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The cars still go full speed and grip well when Bond goes off the roads. When he cuts through tall grass.

Old video.


He also drives the DBS/DB9.



I don't like the dominance Aston Martin has in this franchise. Driving the same car over and over makes him look less cultured and refined in his tastes. It's not like MI6 could afford these sports cars anyway, so don't tell me a partnership with the British car maker is the reason.
 
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The cars still go full speed and grip well when Bond goes off the roads. When he cuts through tall grass.

Old video.


He also drives the DBS/DB9.



I don't like the dominance Aston Martin has in this franchise. Driving the same car over and over makes him look less cultured and refined in his tastes. It's not like MI6 could afford these sports cars anyway, so don't tell me a partnership with the British car maker is the reason.
Yeah, they need to go back to the old-school Bond style like Goldfinger, where he was driving...an Aston Martin DB5. Or maybe The Spy Who Loved Me, where he drove a Lotus Espirit. Hmm...
 

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Yeah, they need to go back to the old-school Bond style like Goldfinger, where he was driving...an Aston Martin DB5. Or maybe The Spy Who Loved Me, where he drove a Lotus Espirit. Hmm...
That's my point. He shouldn't have been driving so many Aston Martins through the decades. It makes him look like some tasteless fanboy rather than a man of the world.
 

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Well, there was also the Brosnan era where he drove BMWs. Was that the only real Bond?
 

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While I'm criticizing the old movies...

I wanted to know if Ian Fleming was scared of the communists and if the books mentioned the USSR much or mostly used SPECTRE like in the movies. The AI answer told me the movies were more cowardly than the books.

'Based on the provided search context, Ian Fleming developed a deeply hostile and fearful view of the Soviet Union after witnessing its repressive machinery firsthand. During a 1933 assignment in Moscow to cover a show trial, he observed what he described as the "implacable working of the soulless machinery of Soviet Justice," noting that the system was built on fear, routine arrests, and the terrorizing of innocent people.

'He internalized this experience as a portrait of "drab grimness" and state intimidation on a scale he "could never have imagined." This early encounter with the Stalinist regime crystalized his perception of the Soviet state as an enemy ruled by an "army of executioners," a perspective that heavily influenced the antagonists and themes in his later James Bond novels during the Cold War.'

An idiot for his paranoia, of course, since having to provide an alternative to communism made the west care for its people more.

And I got a better response from a human. Totally agree:

'SPECTRE didn't appear until Thunderball, the eighth of Fleming's novels. The antagonists in Casino Royale, From Russia with Love, and Dr. No were all originally SMERSH operatives, and the movies changed this. The overall effect is that Bond is much more peripherally involved in the Cold War when you watch him on the big screen. EON Productions tried to be much more diplomatic towards the USSR than Fleming ever was, especially starting in 1977's The Spy Who Loved Me with the sympathetic characters Amasova and Gogol.

'After the Cold War ended, the series needed to find a new de facto villain, and China could have easily stepped into that role, so it's rather telling that only 2 of the 9 post-Cold War movies even feature China (Tomorrow Never Dies and Skyfall), and neither of them depicts the country in a negative light. The producers couldn't afford to alienate such a large audience, so they made toothless slop with nothing to say about 21st century international relations or espionage.'
 
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Lol, I said about the floaty, magnetic combat, "Two dots just connected in my head. Minutes before you said this, I watched Bond turn around in a microsecond and swing at the next man. It traces back to Arkham Asylum. Another Arkham combat game, only he doesn't float as far. I guess the Uncharted fist fights in 3, 4 and The Lost Legacy are that too. Maybe."

Then someone replied with this Twitter post: "...the Principal Combat Designer for 2 years was Adam Vincent - the Combat Animator/Designer for all Arkham games."

 
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Somewhat makes sense that they smoothed down the edges of the track to the point that the truck will auto-correct and keep driving when you hit the sides.

The last thing you want in your high octane car chase is to hit something on the sides and grind to a halt, having to back up and then continue on.

Competent players will never touch the sides and cruise through the path with no effort and less competent players who might hit the sides will think they merely grazed the sides and have a good time cruising along as well.

The intent is to give the player a high speed chase with a truck and they're delivering on it.
Good, functional game design for what they're trying to achieve.
 
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Somewhat makes sense that they smoothed down the edges of the track to the point that the truck will auto-correct and keep driving when you hit the sides.

The last thing you want in your high octane car chase is to hit something on the sides and grind to a halt, having to back up and then continue on.

Competent players will never touch the sides and cruise through the path with no effort and less competent players who might hit the sides will think they merely grazed the sides and have a good time cruising along as well.

The intent is to give the player a high speed chase with a truck and they're delivering on it.
Good, functional game design for what they're trying to achieve.
But it's not something Ezekiel wants in the game he has done nothing but say over and over again for literally months now why he doesn't want to play it, and is therefore bad game design. Because Ezekiel knows perfect game design, and anything he doesn't agree with is therefore bad, and he has to let us know constantly how right he is.
 
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Because Ezekiel knows perfect game design, and anything he doesn't agree with is therefore bad, and he has to let us know constantly how right he is.
And nobody cares on this thread, nor any thread with actual reasonable people. I've been seeing other forums, and most people are excited for this game or want to play it.
 
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While I'm criticizing the old movies...

I wanted to know if Ian Fleming was scared of the communists and if the books mentioned the USSR much or mostly used SPECTRE like in the movies. The AI answer told me the movies were more cowardly than the books.

'Based on the provided search context, Ian Fleming developed a deeply hostile and fearful view of the Soviet Union after witnessing its repressive machinery firsthand. During a 1933 assignment in Moscow to cover a show trial, he observed what he described as the "implacable working of the soulless machinery of Soviet Justice," noting that the system was built on fear, routine arrests, and the terrorizing of innocent people.

'He internalized this experience as a portrait of "drab grimness" and state intimidation on a scale he "could never have imagined." This early encounter with the Stalinist regime crystalized his perception of the Soviet state as an enemy ruled by an "army of executioners," a perspective that heavily influenced the antagonists and themes in his later James Bond novels during the Cold War.'

An idiot for his paranoia, of course, since having to provide an alternative to communism made the west care for its people more.

And I got a better response from a human. Totally agree:

'SPECTRE didn't appear until Thunderball, the eighth of Fleming's novels. The antagonists in Casino Royale, From Russia with Love, and Dr. No were all originally SMERSH operatives, and the movies changed this. The overall effect is that Bond is much more peripherally involved in the Cold War when you watch him on the big screen. EON Productions tried to be much more diplomatic towards the USSR than Fleming ever was, especially starting in 1977's The Spy Who Loved Me with the sympathetic characters Amasova and Gogol.

'After the Cold War ended, the series needed to find a new de facto villain, and China could have easily stepped into that role, so it's rather telling that only 2 of the 9 post-Cold War movies even feature China (Tomorrow Never Dies and Skyfall), and neither of them depicts the country in a negative light. The producers couldn't afford to alienate such a large audience, so they made toothless slop with nothing to say about 21st century international relations or espionage.'
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While I'm criticizing the old movies...

I wanted to know if Ian Fleming was scared of the communists and if the books mentioned the USSR much or mostly used SPECTRE like in the movies. The AI answer told me the movies were more cowardly than the books.

'Based on the provided search context, Ian Fleming developed a deeply hostile and fearful view of the Soviet Union after witnessing its repressive machinery firsthand. During a 1933 assignment in Moscow to cover a show trial, he observed what he described as the "implacable working of the soulless machinery of Soviet Justice," noting that the system was built on fear, routine arrests, and the terrorizing of innocent people.

'He internalized this experience as a portrait of "drab grimness" and state intimidation on a scale he "could never have imagined." This early encounter with the Stalinist regime crystalized his perception of the Soviet state as an enemy ruled by an "army of executioners," a perspective that heavily influenced the antagonists and themes in his later James Bond novels during the Cold War.'

An idiot for his paranoia, of course, since having to provide an alternative to communism made the west care for its people more.

And I got a better response from a human. Totally agree:

'SPECTRE didn't appear until Thunderball, the eighth of Fleming's novels. The antagonists in Casino Royale, From Russia with Love, and Dr. No were all originally SMERSH operatives, and the movies changed this. The overall effect is that Bond is much more peripherally involved in the Cold War when you watch him on the big screen. EON Productions tried to be much more diplomatic towards the USSR than Fleming ever was, especially starting in 1977's The Spy Who Loved Me with the sympathetic characters Amasova and Gogol.

'After the Cold War ended, the series needed to find a new de facto villain, and China could have easily stepped into that role, so it's rather telling that only 2 of the 9 post-Cold War movies even feature China (Tomorrow Never Dies and Skyfall), and neither of them depicts the country in a negative light. The producers couldn't afford to alienate such a large audience, so they made toothless slop with nothing to say about 21st century international relations or espionage.'
Meanwhile, as someone who actually read the books rather than rely on Google AI of all fucking things to answer my questions, I can say that if you swap in SMERSH (which, for the record, was not made up by Ian Fleming, but was a real-life USSR thing, hence probably more of why SPECTRE was used due to SPECTRE being copyrightable/trademarkable more than cowardice), you get just as much use of the criminal organization in either the early Bond movies or the Bond novels. Movies have a fair bit less misogyny, xenophobia, and homophobia though, which considering how many elements of each are still on screen really speaks to how bad the Bond novels could be about it.
 

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I stopped reading at "not made up by Ian Fleming," annoyed by your reading comprehension. Who said or implied SMERSH was fictional? The AI didn't. I didn't. The person who responded to me didn't. Maybe if you weren't always looking to defend or excuse, you wouldn't have made that error. "A-a-a-ctually..."

That person also responded to my complaint about Bond mostly only driving Aston Martins, like some uncultured fanboy. 'Bond drove a Bentley in the books. He drove a Lotus in a couple of the Moore films, and BMWs during the Brosnan films. It doesn't have to be an Aston Martin every time except that's what is remembered by the broader culture.'

I'm not a car man, but there's so much to choose from.


I see the Jaguar XJ12 at number 12. I suggested Jaguar XJR once.

'The older Jaguar XJRs seem like the kinds of cars James Bond would drive. It's a shame he mostly only drove Aston Martins and, briefly, BMWs, unless he was in a fix. Makes him look like he's not really a man of the world cultured in his hobbies.'
 
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Oh look, its Mark Kern. Not too busy working on Em-8er again, I see.
 

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I stopped reading at "not made up by Ian Fleming," annoyed by your reading comprehension. Who said or implied SMERSH was fictional? The AI didn't. I didn't. The person who responded to me didn't. Maybe if you weren't always looking to defend or excuse, you wouldn't have made that error. "A-a-a-ctually..."

That person also responded to my complaint about Bond mostly only driving Aston Martins, like some uncultured fanboy. 'Bond drove a Bentley in the books. He drove a Lotus in a couple of the Moore films, and BMWs during the Brosnan films. It doesn't have to be an Aston Martin every time except that's what is remembered by the broader culture.'

I'm not a car man, but there's so much to choose from.


I see the Jaguar XJ12 at number 12. I suggested Jaguar XJR once.

'The older Jaguar XJRs seem like the kinds of cars James Bond would drive. It's a shame he mostly only drove Aston Martins and, briefly, BMWs, unless he was in a fix. Makes him look like he's not really a man of the world cultured in his hobbies.'
I'm not the one who failed at reading comprehension. You stopped reading, apparently, before getting to my point that SPECTRE was likely created because it was copyrightable/trademarkable rather than a real life organization, instead of your assumption that it was to kowtow and not offend the Soviet Union.

ETA: Also, can't help but not that for someone defending or excusing, I sure had a bit of negative to say about both Fleming's writing and the early Bond movies. It's almost as if I can understand something is flawed rather than binary good/awful.
 
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