I'm fine with a little bit of flexibility on the passage of time, but what bugs me is how no-one in the show is acting like any time has passed.RiseOfTheWhiteWolf said:
So Jorah goes to Oldtown to get treated for his greyscale. In the second episode, the grand maester tells him that it's fatal, and then says that he'll be kicked out in the morning, because they need the room for patients they can treat. Then Sam does a dangerous forbidden surgery to treat the greyscale, and it works fine.
Skip to episode 3. The grand maester is examining Jorah's scabs, which look like they've had at least a few weeks of time to heal up - he had most of the skin of his chest removed, after all, and now he's basically free to leave. In the rest of the show, actions are happening that should have taken a few weeks; Jon has gone from Winterfell to Dragonstone, for example. So at this point, I'm assuming that a couple of weeks have passed since the end of the second episode and the start of the third.
But. The grand maester acts like this is the first time he's examined Jorah since his initial diagnosis. He reprimands Sam as if he just now found out that Sam had done the dangerous forbidden surgery. And he even said in the first episode; if Jorah doesn't commit suicide that night, he'll be kicked out the next day. But if Jorah has been healing up for the past few weeks, he should've had that conversation with Sam weeks ago. It would be important for him to do so, because if the operation had failed and Sam had contracted greyscale, he's an infection risk and needs to be quarantined! But it's only now that he bothers to bring Sam into his office and tell him off.
So what happened? Did the maester forget about Jorah for a few weeks? Did Jorah heal up overnight after having a ton of flesh literally stripped off? Why didn't anyone come into the cell to kick Jorah out, see him all bandaged and salved up immediately post-surgery, and go "hey, this guy's had some surgery done to him!" and then call the maester over to go examine him?
It's surprisingly little details like that which bug the crap out of me. They're what ruins my ability to suspend disbelief. You want weeks or months passing in between scenes, that's fine, but you can't have weeks or months pass in the narrative and then have the characters all act as if no time whatsoever has passed. It makes no sense. This is a series with an army of zombies and a fireproof lady who gave birth to three dragons, and it's only when the show starts twisting time into wibbly-wobbly knots that I actually go "Hey, this is bullshit!"
Skip to episode 3. The grand maester is examining Jorah's scabs, which look like they've had at least a few weeks of time to heal up - he had most of the skin of his chest removed, after all, and now he's basically free to leave. In the rest of the show, actions are happening that should have taken a few weeks; Jon has gone from Winterfell to Dragonstone, for example. So at this point, I'm assuming that a couple of weeks have passed since the end of the second episode and the start of the third.
But. The grand maester acts like this is the first time he's examined Jorah since his initial diagnosis. He reprimands Sam as if he just now found out that Sam had done the dangerous forbidden surgery. And he even said in the first episode; if Jorah doesn't commit suicide that night, he'll be kicked out the next day. But if Jorah has been healing up for the past few weeks, he should've had that conversation with Sam weeks ago. It would be important for him to do so, because if the operation had failed and Sam had contracted greyscale, he's an infection risk and needs to be quarantined! But it's only now that he bothers to bring Sam into his office and tell him off.
So what happened? Did the maester forget about Jorah for a few weeks? Did Jorah heal up overnight after having a ton of flesh literally stripped off? Why didn't anyone come into the cell to kick Jorah out, see him all bandaged and salved up immediately post-surgery, and go "hey, this guy's had some surgery done to him!" and then call the maester over to go examine him?
It's surprisingly little details like that which bug the crap out of me. They're what ruins my ability to suspend disbelief. You want weeks or months passing in between scenes, that's fine, but you can't have weeks or months pass in the narrative and then have the characters all act as if no time whatsoever has passed. It makes no sense. This is a series with an army of zombies and a fireproof lady who gave birth to three dragons, and it's only when the show starts twisting time into wibbly-wobbly knots that I actually go "Hey, this is bullshit!"
I wouldn't be so sure. He's still needed to keep the Vale allied with the North, and Sansa seems to value his advice enough to let him follow her around all day talking about how she's gotta be sharp.RiseOfTheWhiteWolf said:
Littlefinger's gonna die, for sure, but it'll either be at the end of this season or during the next one.
Maybe. Sansa needs a reason to do that, though. Jon hasn't been sucking up to Daenaerys, which is one thing that might cause the Northern nobles to revolt. His expedition was actually very successful; rather than being held hostage until he agrees to swear fealty, he leaves with a stack of dragonglass to make weapons with and more to come.RiseOfTheWhiteWolf said:
Cucked? Like...the Night King is gonna resurrect Ygritte? And then...shag her in front of Jon?RiseOfTheWhiteWolf said:
I figure they're saving that one for the last episode, sadly. And why would it be a surprise? Mance Rayder had that whole thing about the fake Horn of Winter. At least, that was in the books. Did they cut that from the show?RiseOfTheWhiteWolf said:
But it wouldn't be surprising if the real one turned up in the Night King's hands and he used that to bring the Wall down. I think they should've done it in the first episode. That'd be one hell of a way to start the season.
I actually don't think they'll hook up. They seemed to kind of...hate each other, when they first met. That would be a legitimate twist; have the fanbase's one true super-couple finally meet, and then have each of them discover that the other one is their boner-Kryptonite.RiseOfTheWhiteWolf said:
My money is on Jon dying during the White Walker invasion and Daenerys surviving to rule Westeros.
Alternately, everything north of Dorne gets zombied, 90% of the cast get eaten, and Tyrion declares himself Dwarf-King of the ashes.
I do agree with all of this. This is all playing out far too predictably.RiseOfTheWhiteWolf said:
Jorah's looking for a cure for greyscale? Well, he'll go to Oldtown and meet Sam, and Sam'll cure him. Saw that coming last season. Melisandre gets exiled? She'll go back to Dragonstone, duh. Jon needs dragonglass? He'll go meet Daenerys, ah-durr. Everyone hates the Sand Snakes? They'll get murdered!
Like, at this point, I'm like "Wow! I wonder if one of the dragons will get killed by a ballista! And I wonder if all that wildfire that's still under the city might show up again when a bunch of dragons are setting the city on fire! I wonder if Arya will run into the Hound?!"
Five dollars on each of those ones happening.
