Game Overthinker: "Building A Better Gamer"

[Evilbunny]

This feels a bit unfair to me. First of all, he is implying that this general ignorance about the world around us is unique to gamers and the gaming community. This is simply not true. For example, there is a guy at the gym I go to who is really into working out. He subscribes to the whole lifestyle. He works out constantly, drinks protein shakes for breakfast lunch and dinner, and my conversations with him are basically limited to the building of muscle mass, but you know what? That's ok. He is happy, and I can see every day that I'm there that he is happy with what he does. He has friends, a girlfriend, and he feels accomplished every day when he leaves the gym. I believe that the overall goal in life is to simply be happy. If playing games makes you happy then you go ahead and play games. The only problem is if you are not happy with this. If you are depressed a lot because you're overweight, have no friends, and women generally find you unappealing, then maybe you should try out some of that advice, but if you are happy with the way you are, then you just live your life.

Furthermore, I think it is a little unfair to say that "everyone should know" a certain factoid. What seems important to you may not be of interest to others. I'm sure my father would think everyone should know the starting pitcher for the Yankees, but I know several people that couldn't care less about sports let alone the Yankees. I think that everyone should know what Shadow of the Colossus is but am I going to berate people and call them stupid for not knowing? No, of course not. I would have to be a jerk to do that. That's what Moviebob is, a jerk. He's a jerk that thinks he's better than everyone else because he's read a few books we haven't read or seen a few movies we've never seen.

 

[Epimeteo]

I think that the fact that gamers are willing to dissmiss these videos, is reason enough for the videos themselves to be put out there. Maybe now that you're a 20 something year old with the delightful fantasy that it is ok to overlook the common sense advices within these videos, but that does not mean that you won't be a 40 something year old that regrets not listening in due time.

Its advice by gamers for gamers, the least they deserve is a polite nod.

"you will not understand the power and beauty of your youth until they fade it" -Baz Luhrmann.

Oh! and beware, a culturaly liable gaming demographic will mean culturaly liable games in the future, If the gaming community sucks, games in turn will start sucking more to be able to sell. (reality tv annyone?)

 

[More Fun To Compute]

At the end of the video he pointed out how people can bond over their love of gaming in real life, and that this was the only real value of gaming. Well that seems to be the value of any form of entertainment. What good does watching TV or a movie, reading a book, or writing a poem do if you don't use it as a way to have social interactions with others? So if gaming has no value outside of this, then neither do any of the other activities that he suggested spending my time on rather than gaming. None of it has a value unless it's used as a way to interact with others. I'm having difficulty expressing my thoughts here, so I apologize if this paragraph sounded like nothing other than incoherent rambling.

Most of us have the luxury of having some freedom of choice when it comes to spending our time and have to have some sort of strategy on how to go about it. If forming lots of strong social bonds is someone's priority then an activity like reading novels is just as much of a waste of time to them as it would to someone who is totally focussed on career or money. I guess they would rather watch sports with friends or go for a meal with their family.

There is a TED talk that I watched a week or so that is still on my mind.

http://www.ted.com/talks/daniel_kahneman_the_riddle_of_experience_vs_memory.html

The problem is that if this guy is working out if his time was well spent based only on his memory then he has a bias against thinking clearly. It's possible to make bad choices that make you unhappy if you only focus on trying to do the things you will be proud of if when you remember them later.

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

I am pleasantly stunned at the discourse I've seen here today, STUNNED! Everyone has been very civil, very articulate, very wordy and very smart on both sides of the argument. Bravo Escapist!

 

[DrDeath3191]

He means well, but if I have no interest in certain things why the hell should I partake in them? I am not interested in the works of Ayn Rand, I have no interest in politics or 'high art'. Why should I persue thing in which I have no interest?

 

[Mr Wednesday]

Is the first video aimed at seven year olds?

Now, I like Moviebob's stuff, but I slightly resent being told to exercise by a guy who is considerably larger than me.

Maybe I just wasn't the intended audience.

Edit: Oh, he comments on that. Still, he really should have prefaced the whole exercise thing with that.

 

[Outright Villainy]

the advices are pretty solid overall for a better life
especially the MMO related ones
but i'm not sure if the problem is as big as he says

Which were my thought exactly. It's common sense. I don't know anyone who games and has any problems like that. I would be the worst, because I don't excersice that much (save walking to and from college) but I'm pretty lazy anyway, it's got nothing to do with gaming. And I'm not even overweight at all.
The whole problem with douchebags on Live or other Online players has very little to do with gaming. Douchebags are always douchebags and they'll just find another way to do it. The reason it's so prevalent in gaming is because in real life they'd get a sound beating, and online doesn't give you that luxury unfortunately.

 

[Outright Villainy]

I'm nowhere near as active in Gaming Discussion as I used to be, as there seemed to be less threads I can post massive replies to like this (and probably outrage someone and get in an argument).

Well you're not getting one from me, I agree with everything you just said. It's good to have posts like this that can sum up my opinion suspiciously well, and I don't even have to write it.
So kudos to you good sir!

 

[Internet Kraken]

I am pleasantly stunned at the discourse I've seen here today, STUNNED! Everyone has been very civil, very articulate, very wordy and very smart on both sides of the argument. Bravo Escapist!

See, I don't think this should be surprising. While MovieBob's video is currently unavailable to me for some reason, I remember what he said at the end. I remember that he said that the biggest problem with gamers is that we have no idea how to behave properly, and that the main reason for this is online gaming. I completley disagree.

Playing a game online does not automatically make you a jerk. It does not automatically make you socially inept. You're still the same person online that you are in real life. These people that constantly berate others and swear profusely in online games are usually just immature, an ass, or a troll. Immature people are just that; immature. There going to be immature online, and they're going to be immature in real life as well. Granted they can say whatever they want without repercussions in a video game, so this leads to them seeming a lot worse than they actually are. Assholes are just going to continue being jerks regardless of what you say or do. And trolls are just griefing you for their own amusement. Again, the anonymity of the internet allows them to do so without repercussions.

But you know what? In my experience, these people are the minority. A very loud, foulmouthed one, but a minority none the less. For every person that picks up a mic and starts spewing racial slurs, I can usually count at least 20 other people that haven't done anything wrong. Am I to assume that all these people are asses as well? It's much easier to notice the annoying jerk rather than the well-mannered player. The annoying jerk goes out of his way to make himself heard. It's easy to get the impression that a lot of gamers are just like these people, but once I really started paying attention to who was saying what, I noticed that most gamers just want to play the damn game.

So no, I don't think this is a problem. If people are going to judge a massive number of people based on the actions of a few fools, than that is there problem. And no, you can't really do much about them, despite Movie Bob's wild claims to the contrary. Logging out just because one player is being an ass? No thanks, I'd rather just mute him and play with the other 22 players that haven't done anything wrong. And mocking them doesn't really accomplish much either. And if it's a troll, you're just doing exactly what they want.

I don't think this is a new thing. There have always been jerks in the real world. And if you're going to judge an entire group based on the actions of the minority, then you're being a fool. I got the impression that Movie Bob was just venting his rage against an aspect of gaming that he derives no joy from, and only sees the problems that come with it.

 

[hittite]

I agree wholeheartedly. Get out of the house! Or at least play split screen.

(I realize the irony of the fact that I say this while sitting in a basement and typing on a computer while contemplating how many weeks since I've been to the gym.)

 

[Crunchy English]

Moviebob or Game Overthinker or Bob Chipman or whatever is really just an average guy trying to help. Really, that's all he is. He's smart, but lots of gamers are smart. The element that sets him apart is the same one that pisses some people off:

He refuses to leave anything unsaid.

That includes the really obvious stuff about fitness and the really controversial stuff about shutting your damn mouth on Xbox Live. (Yes, most reasonable people would consider manners to be fairly uncontroversial, but some dink always shows up with the "Free Speech" brigade in order to fight for the right to be stupid)

It's not win-win. In fact it makes him come across pandering, but its a necessity to communicate clearly on the internet and it does underline his main purpose, the make you think. The Escapist's features arguably do this better than his little video-edit episodes, and sometimes he gets us to think about things that really aren't worth considering, but its nice to see the common man fight to better the image of his hobby.

 

[kawaiiamethist]

I love the Game Overthinker, but even I have to admit that got unnecessarily preachy.

But I recognise there are people who resemble the stereotype, but I like to think that the majority of us don't. I have friends I see minimum twice weekly, I attend the gym at least thrice weekly, I rarely snack when playing games, I keep up with current events and am well immersed in pop culture.

What I do need to change is my nasty habit of only getting up to make a coffee or pee when I'm playing games. I play RPGs (mostly JRPGs, yes I am working through FFXIII), and I approach them as a task that must be completed, or a project, rather than pure entertainment. The funny thing about this is, a major reason I want to get my games done is so I can go online and discuss strategy and viewpoints, and do fan arts.

 

[The Random One]

The Escapist has spoiled you guys. Go to a place like GameFAQs and every other person you meet is a narrow-minded manchild.

However, his pleas fall on deaf ears. Anyone who's willing to watch a half-hour video that's about gaming CULTURE is already not the kind of gamer that fits his definition. It's the same reason I cringe whenever I see someone defending violent games in a gaming-oriented website. Yes, yes, you're right. I know. Go talk to someone who disagrees with you.

The problem with following the media isn't so much that not following it makes you boring, but more that not following it is a symptom of apathy. Gaming is, at heart, about escapism, so people who indulge more - enough to want to call themselves a gamer - are people who enjoy 'escaping' more. However, a people that is disconnected from their local politics is a people that is easily pushed around by politicians. Videogames aren't the only thing to do this, of course - as a matter of fact, I think TV is much worse in that aspect - but you can't cry foul only when your right to play videogames is at hand, you have to cry foul whenever something you don't agree with comes around. (That's one of the reasons I'm not too fond of how the 'Gamers 4 Croyton' thing are handling the whole Atkinson thing. They're making it be about videogames, when it should be about freedom of culture. Plus their chosen name would be more at home as an energy drink.)

I don't see how being more fit helps gaming as a culture. Unless everyone does it the stereotype won't go anywhere, and most gamers are skinny anyway. Some people game because they're lazy, and gaming is something they can do easily, but most people game because they like interactive intellectual stimulation. For me, particularly, most of the things I consider fun are completely sedentary, but I have no problem walking home from work every day, which takes about an hour. I'm fat.

The first movie's idea, that you should always consume something that creates value rather that wastes time, is one of the thing that sounds awesome but can't really be brought to a realistic proposal to improve one's life. If I go out and swim in the pool with my friends, am I wasting time? You could say that you are creating value by increasing your bond with your friends. So if I do so alone then I am wasting time? Then you could say the value comes from the exercise, but if I do it just because I like being in the pool rather than with the express intent to exercise, it means that whether an activity creates value or not is dependant on how you think, and you can't really change that - if I don't like swimming I just don't. Likewise, you could say that reading a book adds value, but it's not inherent to it. What value is gained from reading, say, an erotic novel? If you agree that reading some books is creation of value and reading others is waste of time then where's the line drawn? Is it at Twilight? At Dan Brown? At Neil Gaiman? At Dostoyevski? It may look like I'm nitpicking but if I had been moved by that movie and wanted to change my life based on it those questions would present themselves. (Of course, since I can write well but spend most of time goofing around on the internet this particular conundrum may be more clear-cut for me, but it's still far from an universal truth.)

Marketing energy drink to gamers is murder. That thing's the equivalent of drinking a bucket of lard unless you just did a buttload of exercise, which is what energy drinks were created to be.

Almonds are awesome, but I don't eat snacks.

 

[Jumplion]

I'm just going to repost what I said on the video:

I would just like to say, bravo OverThinker. You definitely speak your mind and it's a great thing that you do that. I wish I could be determined enough to start my own series on my views, but I'm lazy and paranoid about the internet nowadays

But when you got to the behavior part of your rant, you missed a huge opportunity on how gamers react to it's critiques. Gamers as a whole do get criticized for some of the things that happen. Mass Effect sex scene, Hot coffee, video game "related" deaths, etc... But how do gamers react when there is valid criticism or really when it doesn't even matter?

Quite frankly, we react like ****.

Remember back to when Resident Evil 5 was "accused" of racism. The man (his name escapes me at the moment, but I believe he was in Destructoid) had noted that a recent trailer had some racial undertones with a white man gunning down Africans. You yourself did a rant on the subject, and eventually came to see what he was talking about.

Now, I'm not here to debate whether RE5 was racist, but the reaction that came from it was completely unacceptable.

People started saying "IT'S NOT RACIST!@$!#" and "IT'D BE RACIST IF THERE WASN'T BLACK PEOPLE!!! IT'S IN AFRICA!$@!#%".

The problem was, that was never the argument. The argument was that the Africans were depicted negatively, whether intentionally or not. But nonetheless, people just completely ignored the possibility of some racial undertones and continued to stick their fingers in their ears going "LALALALALALALA!"

Another example, a few weeks/months ago there was the "Frumpy Mom" incident. She was just a random mother with her own blog, nothing harmful whatsoever. But the moment she posted a blog about how she doesn't alow her children to play games because she believes they are bad for them, all of a sudden the entire "culture" is up and arms and going ballistic.

People threatened her, they wished she would die. All sorts of crap, just because she stated an opinion. People started giving out baseless accusations that she was a bad mother, and I've even read a comment that said "I bet she doesn't let her kids watch porn. How are they ever going to grow up in the real world?"

The way we react to criticisms, especially valid ones, is absolutely horrendous. Even if the criticisms are completely baseless, Atkinson comes to mind, we completely fall flat on our faces when responding to them and it only makes us look like even bigger pig-nosed, snot-filled, bratty bastard babies who what everyone to take their acne-ridden faces seriously.

Hell, we hardly take ourselves seriously, lord knows if anyone else can.

I really don't know what to do, but overall you pointed out many good points and "The Only Thing I Know" video was also a really great introspective view on our "culture". I just thought you missed on a huge opportunity to anger gamers further ;\

Overall, I still think that (though it is only about an hour long at the time of this post). Gamers really do have a problem facing criticism and it's damn embarrassing when people like Jack Thompson or Micheal Atkinson go around, claiming that gamers are "stupid, uneducated, improper people" and gamers react that same exact way. You'd think we'd respond by, you know, acting mature instead of being insipid morons wanting death upon anyone who wishes or even THINKS or harming the great videogame industry!

 

[UnusualStranger]

Want to know where I stopped paying too much attention? The beginning.

MovieBob is an alright guy. This vid you just had me watch is just trying to put some intelligence into a lot of idiots. Eat healthy, work out a little, don't be a violent asshole...

But the main reason I stopped at the beginning is when his first line was "Media demonizeing gamers is a two way street. Meaning some of us are giving them something to judge."

The problem with this is that once you have a reputation, it tends to stick. My friends regard me as a somewhat off, crazy, but friendly and strategic bastard. Just about anything I do will probably not change that. Same can be said of gamers. Just a few dumbasses can put a really bad face on gaming, and there is usually nothing anyone can do about it.

News likes to sensationalize things, meaning if one gamer, or small group of gamers, acts like a dumbass, then they MUST ALL be like that. And last I checked, there isn't too many official rebuttals that gamers can look to in order to push this terrible idea away, only the company of the game, or gamers themselves. And as a still evolving group, we gamers don't exactly know how to put out a group statement saying "Those guys were dumbasses, and are not like all of us!" to a point in which a lot of people can hear.

 

[SkullCap]

What exactly do you expect from an internet forum about video games? Do you think we should be constantly having deep philosophical discussions? You speak like the rarity of threads like this in game discussion is a problem. We don't need more threads like this. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say that threads like this are a bad thing. If I did, I wouldn't have bothered to make such long response. I just don't think it's necessary for most threads have the lengthy and detailed discussion found in this one. Also, isn't is a bit odd to tell people to have more detailed discussions when you yourself didn't contribute to the thread (at least in the first post)? This always mystifies me about threads on this website. So many OP's tend to not even express their own opinion on the topic.

Here are my thoughts. The one thing that people seem to forget is that the videos don't promote an anti-gaming message, but a message on TIME MANAGEMENT.

The Only Thing I Know video is a guy sharing his own personal experience with gaming and when he devoted TOO much time in his life to gaming he missed out on a lot in life. His story is to have us consider gamings effect on ourselves. He's not saying video games are E-VIL or that his results will happen to you, but he's telling us what he knows, which is WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM. Understand that.

Bob's video was not for everybody, but for the sad cases. The ones that devote too much time to gaming and miss out a lot in life. The X-Box Live trolls, the friendless shut-ins, etc.

Kraken: "But I'm not one of those guys!" GOOD! You should be glad you were raised to treat human beings with some common courtesy rather than these foul-mouthed brats that say "F*CK YOU!" "I'll rape your ass till it bleeds!" because they think just because no one's there in front of them they can treat people they never met like dirt. That's unacceptable and sometimes I want to smack their parents across the head for poorly raising their little ungrateful demon spawn without some manners. 1st Amendment doesn't say you can be a foul-mouthed bastard to complete strangers.

When I game I play with my family, my friends at college, and when I have some downtime. There's nothing wrong with that, but I don't let it control me. I exercise, read books, newspapers, write novels, walk, play the bongos, and just enjoy life.

When I first watched the videos I wanted more people to see this. That's why I posted the links. I don't completely agree with either videos, but I feel they were necessary to be viewed by other people. That's how media should be shared: informing the public, give their personal opinions, and then allow the public to form their OWN OPINION. Hell, maybe even stir up a deeper conversation other than the same dang BEST GAME, CHICK, CONSOLE, GENRE, MOMENT, or whatever the hell unoriginal or lack of creativity indicator EVAR! thread that stagnates in every single gaming thread on this terrestrial BALL! Is that so wrong to ask for a little more variety in a game discussion board? Seriously these threads are getting to be so boring without someone either sharing a link or THINKING about creative ways to stand out in their threads.

Theres nothing wrong with wanting some variety on threads.
Kraken: But I never said I didn't want variety!

Never said you did.

These videos didn't really give me much, but I think they can reach the people that really need to remember that unless they're getting paid, gaming is a hobby that involves playing with a toy.

Those are my thoughts. Shalom.

P.S.-Do you think I would post my own opinion before I saw more than 10 people post extensive intelligent responses. That's what I want to see rather than "Scyther is MY personal favorite pokemon" from dozens of favorite pokemon threads.

 

[Wildrow12]

I'm just going to repost what I said on the video:

I would just like to say, bravo OverThinker. You definitely speak your mind and it's a great thing that you do that. I wish I could be determined enough to start my own series on my views, but I'm lazy and paranoid about the internet nowadays

But when you got to the behavior part of your rant, you missed a huge opportunity on how gamers react to it's critiques. Gamers as a whole do get criticized for some of the things that happen. Mass Effect sex scene, Hot coffee, video game "related" deaths, etc... But how do gamers react when there is valid criticism or really when it doesn't even matter?

Quite frankly, we react like ****.

Remember back to when Resident Evil 5 was "accused" of racism. The man (his name escapes me at the moment, but I believe he was in Destructoid) had noted that a recent trailer had some racial undertones with a white man gunning down Africans. You yourself did a rant on the subject, and eventually came to see what he was talking about.

Now, I'm not here to debate whether RE5 was racist, but the reaction that came from it was completely unacceptable.

People started saying "IT'S NOT RACIST!@$!#" and "IT'D BE RACIST IF THERE WASN'T BLACK PEOPLE!!! IT'S IN AFRICA!$@!#%".

The problem was, that was never the argument. The argument was that the Africans were depicted negatively, whether intentionally or not. But nonetheless, people just completely ignored the possibility of some racial undertones and continued to stick their fingers in their ears going "LALALALALALALA!"

Another example, a few weeks/months ago there was the "Frumpy Mom" incident. She was just a random mother with her own blog, nothing harmful whatsoever. But the moment she posted a blog about how she doesn't alow her children to play games because she believes they are bad for them, all of a sudden the entire "culture" is up and arms and going ballistic.

People threatened her, they wished she would die. All sorts of crap, just because she stated an opinion. People started giving out baseless accusations that she was a bad mother, and I've even read a comment that said "I bet she doesn't let her kids watch porn. How are they ever going to grow up in the real world?"

The way we react to criticisms, especially valid ones, is absolutely horrendous. Even if the criticisms are completely baseless, Atkinson comes to mind, we completely fall flat on our faces when responding to them and it only makes us look like even bigger pig-nosed, snot-filled, bratty bastard babies who what everyone to take their acne-ridden faces seriously.

Hell, we hardly take ourselves seriously, lord knows if anyone else can.

I really don't know what to do, but overall you pointed out many good points and "The Only Thing I Know" video was also a really great introspective view on our "culture". I just thought you missed on a huge opportunity to anger gamers further ;\

Overall, I still think that (though it is only about an hour long at the time of this post). Gamers really do have a problem facing criticism and it's damn embarrassing when people like Jack Thompson or Micheal Atkinson go around, claiming that gamers are "stupid, uneducated, improper people" and gamers react that same exact way. You'd think we'd respond by, you know, acting mature instead of being insipid morons wanting death upon anyone who wishes or even THINKS or harming the great videogame industry!

My thoughts exactly, compadre.

One need only see the comments that the OTIK video got (from YouTube to Destructoid to any where else you care to mention) to see that many gamers are playing right into Jackie and Mikey's hands.

 

[SkullCap]

Overall, I still think that (though it is only about an hour long at the time of this post). Gamers really do have a problem facing criticism and it's damn embarrassing when people like Jack Thompson or Micheal Atkinson go around, claiming that gamers are "stupid, uneducated, improper people" and gamers react that same exact way. You'd think we'd respond by, you know, acting mature instead of being insipid morons wanting death upon anyone who wishes or even THINKS or harming the great videogame industry!

My thoughts exactly, compadre.

One need only see the comments that the OTIK video got (from YouTube to Destructoid to any where else you care to mention) to see that many gamers are playing right into Jackie and Mikey's hands.

Quite frankly Bob could've spent a whole episode on common courtesy in gaming. The original point for interacting online gaming was to enjoy the company of fellow gamers and make new friends. However, what's a stereotype of gaming do you see portrayed in the media? A lonely, fat, loser wearing a headset and yelling insults like a child. Xbox Live is filled with the same garbage you find Youtube comments section or in any major gaming website forum. I find it repulsive and its talk on XBox Live makes me embarrassed to be called a gamer.

Oh btw, I actually looked on Destructoid concerning The Only Thing I know video here are some of the comments I've read:

Darkside2984
"Fuck this cocklung. By his logic I should not be reading a book or doing anything which does not produce something tangible. I for one am happy that this whiny son of a ***** was tied to a keyboard or controller for 30 years instead of spreading his "it's all your fault" bullshit logic to others. Hope he goes to the gym and meets a nice guy so he can finally figure out what really ended his marriage.
On a side note, burning the physical copies of World of Warcraft really is a symbolic gesture. Doubt a wuss like him actually deleted his characters.
Sorry you couldn't balance a hobby and real life. I am sure you won't have this problem with other things..."

Leon Field
"Video Games are not a waste of my life thank you Brian. (the guy in the video).
In fact when I'm currently studying to design games, that is my ambition. I'm nto passing that up. dick."

EVERY COMMENT ON THAT THREAD AT DESTRUCTOID WERE LIKE THESE TWO COMMENTS. Only two commented on how that it was his opinion and although they don't really agree with it they allow Brian (video creator) to have his opinion. The rest is just a childish defensive rant from people insulting him, laughing at his divorce, and acting like those worthless XBOX LIVE trolls. What is wrong with these people???

 

[SkullCap]

Overall, I still think that (though it is only about an hour long at the time of this post). Gamers really do have a problem facing criticism and it's damn embarrassing when people like Jack Thompson or Micheal Atkinson go around, claiming that gamers are "stupid, uneducated, improper people" and gamers react that same exact way. You'd think we'd respond by, you know, acting mature instead of being insipid morons wanting death upon anyone who wishes or even THINKS or harming the great videogame industry!

My thoughts exactly, compadre.

One need only see the comments that the OTIK video got (from YouTube to Destructoid to any where else you care to mention) to see that many gamers are playing right into Jackie and Mikey's hands.

Quite frankly Bob could've spent a whole episode on common courtesy in gaming. The original point for interacting online gaming was to enjoy the company of fellow gamers and make new friends. However, what's a stereotype of gaming do you see portrayed in the media? A lonely, fat, loser wearing a headset and yelling insults like a child. Xbox Live is filled with the same garbage you find Youtube comments section or in any major gaming website forum. I find it repulsive and its talk on XBox Live makes me embarrassed to be called a gamer.

Oh btw, I actually looked on Destructoid concerning The Only Thing I know video here are some of the comments I've read:

Darkside2984
"Fuck this cocklung. By his logic I should not be reading a book or doing anything which does not produce something tangible. I for one am happy that this whiny son of a ***** was tied to a keyboard or controller for 30 years instead of spreading his "it's all your fault" bullshit logic to others. Hope he goes to the gym and meets a nice guy so he can finally figure out what really ended his marriage.
On a side note, burning the physical copies of World of Warcraft really is a symbolic gesture. Doubt a wuss like him actually deleted his characters.
Sorry you couldn't balance a hobby and real life. I am sure you won't have this problem with other things..."

Leon Field
"Video Games are not a waste of my life thank you Brian. (the guy in the video).
In fact when I'm currently studying to design games, that is my ambition. I'm nto passing that up. dick."

EVERY COMMENT ON THAT THREAD AT DESTRUCTOID WERE LIKE THESE TWO COMMENTS. Only two commented on how that it was his opinion and although they don't really agree with it they allow Brian (video creator) to have his opinion. The rest is just a childish defensive rant from people insulting him, laughing at his divorce, and acting like those worthless XBOX LIVE trolls. What is wrong with these people???

It's just so frustrating to think that people can be this DAMN DUMB.