Game of Thrones Actors Voice Opinions on Who Should Rule
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I cannot understand why people think Stannis has more right to the throne than literally anyone else. Ruling line was thrown out the window the moment the war was started, because even though Aerys was mad, the line should have gone to Rhaegar, who did nothing wrong. Even his crime was purely speculation, and even then they were out for his head from the start. If anything, the Starks being put to death for calling for the blood of a prince simply because of speculation was just, even if their deaths themselves were not. Heritage and hierarchy died at that moment, so anyone with the biggest army had the best claim.
Now, by who would rule best, I think either Tyrion or Varys would do splendidly. If it was a consistent throne, Stannis wouldn't be too bad, but during war times, he'd be a terrible king. Good general, just horrible leader of the common people. Past that, only one other really looks to be worth a damn, and he's in the spoiler.
if anyone has the right to rule by shear right, it is either Aegon or Daenerys. Past that, the line of succession is meaningless.
Now, by who would rule best, I think either Tyrion or Varys would do splendidly. If it was a consistent throne, Stannis wouldn't be too bad, but during war times, he'd be a terrible king. Good general, just horrible leader of the common people. Past that, only one other really looks to be worth a damn, and he's in the spoiler.
If George R.R Martin wouldn't have made a habbit out of punishing his "evil" characters, then my money would be on Littlefinger ending up with the throne. He's the guy who best plays the game of thrones, waiting patiently and growing in power while the rest of the cotenders weaken.
Now, going completely by my Mount and Blade: A Clash of Kings game: Stannis cannot be trusted. I swore fealty to him and served him for at least a week before eloping with the commander of his armies' daughter. Then the ungrateful fool refused to give me Harrenhal after I conquered it from Tywin - twice.
Now, I don't know about you all - but that disqualifies him in my opinion.
Now, I don't know about you all - but that disqualifies him in my opinion.
oh boy this is going to be so much spoilers.
I think Danny is not fit to rule. She has shown this very clearly at the beginning of the 5th book when she literally gets attacked by her own dragon.
On the other hand, Tyrion has shown his skills time and time again and he is fit to rule other people and he does not look all that bad in comparison with other chracters.
As far as people suggesting The Spider, i personally liked him, however he is nowhere to be seen since the 3rd book so unlikely he will have significant takeover (i still ahvent finished 5th book yet).
HODOR should definately sit on the throne, even if symbolically.
There is also an interesting arc with Arya, but i dont think she will ever sit on the Iron Throne becasue of it.
John snow would be a great candidate. and in fact he seems to already have a role far more important than sitting on the iron throne. however i believe he will stay in his current role till his eventual death (all men must die).
Now, i wonder if Samwell has a chance there, altrough unlikely.
On the other hand, Tyrion has shown his skills time and time again and he is fit to rule other people and he does not look all that bad in comparison with other chracters.
As far as people suggesting The Spider, i personally liked him, however he is nowhere to be seen since the 3rd book so unlikely he will have significant takeover (i still ahvent finished 5th book yet).
HODOR should definately sit on the throne, even if symbolically.
There is also an interesting arc with Arya, but i dont think she will ever sit on the Iron Throne becasue of it.
John snow would be a great candidate. and in fact he seems to already have a role far more important than sitting on the iron throne. however i believe he will stay in his current role till his eventual death (all men must die).
Now, i wonder if Samwell has a chance there, altrough unlikely.
if you dont mind spoilers, read on:FalloutJack said:
Actually, at one point Tyrion makes a trip to try and become Daenerys husband. He does not suceed however
Oh, and Daenerys does not have her shit together if they are going to keep close to the books.
Oh, and Daenerys does not have her shit together if they are going to keep close to the books.
you will be surprisedDaViller said:
The Harkinator said:
Well, considering John was voted into leader of the black watch, he sure has experience of ruling
Actually it was established even before that that Daenerys is immune to fire. she woudl hold her hand over the fire and whatnot. Altrough you are correct that it was kind of inconsistent. Also something happens in the 5th book that also reassuers her immunity, read my original spoiler if you want to know what.Silvanus said:
You lot are way, way too optimistic.
Also most of your happy ending wishful theories don't account for Aegon and Victarion.
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Who I'd wish to rule? Tyrion. He's got his head straight, he's clever and great at political games.
Who's probably gonna rule? Fucked if I know. Probably someone we don't care after Westeros barely surviving the WW menace and after corpses of everyone who killed each other trying to get the throne settle in.
Here's a guess, The High Septon rules. He turns out to be the long missing Howland Reed and unites the survivors of the wars using his power through religious following.
Also most of your happy ending wishful theories don't account for Aegon and Victarion.
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Who I'd wish to rule? Tyrion. He's got his head straight, he's clever and great at political games.
Who's probably gonna rule? Fucked if I know. Probably someone we don't care after Westeros barely surviving the WW menace and after corpses of everyone who killed each other trying to get the throne settle in.
Here's a guess, The High Septon rules. He turns out to be the long missing Howland Reed and unites the survivors of the wars using his power through religious following.
Here's another idea. Fuck the Iron Throne, drop it in the bay. No one rules.
Everyone for themselves and going back to 7 kingdoms like in the olden days.
Edit: Though, to be fair, the throne from the books is next to impossible to get to the bay.
Unless a dragon broke the keep and picked it up I guess, if even Drogon ever got that big.
Everyone for themselves and going back to 7 kingdoms like in the olden days.
Edit: Though, to be fair, the throne from the books is next to impossible to get to the bay.
Unless a dragon broke the keep and picked it up I guess, if even Drogon ever got that big.
Strazdas said:
he turns up at some stage in the books that are available, keep reading, it's pretty awesome when he does
i'm genuinely curious as to how many of the actors have read the books, because as we've already seen, characters die a lot. if i were doing that, i'd be finding out all spoilers, then rewriting the screenplay writers books so i live forever rather than die and stop being paid...
anyway as for me, i can't say without spoiling shit, so you've been warned
personally, i think Aegon has a good chance, along with littlefinger. littlefinger is playing the long game, however he may have to move sooner than expected with the downfall of the whole lannister line. Aegon i think will soon have the support of Dorne, and reclaim a fair bit for his own, but i'm unsure if there will be a divide between Aegon and Dany. although come to think of it, wherever Dany is, I think she has lost a lot of her power, or will do when Barristan the Bold goes to war with her army. As for Jon... well, i dunno. I'm genuinely torn 50/50 whether he'll stay dead or be resurrected by melissandre. Also i know it's kinda random, but it would be pretty awesome if Ayra killed one of the claimants to the throne, have her go on a badass assassination mission
Character deaths are extragarated. Lets just say the "Whoever your rooting for, he dies anyway" is false. Neither of the 3 characters i rooted for died.suitepee7 said:
That being said, i do believe most actors dont really read the material to play thier roles. Besides GG said he is changing stuff from the books anyway.
Also, 6th book? I only know of 5. What sorcery is this.
I have to say Tyrion since he seems to be the most screwed-on head wise, and actually knows how a ruler should behave and act.
Or melt the throne down into say... the Iron Shitter. Now there's some bathroom architecture there.
Or melt the throne down into say... the Iron Shitter. Now there's some bathroom architecture there.
i'm gonna assume by the three you are rooting for, this means tyrion, hodor and jon? i won't say any more if that's the case, because you haven't finished and i'm not gonna be that guy, if you really want to spoil it for yourself then you can find out for yourself online. anyway if we're going that that theory, ned should have been on there. he didn't have a claim, but as far as honour, loyalty and fairness goes, it was hard to beat.Strazdas said:
hmm, i understand they might not, but if it was me i would get too into the whole scene, and wouldn't be able to resist reading them!
and yeahh my bad, thanks for pointing that out! my copies have a dance of dragons split into two so i forgot that it's technically one big book, i usually think of part 2 as the 6th even though it isn't
Oh boy oh boy are you in for a pleasant(i think) surpriseStrazdas said:
He's obviously not interested in ruling himself though, but he puts massive weight behind one of the candidates.
That's not ruling, that's leading. His responsibilities are akin to commanding an army than ruling a Kingdom. Besides, he was deliberately brought up not being taught how to rule.Strazdas said:
Zac Jovanovic said:
I've not included Aegon because from what little I've seen, he's not going to be as great a King as everyone thinks he will be. That judgement may be marred by the sudden appearance of Aegon feeling like a very cheap inclusion because Daenerys probably can't have kids and a more viable Targaryen candidate is needed.
As for Victarion, I'm still not sure what's going to happen to him, he's probably going to rock up in Slavers Bay and smash the fleets opposing Daenerys. After that, since she's not actually there right now, he's going to have to side with the right people and hope that Daenerys returns so he can make his play.
As for Victarion, I'm still not sure what's going to happen to him, he's probably going to rock up in Slavers Bay and smash the fleets opposing Daenerys. After that, since she's not actually there right now, he's going to have to side with the right people and hope that Daenerys returns so he can make his play.
It's established that she seems to have a high heat tolerance (with exceedingly hot baths etc), but Martin himself has clarified that the funeral pyre event was a one-off, and she probably wouldn't be able to do it again:Strazdas said:
https://web.archive.org/web/20010121111400/http://eventhorizon.com/sfzine/chats/transcripts/031899.html
Ambiguity does remain about the extent of her capacity, though, you're right.George R R Martin said:
There are a couple of sample chapters available from The Winds of Winter,Strazdas said:
Arianne Martell and Theon Greyjoy.[/quote]
I imagine this is what he was referring to, though I may be wrong.
I imagine this is what he was referring to, though I may be wrong.
You are correct on two out of 3 there. I do think that the way Robb was handled in the tv show was much more impactful that in the books, and im rarely one that gets overly attached to characters so i guess ill survive whatever is coming. I will spoil myself reading the book, Im over half in and the only reason i havent finished is it takes time.suitepee7 said:
I see, my copy of 5th book is one book so i was wondering has he somehow silently finished the 6th book or something.
Well, that was very glad to hear. now i wish i was reading the book instead of working.Zac Jovanovic said:Oh boy oh boy are you in for a pleasant(i think) surprise
He's obviously not interested in ruling himself though, but he puts massive weight behind one of the candidates.
is more than an army. Its like a kingdom upon itself, self sufficient as far as economy goes and while usually the burden is shielded by two, the old one is dead and thenew one is not ready yet so he basically takes it all upon himself, including the newcommers from the north. He probably had more "ruling" to do that most kings with how much hinderance he faced. He was a good leader from the first day in there, but he also knows how to rule. at least thats my interperetations from what i read (im still to finnish the 5the book).The Harkinator said:
Have you read all the books? If you did not then DON'T open my spoilerThe Harkinator said:
It appers in the end of the 5th book that Daenerys isn't actually barren anymore.
When she gets kidnapped by Drogor and barely manages to survive, is is mentioned that she's bleeding (menstruating), indicating that she's become fertile again.
When she gets kidnapped by Drogor and barely manages to survive, is is mentioned that she's bleeding (menstruating), indicating that she's become fertile again.
Well it is pretty clear in the 5th book that Daenerys isn't very good at ruling anything really. She's too young, childish and naive to manage it.
I think she could manage it with Tyrion as a hand and teacher, but there's the thing that she still believes in a lot of her brothers stories. She still clearly hates every family that lead to the banishment of house Targaryen from Westeros and i am not sure she will accept Tyrion with open arms. She tends to be quite a bit irrational at times.
I don't think Jon will rule. Not the Iron Throne at least. He has no ambition to rule the seven kingdoms and i think he will stay commander of the watch, no matter his parentage.
I think she could manage it with Tyrion as a hand and teacher, but there's the thing that she still believes in a lot of her brothers stories. She still clearly hates every family that lead to the banishment of house Targaryen from Westeros and i am not sure she will accept Tyrion with open arms. She tends to be quite a bit irrational at times.
I don't think Jon will rule. Not the Iron Throne at least. He has no ambition to rule the seven kingdoms and i think he will stay commander of the watch, no matter his parentage.
I have to write, I don't understand Rob Stark's going after the throne at all. Renley was like, "screw it, it's up for grabs and I look good in a crown and gosh darn it, people like me!"
I hate everything about the Targaryans. Unnatural, incestuous, depending on Dragons. Dany is cool, but her family or the family she would have are not.
Stannis is a jerk that has sold his soul.
Jon Snow: not really up to the governing sort of thing.
Maybe magic will make Theon Greyjoy a whole person again, this time, wiser for his travels. He should be the next king.
I hate everything about the Targaryans. Unnatural, incestuous, depending on Dragons. Dany is cool, but her family or the family she would have are not.
Stannis is a jerk that has sold his soul.
Jon Snow: not really up to the governing sort of thing.
Maybe magic will make Theon Greyjoy a whole person again, this time, wiser for his travels. He should be the next king.