Game Grumps please don't pull shit like this.

[Darren716]

It's because of stuff like this that I stopped watching grumps over a year ago, they broke the first rule of let's playing they put too much emphasis on themselves and not the game they're playing this is why they end up canceling so many projects or spend several episodes with no direction. I feel their biggest downfall is that they put so much of a focus on playing the games that fans sent them, even though they had no interest in them and thus ignored the game so they could repeat their same jokes ad nausium.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

There's a million and one lets-players out there that abandon any and all entertainment value so they can obtain maximum "good" gaming efficiency. Go and watch one of them. I for one find these bumbling jackasses entertaining as they stagger blindly through and shoot the shit together. The pained sound of Arin's WTF's make me laugh whether they're his fault or not.

It's bad enough that they caved in with Dark Souls. If the Grumps return to their Pokemon LP and Arin actually gets rid of Beedrill I'll personally garotte every member of the Smogon forums.

Still one of the funniest moments in GG history.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

What makes me laugh with the Game Grumps is that Arin made an excellent video on how game mechanics were taught through gameplay back in the older days.

Yet in the majority of Game Grumps videos he constantly displays his lack of being able to comprehend his own philosophy. The Game Grumps borderline don't know how to play most games past the N64/PsOne/DC era well.

But they're more of a comedy gaming channel than a "I'm gonna make Progress" gaming channel.

As bad as Sonic 06 was, it didn't need to take 108 10-15 minute videos to beat. That's well over 18 hours. Sonic 06 is NOT that long.

 

[FPLOON]

Wait... I thought it WAS a recurring theme of them to not really play the game they're playing right now correctly... and then, after realizing how to play that specific game "correctly", the next game they start playing begins with them not really playing that game correctly... That kind of cycle continues from video game to video game, unless it's a video game that either of them have played "some time ago" prior to Game Grumps...

In other words, this doesn't surprise me that they would do that to a game that's more functional than some of the other games they have played so far on that channel... But, again, I have been told that it's not about the games they play, but for the commentary they bring... So, there's that...

 

[Nuuu]

I think people are forgetting that the Game Grumps themselves said that "This isn't a Let's Play Channel". These aren't LPs, they aren't going through every game to show you the games.

If your problem is that the videos are too focused on them, it's because that's the POINT of the channel. The Game Grumps are more of "Reactions" with the occasional full play through.

 

[Louzon]

I stopped watching them a long time ago. They were funny at first, but it seemed to turn into just an outlet where they try too hard to be funny, and there happens to be a video game playing in the background.

I actually am pretty high on Super Beard Bros, although I have fallen behind on their LPs also. It just seems like they're more passionate about the games they play, so it's more fun to listen to them and watch them play.

 

[EHKOS]

From what I've seen and analyzed, Arin does not perform well in a 3D environment. Like, somehow when he was learning about video games and the years he spent playing them in 2D due to graphical limitations, his brain wired up to think of playing a video game as if it were seen from the side, with one linear path.

Although it does frustrate me when something Arin explained in his Megaman Seqeulitis actually does what he wants it to do, and then still doesn't learn from it.


But really, Arin isn't that good at commentary. Not to say he doesn't have his moments, but he contributes a lot less than Dan does. But I'm probably biased because Dan is my favorite by a long shot. He's such a sweet guy, with great stories and a bright, cheery attitude. I really look up to him because he's just such a cool person.

 

[EyeReaper]

Hey I'm Snip

Well, here it is, if you want to watch.
I can save you ten minutes though. There's one goal in the tutorial, to pick up a present and cast it into the fire. They don't grasp that notion until episode two

 

[epicdwarf]

Most of the comedy in this video instance revolved around how "shit" the game is. Maybe if they were talking about something else I wouldn't of been so annoyed. However they were mostly talking about the game, and how "broken" it is because they can't play it right. That doesn't exactly work when the only reason why you "can't play it" is because your paying a total of zero attention to the game.

As many other and myself have said before, the show is about comedy not the game. If you game into it expecting them to do a proper critique on the game's mechanics, then you should not have been watching Game Grumps.

 

[Voulan]

I enjoy some level of faffing around in Game Grumps, but I do agree that at some times it just makes things unbearable to watch - usually when their comedic commentary just ends up being episodes of complaining about the game that they won't pay attention to. Poor gameplay episodes are great to listen to when you're doing other things though. I suppose the level of tolerance is overcome by the amount they complain by alongside your own expertise in the game. No one likes watching someone blunder in a game they know really well - it's like watching your parents try to use the computer.

At least know that not every playthrough series is like that.

 

[Zeckt]

nvm
Their where parts in the Sonic 06 that they clearly weren't paying attention.
Also why are you WATCHING them play? I though every one only really listened to LPers for the most part?

Yeah, I could not imagine actually WATCHING totalbiscuit. What else will I have in the background of my quiet games?

 

[Kingjackl]

I haven't watched Game Grumps myself, but I can understand the frustration. Bad Let's Plays (as in, people playing a game poorly) can be funny to watch, but I find it works best in small bursts. If someone is just repeatedly fucking up and showing no signs of learning from their mistakes, then it gets tedious fast. Especially when they're making such obvious mistakes that anyone watching can see the solution a mile away.

I get the intention is to illustrate that the game is badly designed, but surely a good Let's Play can do that without overdoing it. The best strategy is to play the game to the best of your ability and let the game speak for itself. A game that's poorly designed will show it's flaws without the need for the player to be complicit in its failure.

 

[Hero of Lime]

They're not exactly focusing on the game, they have to talk as well, you'd be surprised how split someone's focus can be in that kind of situation.

Also, taking Game Grumps seriously?

Are you new or something? If you take Game Grumps seriously you're gonna have a bad time. I say this as someone who's been watching the show since day 1.

Never go into Game Grumps expecting progress to be made.

Never

Watching them play Windwaker was like ripping out fingernails XD

As someone who knows Wind Waker like the back of my own hand, I never talked/yelled at my screen more than Arin playing the game. XD

Never take the grumps too seriously, I like seeing progress, but I also love them for the talking too.

 

[M0rp43vs]

You should watch Two Best Friends Play The Last of Us...

"The game broke, the game broke, the game broke... Oh wait, I just suck. Sorry folks."

This is just something that comes with watching Let's Plays sometimes. If you're watching one where the player doesn't know what the heck he's doing when you do, you're gonna have a slightly frustrating time ("The tool is right there, Pat! Right the fuck there!!!").

Heh, watch their current playthrough of Resident Evil 4 sometime.
"I finished the game 7 times and am a Resident Evil master. This will be a no death run." -Pat, Episode 1.
"Did you see those fuckers create a wiki for all the times I fucked up!?"- Pat, Many deaths, missed treasures and stupid hits and misses later. which were then later set to Safety Dance.

Then there was the Attache case debacle and how that ended.
If it sounds like I'm disparaging them, I'm not. I honestly think this is one of their best and funniest playthroughs.

OT: Yea, like others say, the point isn't them playing but more of their comments and chemistry between them. And many people can tell you that trying to play a game while being distracted by trying to hold a clever conversation at the same time will induce a drop in your skill level.
That said, I ain't no fan of the Game Grumps. There is some leeway of how much they can get away with varies from person to person and they kinda pass that for me.

When they're enjoying themselves or getting excited, especially in the beginning, they're pretty funny. But eventually,some of their excited banter got replaced with bored sounding whinging about what's bothering them.

So nowadays I listen to the TwoBestFriendsPlay, a.k.a. the better in every way GameGrumps, for all my homo-erotic let's play needs.
(Before you start, These guys have been going a year before the gamegrumps started and Jontron himself admitted to being inspired into starting GameGrumps by them)

 

[clippen05]

I (don't) watch Game Grumps so I can hear stories about some stoner's college adventures, not to see them progress in the game. Oh and Egoraptor's in it too. It's all about the comedy guyssssss.



Seriously, what do you expect when 1/2 the cast hasn't touched a videogame in 2 decades. It's not going to be MLG material.

 

[Dragonbums]

. It's not going to be MLG material.

I never said I expected professional play. My issue with the LP in question was that they were playing it like shit and saying it's the game that's broken when they just weren't paying attention.

 

[Casual Shinji]

You should watch Two Best Friends Play The Last of Us...

"The game broke, the game broke, the game broke... Oh wait, I just suck. Sorry folks."

This is just something that comes with watching Let's Plays sometimes. If you're watching one where the player doesn't know what the heck he's doing when you do, you're gonna have a slightly frustrating time ("The tool is right there, Pat! Right the fuck there!!!").

Heh, watch their current playthrough of Resident Evil 4 sometime.
"I finished the game 7 times and am a Resident Evil master. This will be a no death run." -Pat, Episode 1.
"Did you see those fuckers create a wiki for all the times I fucked up!?"- Pat, Many deaths, missed treasures and stupid hits and misses later. which were then later set to Safety Dance.

Then there was the Attache case debacle and how that ended.
If it sounds like I'm disparaging them, I'm not. I honestly think this is one of their best and funniest playthroughs.

Yeah, but the attache case is Pat just delightfully trolling. He knows there's obsessive compulsive attache case managers out there like me, who can't stand disorganized guns and ammo.

It's weird though that sometimes times he'll screw up beyond human understanding, and then other times he'll show me things I never even knew were possible, like controlling the boat during the lake battle or kniving Krauser.

But yeah I agree, it's generally fun to see Pat fuck up and eat some humble pie. Nothing beats the Resident Evil 2 playthrough though. It taught me the meaning of 'soup kitchen'.

 

[default]

Meh, they butcher a lot of games and fuck around a lot when all they needed to do was pay attention to a textbox or two, and they have some truly passionless and god-awful episodes, but I still fucking love the Grumps. They've made me laugh and brightened up my day countless times. And personally, I don't really care if they're playing a game like shit. That is not what I watch them for, and I couldn't care less about most of the games they play anyway.

And Christ, have you ever actually tried to stay energetic and funny and interesting on camera with another person while also trying to play, understand and make progress in a game you've never played before at the same time? That shit's gotta be hard, man.

 

[SweetShark]

Yeah, I can see myself get angry with that as well.
I don't care if someone isn't 100% focus in the game, because, let be honest here, if you are talking,laughing and playing at the same time, it is very damn difficult.
However if the one playing act like "this is a bad game and I will not try to play it for that reason and instead I will just do stupid things", then I am sorry, bad you aren't interesting for me to watch...

Εexception of course the "Stupid" genre games like Goat Simulator.

 

[M0rp43vs]

Yeah, but the attache case is Pat just delightfully trolling. He knows there's obsessive compulsive attache case managers out there like me, who can't stand disorganized guns and ammo.

Yea, I thought the trolling was a highlight of the playthrough but it did still fuck him over in the end. The state it ended up in in the end was a wonder to behold though.


...Is there a TwoBestFriendsPlay group on the Escapist? I feel like we shouldn't attempt to derail this thread anymore but I like talking about the Zaibatsu.

And Christ, have you ever actually tried to stay energetic and funny and interesting on camera with another person while also trying to play, understand and make progress in a game you've never played before at the same time? That shit's gotta be hard, man.

That can vary from person to person depending on their Charisma but I agree with what you're saying, its like rubbing your head and patting your belly. That's why I like let's plays with more than one person because it allows one person to focus on the game and the other can keep the flow of conversation going. And the chemistry between the two can make up for any lack of charisma.

I never said I expected professional play. My issue with the LP in question was that they were playing it like shit and saying it's the game that's broken when they just weren't paying attention.

As much as I agree with you, I have to say, perhaps that's what they were going for. Perhaps they know that their fans love them more when they're bashing whatever they're playing so they're doing this deliberately. I wasn't a fan of them for long but when I watched them, they always had something to complain about in the game they're playing. I dunno if this is still the case though, I haven't kept up with them since Jontron left.