Game Design Sketchbook: Immortality

kormyen

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BobisOnlyBob said:
[http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=immortal1bv7.png]
[http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=immortal2gk0.png]

"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
lolol. Nice! XD

I started, but got bored =B

Immortality? I'd take it.
Nice game, just found the block swapping/movement to arrange them annoying/time consuming. They guy above must have played for a pretty long time.. ^-^

It made me wonder what those plants growing would do/become, but it seems nothing I guess?

UpInSmoke - cudos

Usige Beatha - say hello to Jesus for me

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Usige Beatha

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lol I'm not too interested in Jesus. More so in my Ancestors, THEY were an interesting lot lol.

I guess one way to look at it is that Immortality is not necessarily something we Humans can have, but not necessarily something we are denied.
 

Luthorcrow

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Good point but I am assuming the the pill in this example would freeze your age. But yes, I would take the people assuming I could stay at my current age but preferably 30. That's age to ride eternity through. Young enough to be vital but old enough not to be taken lightly.

Honestly, I think your wife is wrong for two main reasons. One, boredom is for the unimaginative. Let's face it, there is plenty in the world as it is to amuse for a long time and its always changing. One individual is too finite if without death to exhaust the worlds beauty, spectacle, etc. Two, just because you become immortal doesn't mean forever memory. Keep in mind your brain can only hold so many memories and memories overtime fade to make room for new associations. So if you were immortal, with your current wetware, overtime you would forget. Whether that would be 300, 500 or 1000 years of memory who knows but there is no way your brain could keep all of those memories. So with enough time, what was old would become new again.

As for the whole Highlander argument. Yes, there would be pain in losing mortal loved ones but let's face it, a life without a pain is not a life worth living anyway. Or the flip side is, do you really want to spend eternity with anyone? I mean, Angelina is hot but after 500 years, you would be begging for single status from anyone.
 

UpInSmoke

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what happens if I get sentenced to life in prison while immortal? Or "Lethal" injection? I bet that would suck.
 

sandswipe

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Interesting. But what is beyond the stars? I've gotten as high as the other guy and I'm kinda curious if the sky turns all the way black, or every thousand blocks we get a picture of boobies or what.


No seriously, it is an interesting concept game. No point, just as there is no point to life, except to experience the message. This is why escapist > ign. I come here for a completely different type of gaming journalism, and I get it.
 

dimwitf

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The problem I have with this game is the same problem that I have with people saying immortality would be boring. Yes, an infinity of nothing but a flat plain and movable blocks would be boring...but that's not where we live. There is ALWAYS something new and fascinating to see, because the universe is a place that changes.
 

Calobi

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I plan on not dying through sheer force of will. That way, once I do everything I want to, or when I become bored with the whole "living forever" thing, I can change my mind and die.

That's the kind of immortality I want, one in which I get to choose if and when it ends.


BobisOnlyBob said:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
You're missing the ending:
"'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works ye mighty, and despair!'
Nothing else remains."

Kind of ruins the mood though, eh?
 

BobisOnlyBob

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Calobi said:
BobisOnlyBob said:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
You're missing the ending:
"'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works ye mighty, and despair!'
Nothing else remains."

Kind of ruins the mood though, eh?
'twas deliberate. I figured the ending was implied, and thus, my opinion on immortality. Yes, using the 5 minutes I was given, I immediately went for the immortality pill... and then I sought purpose, gave myself a goal, and accomplished it. Sure, even if nothing remains... I believe in the eventual heat-death of the universe. Nothing will remain. Only energy, ready to restart, with no memory of what passed before.
Just as my 25-story high tower (that's 75 blocks) no longer exists other than as image files and memory, it will eventually be forgotten, deleted, and gone. Immortality is just an extension of your existing life; there is no true immortality. And as long as I have something to aspire towards, something to do, something to use, I will keep building my towers.

Immortality is good. Just a few more seconds on the clock, in perspective. And couldn't we all use a little extra time?
 

GirlFlash

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immortality isnt going to do anybody any good until people are more open minded, death is pretty much the only thing that helps society evolve, old ideas have to die out.

assuming everyone can live happily with one another and we genuinely achieve a utopia, I dont see any problem with or without immortality, I'm sure the problem would be irrelevant in that case anyway.

anyhoo, as for the game, it was an interesting idea, but if I had a walk cycle like that in real life I'd consider the scuicide box much faster =p
 

kormyen

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BobisOnlyBob said:
'twas deliberate. I figured the ending was implied, and thus, my opinion on immortality. Yes, using the 5 minutes I was given, I immediately went for the immortality pill... and then I sought purpose, gave myself a goal, and accomplished it. Sure, even if nothing remains... I believe in the eventual heat-death of the universe. Nothing will remain. Only energy, ready to restart, with no memory of what passed before.
Just as my 25-story high tower (that's 75 blocks) no longer exists other than as image files and memory, it will eventually be forgotten, deleted, and gone. Immortality is just an extension of your existing life; there is no true immortality. And as long as I have something to aspire towards, something to do, something to use, I will keep building my towers.

Immortality is good. Just a few more seconds on the clock, in perspective. And couldn't we all use a little extra time?
Exactly! lol ^-^

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What about millions of years from now when the earth is destroyed and you're just drifting in space?
Also you can't live on through your decedents if they die before reproducing.
 

privatehuff

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I would, without question, choose immortality. Seeing my friends and family and everything I love wither and die would be just fine. I can get more things or people, but I can't get more "get" (without immortality ^^)
 

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Well what kind of immorality are we talking about? One where you justcan't die fo old age, or you can not eat or drink or breath for a year and still run a marathon?

I mean to be truly immortal, you would be able to have a nuke dropped on you or being fired into teh sun or able to sit through a slim shady 'gig' and still be happy to go to the local pub for a pint!

Slim it down for us!
 

7dollarbill

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Honestly, I've only been on this earth for 18 years and get really bored of it sometimes. I can't even imagine how bored I'd be if I lived for 1000.
 

felixader

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I would take it. It is not just about living your dreams. But there will be NEVER an end of things to learn, to do or to accomplish.

I mean with endless time, you could even, through you wisedom and knowledge, try as it is to an supperior Imperor or something, and if you think it doesn't work, cause you don't like how people act in the system or you did it the wrong way then just wait some relaxed centurys till generations forget, and then start something different.

And you always can start taking care of all or no one.

I mean even the simplest things, like just relaxing and beeing in the moment you are, you just could at least take everytime you REALY need, and stop complainig about that you have not enough time for everything.

Yeah it could be a problem with the relations around you, but at least all those beloved ones will never be forgotten through yo. Not to talk about that you could take care of every future generation of your family.

I think it would free people really to be themselfs.
 

Simon says...

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You non-immortal guys are nuts! o_O

Living forever kicks ass if you manage to build an awesome life. On the other hand if you can't accomplish that within you normal lifespan then you probably never have the balls to do it anyway and that might suck.


Also this post was fun to read:
"Comrade, nothing just stops. Even if our souls die with the body then the nutrients that made up our body are absorbed by the soil, we're used by plants who are eaten by animals which are eaten by other animals and eventually humans perhaps."

Clearly watched too much Lion King when he was young! "When wie die our bodys become grass and antilopes eat the grass" blabla XD

Well it doesn't alter the fact that he is right our purpose as humans is the same as it is for all animals: Survive and reproduce. And with your death your consciousness probably dies too, but the problem with that is that it is quite awesome and fun to be aware of one's surroundings compared to being a piece of smelly dirt.


I pick immortality! =)

Death is only for wussies who assume a neverending life would be as lame as the one they are living right now.
 

scrape

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Well, with the anti-literal-genie prerequisites of eternal youth and health, I'd take amortality. That's where you pretty much live forever, but can die whenever you want to. I think if presented with that option, there'd be no holdouts. If you don't have the balls to end it yourself then you don't deserve to live forever.
 

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I'm also interested in what 'kind' of immortality. Our bodies change with age, they deteriorate and where it, which is the reason we eventually die (I mean natural causes, eventually, it becomes too hard for your heart to beat and pass blood to the rest of your body, and your gone. Now, a bullet would be another story), so if we'd live forever, then we'd age, and eventually we wouldn't be able to move, just live. If we weren't to age, then we'd be cut out of civilization. If I didn't age for five years, my family wouldn't just be suspicious, they'd start calling the cops, and following me around, and paying my friends to wear a wire, and...oh, I've gone far enough, but most normal people would comment me on my looks. After ten years, people'd start to get suspicious (and my family would kidnap me for questioning, and, as I'm assuming, so would the government). After fifteen years, the government would want to talk with me, and if I wasn't gone by twenty, I'd probably be in some kind of government experiment. Also, besides normal people, you couldn't have a family without leaving it every couple of years, and you can't tell me you'd be fine with that (you immoral, selfish bastard). And if you did have/get a family, you'd have to watch them die before you eyes. That'd be terrible. Also, you can't tell me boredom wouln't get to you after thousands of years. And what about when the Earth would be destroyed? You'd float in space forever. But what's my final answer? In truth, yes. If you're talking immortality, you're talking invincibility too. Think about it. If you're immortal, you live forever, and therefore cannot die or be killed. I'd go around jumping from building tops and if I fell, no biggy, I'd be OK. Plus, I'd carry a stock of grenades, and two fully loaded pistols. If I got into an argument with someone, I'd just hold them down and cook a frag in their mouth. And if a friend and I were really pissed at each other I could fake my own death. Sweet ^.^ Another thing, I could kill hundreds of people. It'd be like a video game, except there's never an off button and you never die. Also, I'd go sky-diving without a parachute into a pool full of lava with invinicible, laser-equipped sharks inside. While doing a girl with AIDS (if I'm immortal and invincible, then so are my bodies defenses, so I couldn't contract any diseases/viruses/colds). It wouldn't get boring, because I could do ANYTHING I wanted, anywhere.

But really, we're not that far enough from immortality. Think about it: if I could dodge enough bullets and get enough liver transplants, I could live potentially thousands of years. With advances in modern technology such as gene therapy and stem cell research getting closer every day, who says by the time I'm 70 or 80, I won't be able to live to 1000?