was not given. There was no opportunity to request judicial review or habeas. They were taken to the airport the morning after the order was given, and that order wasn't public at the time. Multiple federal courts have stated that is insufficient.

Recurring reminder: you are defending not only their deportation, but their maximum security imprisonment without charge.

The process is designed to allow DHS to remove individuals immediately; the entire process (including the removal) may occur within 24 hours.

Because El Salvador refusing to hand over guy Trump doesn't actually want handed over in response to literally no pressure to demand his return is not shocking. Lots of things Trump could do to facilitate his return, including something as simple as threatening to not pay him to keep the people we've shipped him if he doesn't return the ones we ask to return.

I don't really care if Trump wants him back or not. I care about if he's actually breaking laws or defying court orders.

Said what? What part are you responding to?



It's actually several kids (7 at this point). In one case their father is a US citizen and the children are US citizens, the children should have been left with him. In another case one of the kids has cancer and was taken without consultation with his medical team.

The mothers were deported without judicial review, without access to lawyers, and without being able to communicate with their families (who are in the US legally and would have been able to take the kids) to arrange for the care of the children.

Children who are U.S. citizens deported along with foreign-born mothers, attorneys say

Nearing 100 days in office, the Trump administration continues to push further on its immigration crackdown by deporting families and targeting sanctuary cities. White House correspondent Laura Barrón-López reports on three deported American citizens.

www.pbs.org

Attorneys dispute Trump officials' claim that deported moms willingly took their U.S. citizen children

In new details, attorneys say ICE explicitly told one mother to bring her children with her to a check-in and knew in advance that another mother’s child had Stage 4 cancer.

www.nbcnews.com

There's no proof they were denied due process.

"We're keeping families together," he said. "What we did was remove children with their mothers who requested the children depart with them. There's a parental decision."

Three US citizen children, one with cancer, deported to Honduras, lawyers say

Trump's border czar Tom Homan says the mothers had made the choice for their citizen children to be removed with them.

www.bbc.com

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/03/australia/australia-election-results-albanese-dutton-intl-hnk

As an American, I am so jealous.

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You would not want to live in Australia.

 

[Agema]

Trump has confirmed that he could get Abrego Garcia back from El Salvador if he wanted, but he just doesn't want to.

Although bear in mind that Trump would say he can do anything at all no matter what he was asked, because that's all part of him pretending he's incredibly powerful and amazing.

But a broken clock, etc.

 

[Silvanus]

The process is designed to allow DHS to remove individuals immediately; the entire process (including the removal) may occur within 24 hours.

This is a part of the American Immigration Council's description of 'Reinstatement of Removal'. It applies only to those who have already received a deportation order in the past. So the notice, the judicial review, the chance to file for habeas? 'Reinstatement of Removal' applies only in situations when those processes have already been afforded.

 

[Gergar12]

The process is designed to allow DHS to remove individuals immediately; the entire process (including the removal) may occur within 24 hours.


I don't really care if Trump wants him back or not. I care about if he's actually breaking laws or defying court orders.


There's no proof they were denied due process.

"We're keeping families together," he said. "What we did was remove children with their mothers who requested the children depart with them. There's a parental decision."

Three US citizen children, one with cancer, deported to Honduras, lawyers say

Trump's border czar Tom Homan says the mothers had made the choice for their citizen children to be removed with them.

www.bbc.com

You would not want to live in Australia.

Buddy, I live in Ohio. Our state government keeps trying to follow the president's lead, and I am sure this is happening everywhere. Cutbacks to NPR and PBS, where I have been near (Near a OSU is a NPR building) in the federal government, Lifewise, religious influence in public schools(Linda Mcmahon for example), where the religious preachers(Lifewise in my City) take students/kids out of classrooms to religious seminars, which no one can do anything about otherwise Republicans, and hard-wingers throw a hissy fit(I have seen on the news people murdering school board members which is why I rejected the democrats offering me to run for it)—layoffs everywhere, rural, urban, and everywhere in between.

While China is laughing at us, they are laughing at the US on TikTok, Reddit, and X. And they should. We teach about a religious text that is falling in relevance by the day to children who abuse it to get out of school, while they are graduating from 6 of the best engineering colleges in the world, while they have the Gaokao, the hardest test in the world, here in the US some schools don't even test for the ACT/SAT. We are laying people off because of AI. They lay people off only in blue-collar professions(A crappy thing too) so that they keep white collar human capital alive(Granted, 996 is still a thing, so burnout is real too).

 

[Thaluikhain]

You would not want to live in Australia.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

To be fair, I wouldn't, but that's just because I don't like spiders.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

There's no proof they were denied due process.

"We're keeping families together," he said. "What we did was remove children with their mothers who requested the children depart with them. There's a parental decision."

Three US citizen children, one with cancer, deported to Honduras, lawyers say

Trump's border czar Tom Homan says the mothers had made the choice for their citizen children to be removed with them.

www.bbc.com

There's a lot of proof that they were denied due process.

No judge saw them, in one case the mother was allowed to speak to her husband, and their phone call was cut off the moment her husband mentioned trying to get her legal assistance, denying her any legal representation. In another case the husband was trying to get an injunction filed at the court and the Trump administration sped up the mother's deportation so that she would be out of the country by the time the court opened the next day.

As far as the claim that they were trying to keep families together and that the mothers wanted to bring their children with them, that's addressed multiple times in the articles I provided. The women's families think that's bullshit as do the legal teams. Any statements by them appear to be coerced, and ICE did not allow them the opportunity to speak with anyone who could have taken the children.

Do you really think that a mother would willingly take a 4 year old with cancer out of the country with her without the child's medication and without consultation with their medical team? Really?

 

[Gordon_4]

That’s an oddly specific statement from him.

 

[Trunkage]

That’s an oddly specific statement from him.

Can I just say, I am absolutely fine with Phoenixmgs not wanting to live in Australia.