Game of Thrones Actors Voice Opinions on Who Should Rule

[The Harkinator]

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Daenerys appears to be unable to have children which puts her out of the runnings. She couldn't make a dynasty that survived her and everything would collapse after her death (assassinating Daenerys would cause anarchy in the realm) as she would have no legitimate heir. If she nominated a successor their claim to the throne would be weak enough to be challenged by any Lord Paramount. As a ruler she can do good things but a great many of her supposed successes (i.e. conquering Slavers Bay and holding it, her invasion power) are entirely reliant on the Dragons. Daenerys would like to think she is a good ruler but I don't think she is.

Tyrion would make a poor King, who would accept the Imp for the throne? Those who have read the books will also know other reasons why Tyrion would not be accepted for the throne. Besides, as capable as he is, Tyrion is much better suited to being the power behind the throne than the figurehead on it.

Jon Snow may be a skilled leader, but he knows little of ruling. Any provable claims to the throne would be shaky at best since any incidents tying him to the throne happened many years ago and only a scant few remember or even know. Good luck getting people to accept Jon is the rightful ruler.

Have you read all the books? If you did not then DON'T open my spoiler

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It appers in the end of the 5th book that Daenerys isn't actually barren anymore.
When she gets kidnapped by Drogor and barely manages to survive, is is mentioned that she's bleeding (menstruating), indicating that she's become fertile again.

As to who should rule

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Well it is pretty clear in the 5th book that Daenerys isn't very good at ruling anything really. She's too young, childish and naive to manage it.
I think she could manage it with Tyrion as a hand and teacher, but there's the thing that she still believes in a lot of her brothers stories. She still clearly hates every family that lead to the banishment of house Targaryen from Westeros and i am not sure she will accept Tyrion with open arms. She tends to be quite a bit irrational at times.

I don't think Jon will rule. Not the Iron Throne at least. He has no ambition to rule the seven kingdoms and i think he will stay commander of the watch, no matter his parentage.

I have read the books and:

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I'm not passing judgement on Daenerys and her fertility just yet. There's a lot of stuff going on right now and I wonder what will happen to Daenerys, her current situation is shaky at best. Also since GRRM has a new Targaryen to play with. As for her abilities as a ruler, I agree with you. She only gets by because of the dragons, the ideas of people around her and the plot moving to accommodate everything she does. She's made enemies and mistakes in great measure and doesn't quite grasp she can't fix slavers bay and leave for Westeros at the same time. As soon as she leaves things will change back and be worse than ever. So many in Essos want her dead or gone and Quarth especially is angry.

As for Jon, it's true he hasn't got the ambition. I think he's convinced being Lord Commander is the most important thing ever and nothing will change that. He's violated his honour once and he won't want to do so again.

 

[Amaror]

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I'm not passing judgement on Daenerys and her fertility just yet. There's a lot of stuff going on right now and I wonder what will happen to Daenerys, her current situation is shaky at best. Also since GRRM has a new Targaryen to play with. As for her abilities as a ruler, I agree with you. She only gets by because of the dragons, the ideas of people around her and the plot moving to accommodate everything she does. She's made enemies and mistakes in great measure and doesn't quite grasp she can't fix slavers bay and leave for Westeros at the same time. As soon as she leaves things will change back and be worse than ever. So many in Essos want her dead or gone and Quarth especially is angry.

As for Jon, it's true he hasn't got the ambition. I think he's convinced being Lord Commander is the most important thing ever and nothing will change that. He's violated his honour once and he won't want to do so again.

yeah, but

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I really think it could actually work out with Daenerys if she gets Tyrion on her side and listens to him.

She's not really stupid, but young, inexperienced and naive. Unlike a lot of her other Advisors Tyrion doesn't have a problem calling higher ups out on stupid mistakes they are about to make, which should save her from doing more major mistakes.
Also he can teach her about how to rule a court and how to deal with intrigues.
I also don't really blame her for failing a lot in the beginning of her rule. None of her advisors are politicians, all of them are warriours and the only real leadership she witnessed was from her dead husband leading a group of nomads. That kind of ruling just doesn't fit a monarchy.

 

[Ghadente]

I would want the Starks and Targaryen to join forces and take over. John Snow and Daenerys should hook up and breed dragonborn to take over all.

 

[Alssadar]

Stannis the Mannis!
"Upon this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, is much safer to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with. Because this is to be asserted in general of men, that they are ungrateful, fickle, false, cowardly, covetous, and as long as you succeed they are yours entirely; they will offer you their blood, property, life and children, as is said above, when the need is far distant; but when it approaches they turn against you. And that prince who, relying entirely on their promises, has neglected other precautions, is ruined; because friendships that are obtained by payments, and not by greatness or nobility of mind, may indeed be earned, but they are not secured, and in time of need cannot be relied upon; and men have less scruple in offending one who is beloved than one who is feared, for love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails." - Machiavelli, The Prince

Though, just saying, Bron is totally winning the Game of Thrones.

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He goes from Mercenary to knight, to a landowner with a wealthy wife.

 

[Alssadar]

I have to write, I don't understand Rob Stark's going after the throne at all. Renley was like, "screw it, it's up for grabs and I look good in a crown and gosh darn it, people like me!"

I hate everything about the Targaryans. Unnatural, incestuous, depending on Dragons. Dany is cool, but her family or the family she would have are not.

Stannis is a jerk that has sold his soul.

Jon Snow: not really up to the governing sort of thing.

Maybe magic will make Theon Greyjoy a whole person again, this time, wiser for his travels. He should be the next king.

Rob Stark wanted individuality and to no longer have to pay fealty to the Southlands; an individual North that no longer was ruled by another, who was removed from the worries of the North.
Renly saw his brother as incompetent, and seized. He was no more than an opportunist with a large army and popular support from the land, which are necessary to obtaining a kingdom.
The Targaryans we know of are Daenerys, Viserys. Viserys wanted a throne badly, and, being denied power for most of your life would be one to drive one mad. Dany is a decent person, but being nice is not how one can control a kingdom. Justice and strength are necessary tactics to ensure order.

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There's Master Aemon of the Night's watch, who was pretty wise, and

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and Young Griff (Aegon), who was rather tempered, but there's room for him to grow, and the right advisors could steer him in the right direction.

Stannis has not sold his soul: he heeds the words of Gods whose power is actually corporeal, and knows the value of justice, albeit without any mercy.
Jon Snow. I agree
Theon Greyjoy will never be the same youth, and, even if he was, he would be a poor king. Where would his loyalties lie? Tied to his father as his family ties demand, or to the honor of Eddard Stark? Would he then switch to the opinions of the Southern lords? He is too self-conscious, which would make poor for one who would have to make decisions. I pity him, but he chose his path.

 

[Norix596]

"Anyone but Geoffry."

Word.

 

[gorfias]

Rob Stark wanted individuality and to no longer have to pay fealty to the Southlands; an individual North that no longer was ruled by another, who was removed from the worries of the North.

At best, I got the idea that the Lannisters picked a fight with him and the only way to fight back was to agree to be King to those who would help him. Otherwise, personal desires aside, I think he would have fought his Dad's fight and worked to put Stannis in power.

The Targaryans we know of are Daenerys, Viserys. Viserys wanted a throne badly, and, being denied power for most of your life would be one to drive one mad. Dany is a decent person, but being nice is not how one can control a kingdom.

True. As far as I'm concerned, she got Drago killed, willing him to do things he knew were wrong for the circumstances.

Stannis has not sold his soul: he heeds the words of Gods whose power is actually corporeal, and knows the value of justice, albeit without any mercy.

The Onion Knight would disagree! Reminds me of my class' objections of the Illiad. We were fine with the gods protecting heros, but when one of them (Apollo?) magically strikes a human being (can't recall if the guy died, or just was so hurt that he was open season for another human to kill) it seemed like a low blow. There's just something that feels like a low blow about the way Stannis gets Renly. (And if that's a spoiler for anyone, you probably shouldn't be reading this thread!)

Theon Greyjoy ... would be a poor king.... I pity him, but he chose his path.

He did, but more than just about any other character in the show, I appreciate his lust for life.

I heard someone say Jamie Lannister is becoming the "Sawyer" of the show. I find myself rooting for him, but keep reminding myself of his murder of a squire during his captivity. I don't recall that happening in the books. Oh, and what he did to Bran. (in the book, he almost makes you believe the kid had it coming!)