Furry Morality Question

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mcnally86

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Pinstar said:
mcnally86 said:
Pinstar said:
I fail to see a downside.
OK maybe one.

Say I took the serum and turned into a raccoon and my wife took it and turned into, say, an arctic fox. Would we be able to have another child together? Or would our one son be it. If we gave him the serum, would he turn into some sort of fox/raccoon hybrid or something else entirely?
You would be as sterile as a mule.
Sterile with my other-species wife, or sterile in general (Meaning we'd be SOL on more kids even if she went to the same species as me)

I still would do it, I'd just wait to finish having kids before taking the plunge.
Hybrids are sterile Google mule, some cats and dogs cant viably cross even. In my opinion it would be a pretty horrible to pick for your child what species they would be.

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Absolutely disgusting. There is already a huge social inequality gap in the developed world. Something like this would only serve to widen it even further. People would be denied opportunities because they could not afford to purchase this serum. People would be incapable of doing as much as those who were fortunate enough to get the wealth needed to acquire it. Some people will merely use the serum to make up for their own lack of effort. Such a thing will only bring problems to our society, and thus must not be used.
you sir are either trolling, or just dont think before you post. you say that something that will further widen the gap between developed and un-developed worlds, and give people opportunities over those who cannot purchase the "serum", and that such a thing must not be used.

why then, i must ask, are you using a computer? or electricity? or indoor plumbing? or soap? or refrigeration? or automobiles, etc, etc? ALL of these things were, at one point, restrictively expensive, to the point where only those with lots of money or power could use them. i'm sure there were opponents of all these things as well, stating that "such a thing would only bring problems to our society!"

if you're so concerned about EVERYONE being equal, you should donate your electronics, clothing, food, etc, to those less fortunate. otherwise, by your logic, you are keeping those people down
You are keeping people down just by living. And its not about the OP needing to keep people equal he is stating when there is a big enough imbalance, Vivla La Revolution!
 

Dexiro

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As an avid partaker in furfaggotry I would take the serum without hesitation :D Though I'd probably wait a little while for people to get used to the idea, consult friends and co-workers and whatnot. Conservative types would probably hate on the idea, but they hate everything.
 

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Seeing as how Spider Man Unlimited is based around this premise, I think I would go watch that series and all its prophecies (genetic race war, superhuman on human hate crimes, euthanasia of those unresponsive to mutation, etc.) before deciding who to side with.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
Absolutely disgusting. There is already a huge social inequality gap in the developed world. Something like this would only serve to widen it even further. People would be denied opportunities becuase they could not afford to purchase this serum. People would be incapable of doing as much as those who were fortunate enough to get the wealth needed to acquire it. Some people will merely use the serum to make up for their own lack of effort. Such a thing will only bring problems to our society, and thus must not be used.

As for it turning people into an animal human hybrid, that just makes a bad thing even worse. Hybrids brought about through the manipulation of genes should not be allowed in society. It would lead to a ton of discrimination from both sides. Humans would resent them for being "unnatural", while hybrids would view themselves as the superior species due to their genetic modifications. This would cause a ton of problems, obviously.
Very good answer i think..

This is some x-men stuff right there, guessing you've seen the movies since you pretty much described em..
 

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It amuses me that furries think they are some how being discriminated against. Being mocked becuase of your sexual fetish is not discrimination. People only berate furries becuase they go out of their way to make it known that they are furries when doing so is completley unnecessary. Nobody gives a damn about what you do, yet furries feel the need to make it known. Then they act shocked when people make fun of them for mentioning something that need not ever be mentioned. Ridiculous.
This. The main reason I wouldn't take the treatment is because regular people would confuse my decision as something I did just to get my rocks off, not because I'd genuinely like to be an animal. Also, it'd be an invitation to get yiffed on. Who wants to look like a stupid cartoon character anyway? I say go whole hog and actually become the animal. The only human traits you really need are opposable thumbs and a voicebox. The only reason I'm even giving it this much thought is because if I was given the choice to become a Utahraptor, I'm there.
 

Nihilism_Is_Bliss

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Wait 5 years until the serum is improved and more people have done it so it is more socially accepted, then sure. Splice away!

Edit: In response to other comments, you'd have to be an idiot to say seriously that furries don't receive greater hatred and stigmatism than other fetishes on the internet. I'm not furry myself, but I don't have any problems with them, and have noticed on many an occasion that furries cop way too much crap.
 

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Perfect Dark said:
...few animals have better cognitive abilities than humans so I'm not sure how it would improve you.
We have excellent creative capacities. We have wonderful social cognition.

Memorization, organization, and rote memory, animals are exceptionally more capable.

OT: I think I could see myself doing this.
 

Emurlahn

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I'm in, all the way, cause the people who really matter would respect my decision.
And the rest would get their ass kicked by my awesome new hybrid powers!
 

smurf_you

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I would totally do it.... especially if it managed to help compensate for my physical problems... by which I mean my back and legs, you only recover so much from a broken back and a severed nerve.....
 

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Assuming it gets released to the public one would hope the moral question of "are you really still human after doing this?" would and should have already been tackled. I can tell you right off the bat there would be several religions that would probably be against it and see it as some kind of affront against god. Like it or not, here in the US and other countries around the globe laws are created based in religious ideas. Immediately you would have the world split into three maybe four groups. Those against, those for, those who don't give a crap, and those who want to try and troll the other three.

Would I do it? Can't say that I would, knowing the level of persecution we've put other humans through that were simply of a different skin color or culture I would hate to see the level of ugly that would transpire between humans and a new species of human. Actually I don't have to, I can just open an X-men comic and see the end result.(now that I think about it) Were the procedure to become the norm of society to the point that not having it puts you at a severe disadvantage then I would certainly get it.
You do raise an interesting point with the whole "Would you still be human?" issue. Sort of a Deus Ex thing.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I would do it. I'd want more information to go on before deciding.
 

Amondren

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Nah I'm good. I think it'd put a lot of strain on the human mind to go through these rapid changes and I'm not a Furry. If people want to take let them its their choice.
 

remmus

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I must said I was disappointed, I was hoping this was going to be a actual talk about the RL issue that furries is still being harassed by ignorant peasants with pitchforks (aka the general public and it´s tendency to judge rather then learn)
 

Arkham

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remmus said:
I must said I was disappointed, I was hoping this was going to be a actual talk about the RL issue that furries is still being harassed by ignorant peasants with pitchforks (aka the general public and it´s tendency to judge rather then learn)
I'll admit that I occasionally see irrational hatred for furries pop up here and there, but I wouldn't say that that the general public harasses them. I'm disappointed that wasn't the discussion being had here either.

As for the original 'serum' concept I can only see this being theoretically possible taking the form of interspecies chimeras [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(genetics)]. That would certainly be interesting since these chimera would have no say in the matter, with the deed being done before birth. It would be like a new form of racism. (I know it's hypothetical and fiction, but still...)
 

PrototypeC

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I have no idea what I'd do. Honestly, I don't think I'd even want to live in this world anymore. Not because of the furry part (don't think I'm letting you off the hook that's seriously messed up), but because it's a great big middle finger to humanity at large. What's better than a human being? Why, an animal, of course. If you're human, the best you can do is splice in some animal, genetically. Ouch, man. Not only would I have to suck up my disgust of furryism lest I become a sad, bigoted remnant denying the next step in evolution, but I'd have to live with the knowledge that these semi-humans are inherently superior to me in every way. I could get the splicing done myself, of course, but I rather like myself the way I am. Having to decide between being smarter, faster and overall more like I'm trying to become vs. staying human but with no benefits... it would probably kill me.

I think the whole scenario kind of puts the furryism thing into perspective for me... it stems from a distrust of humankind, almost to the point of misanthropy. It's not just an appearance or sexuality thing, it's choosing nature over other people. Don't quote me on this, I'm no researcher or anything, but I'm getting this impression more and more.

By the way OP, great question!
 

Wolfram23

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I would not do it, because I've never felt inadequate with myself - intellegence or strength. Sure I'm not a great big guy but who needs that, really? What use would it be for me to be super strong in my daily life? I'm not going to join some sideshow.

This is really just splicing from BioShock, and we've seen how that works out for you. I'll be the one in the big suit drilling you in the face...
 

Wintermoot

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maybe if do cool stuff like curing cancer I might become socially accepted and popularize furrification (?)
 

Byere

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No brainer for me. Full on yes, so long as I picked what traits I gained be it physical (enhanced strength or speed, etc), mental (faster thinking, greater intelligence, etc) or superficial (what would be visable to everyone else).

Combining some of the best traits of one or more species with the human form (bipedal, upright walking, etc) would be very useful.

Personally, I'd go with greater agility, strength and metabolism, better perceptive senses (smell, sight and hearing) and feline superficial traits... preferably of a black panther and other sleek large felines.