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Sovvolf

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Raika said:
Final Fantasy VI's fans have made the game seem extremely undesirable to me. I have yet to have Final Fantasy VI pitched to me in a way that isn't just a massive Final Fantasy VII bash.

"Oh, man, it's so much better than VII. You'll HATE VII after you play VI, it's so brilliant."

"It's not until you see how amazing and deep Kefka is that you realize just how awful Sephiroth is. Sephiroth sucks, man, and Kefka will show you why."

"Cloud is such a shitty character. Every character in Final Fantasy VII is shit, man, you'll see when you play VI what a Final Fantasy game should be."

I still have no idea what Final Fantasy VI is about, and I've gotten it pitched at me by hundreds of people. I get it. Everybody hates Final Fantasy VII because all popular things are shit. You're such an edgy, rebellious nonconformist.

Except you're not.
You've just pointed out exactly why I hate the Final Fantasy fanbase... Because they do this for every game and for some reason, they always and I do mean always compare them to VII. It gets annoying.
 

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The original portal was killed for me by all the fans. I played the game and it was decent but all the people claiming its the greatest game ever made and that it had some of the best jokes ever and I played it and I didn't see any of it. And the ever funny "The cake is a lie" bit wasn't even that funny to me, and whenever I hear someone say it I want to do terrible things to them.
 

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Vrex360 said:
I love the Mass Effect games and yet ever since I joined the Bioware Social Network (as a way to socialize with other fans of Ashley Williams without fear of being picked on) more and more stuff has just started to piss me off.
So many vicious debates and flamewars, they just divide into different groups depending on who you like and snipe bitterly at each other across the board. I've spent more time angrily having to defend my position on things among Mass Effect fans then on ANY OTHER FORUM.

To be fair though, they aren't all bad and in places I find some great people who are fun to talk to, so I guess that's enough to justify why the fanbase hasn't totally turned me off Mass Effect games yet.
I tell you, I liked Ashley so much more than Kaiden, and it sucks, cause I'm a girl and I like to play as girls. It would be interesting to learn more about your Mass Effect opinions. I try not to get flamey about it, I promise.

OP - Can't say I really have run into a game like that, but I honestly don't play a lot of games online. I've become less pleased with games and game series over time, but never because of the rest of the fans.
 

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Raika said:
Final Fantasy VI's fans have made the game seem extremely undesirable to me. I have yet to have Final Fantasy VI pitched to me in a way that isn't just a massive Final Fantasy VII bash.

"Oh, man, it's so much better than VII. You'll HATE VII after you play VI, it's so brilliant."

"It's not until you see how amazing and deep Kefka is that you realize just how awful Sephiroth is. Sephiroth sucks, man, and Kefka will show you why."

"Cloud is such a shitty character. Every character in Final Fantasy VII is shit, man, you'll see when you play VI what a Final Fantasy game should be."

I still have no idea what Final Fantasy VI is about, and I've gotten it pitched at me by hundreds of people. I get it. Everybody hates Final Fantasy VII because all popular things are shit. You're such an edgy, rebellious nonconformist.

Except you're not.
I do agree that Final Fantasy VI fans are often too much this way.

I personally like VI better than VII myself. And I can see where they are coming from. But it still annoys the heck out of me how far they take it.

For the record, Sephiroth has much better characterization than Kefka.
 

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Reading the responses in this thread, it's little wonder that gamers are still subject to stigma.

If someone loves a game, let them. If someone bugs you online, mute them. If someone acts stuck up about what games they like, ignore them. Pick your battles people. This shit isn't worth the hate.
 

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Idsertian said:
Halo: Reach. Game is great, possibly one of the best Halo games to date (second maybe to ODST), but by god the multiplayer scene is shite. There's always some ragey dickhead who thinks he's god's gift to gaming, some spawncaming fucktard(s)or someone exploiting a map glitch somewhere.

Gah.
There are multiple things wrong here

1. if someone's annoying, mute them
2. spawncamping is a strategy, and if given the opportunity you'd spawn trap too, you wouldn't back off to give the opponent the chance to gain map control
3. The only map glitch known in the game was taken off the playlists months ago
4. In terms of competitiveness Halo: Reach is actually the worst of all the Halo's. The DMR Bloom adds a random element to the game that rewards the unskilled if they spam and get lucky and it slows down the killtimes and gameplay
 

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anime in general. the very reason i hate anime is because i used to be into it when i was waaaaaaaaaay younger. i was made fun of for it, and once i grew up, grew a pair, and realized what was wrong with anime; literally everyone else who was into it (or everyone most people noticed) were otakus, and even comic book nerds and geeks resent them, and thats sad.
 

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World of Warcrap. I tried it out back in like grade 10, but didn't really care for it too much so I dismissed it. But by grade 11 pretty much everyone in my whole school played it and they TROLLED me for not liking it.

Back then I didn't know to "not feed the trolls" so it just got worse and worse. I'd have people walking past me in the hallways going "WoW has the best graphics out of every game ever", etc, etc.

Eventually I wrote a three verse song and a 6800-word essay filled with research and facts about why WoW was one of the worst games ever. And I printed copies and handed it out to people. Believe it or not it actually shut them up.

But yeah. I hate WoW and its fanatics.
 

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This isn't exactly a place to disagree on such things. But Eastern animation has a huge variety of fans. And that sounds about as stereotyping and closed minded as anime fans who say they hate cartoons. Of course this thread is going to be off, but honestly I do have to take a bit of issue with that statement. The Western comic and animation fans that resent anime are often the type who are elitists for those Western things. No matter what anyone would say, it's not less geeky to be a fan of Deadpool than Revy.

Both Eastern and Western animation have great works and great fans. And I hate how animation is being polarized by people such as yourself.

And the people who made fun of you for it were closed minded fools.

Actually... this topic is about games. Why are you talking about anime here?
 

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Know what's bad? I have a freaking Kingdom Hearts avatar and I can't stand the fans of the series. I don't mean the ones who just play the games and generally think they are fun, I mean the ones that never shut up about the story, spam news about the newest game, pair up every single character and write an entire essay every time a new armor boss is announced (this gets really bad since every armor is apparently foreshadowing of the next game) while yelling, "Got it Memorized?"
EDIT: I still love the games and get excited whenever a new one comes out but me admitting that gets me flamed almost everywhere because the general populace can't tell the normal fans from the vocal minority that ruins the perception of a very fun series.
 

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agentorange98 said:
Is there a game you really like or even just like that you don't like to admit you like because of how terrible the fans of the game are or even can't enjoy as much because of how everywhere the fans of the game are? For me it'd probably be Halo
I'll have to support your Halo comment, on grounds that I am a person who felt unable to pursue it because of the fans. I also find that Soul Calibur lost its appeal after 3, because 3 had extra stuff for more replay value and 4 is JUST a fighting game...
 

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Just valve fans (will generiscise here) they are always pompous and self righteous and are usually first to bash games they don't like.
 

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Raika said:
Final Fantasy VI's fans have made the game seem extremely undesirable to me. I have yet to have Final Fantasy VI pitched to me in a way that isn't just a massive Final Fantasy VII bash.

"Oh, man, it's so much better than VII. You'll HATE VII after you play VI, it's so brilliant."

"It's not until you see how amazing and deep Kefka is that you realize just how awful Sephiroth is. Sephiroth sucks, man, and Kefka will show you why."

"Cloud is such a shitty character. Every character in Final Fantasy VII is shit, man, you'll see when you play VI what a Final Fantasy game should be."

I still have no idea what Final Fantasy VI is about, and I've gotten it pitched at me by hundreds of people. I get it. Everybody hates Final Fantasy VII because all popular things are shit. You're such an edgy, rebellious nonconformist.

Except you're not.
I'd give FF6 a go if you're in to the older style of JRPGs, in regards to the whole "It's better than FF7" reasoning for giving it a go, I genuinely preferred 7 over that, and honestly, 8 over them all, but if you're interested in those types of games, give FF6 a go, it's a good game, but it just depends on your tastes.
 

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If you look hard enough every game has fans who ruined it. It may just be that your playing styles don't mesh effectively or that (and my favorite) most people are jerks, sometimes. Ether way after reading over the comments most people are just like cod and halo or wow and although each and every one of them are valid points and anyone who has ever been gear ninja ed or noob tubed knows what i mean but recently i have noticed that space marine online is just as bad online, and don't even get me started on dead island. There's nothing worse then playing co-op with some one who A you can't communicate with and B you don't know (know that may sound bad, but it's not as fun).

Despite getting off topic a little, fan boys that fall in love with not a game but with a series or "universe", the people that buy anything they release, no matter how bad and still say they love it.
 

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i love all the halo games and i play call of duty also but in ANY game EVER MADE there are people who WILL find a way to be a dick in said game. MW2 keeps coming up in my mind for "game ruined by its fans"....not that it was a great game to start out with, though.
 

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BlueSinbad said:
I'd give FF6 a go if you're in to the older style of JRPGs, in regards to the whole "It's better than FF7" reasoning for giving it a go, I genuinely preferred 7 over that, and honestly, 8 over them all, but if you're interested in those types of games, give FF6 a go, it's a good game, but it just depends on your tastes.
I'm sure the game is fine by its own merits, and because it's a single-player game, when I finally do get around to it, it'll be easy for me to simply disregard how obnoxious its fans have been in my experiences with them. I do have quite a back log of games, though... quite a back log indeed. First I have to finish BioShock, then I have to burn through Final Fantasy VII, then I have to decide whether the next game I play will be Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy Tactics, Infamous, Lost Odyssey, or Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine.
 

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The majority of popular game series' in modern gaming really.

They all have a problem of a large and blindly subservient chunk of their fanbase who become apologists for weak plots and game flaws and declare their personal guarantees to purchase the sequel after the first teaser trailer; in the meantime obstructing any and all forms of criticism toward the developer's direction and praising the addition of puddle-deep gimmicks over addressing existing issues, right the way up until release.

"The original was never about (...) it was about being a badass, and they're just making it even better by ramping up the badassness."

Classic example of rhetoric that sees stealth games mutate into dysfunctional action games and tired, generic cliche's of "style" prevail over substance.

The inevitable effect of mainstream recognition/popularity is the influx of people who have low standards and can't recognise art when they see it. Then comes the natural clash between those who must be able to engage their brain to be entertained, and a much larger crowd for whom almost-complete disengagement of their brain is imperative for their entertainment. Usually played out across smaller scaled battles over individual topics or the different interpretations of "suspension of disbelief" and such.

A few immediate examples to me of games ruined by fans:

Final Fantasy
Modern Capcom fighting games
Assassin's Creed (gradual decay)
Devil May Cry
 

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Minecraft. I was working at a Gamestop when it came out and had a dozen screeching harpies come up to me daily at work telling me how I need to play RIGHT NOW . . . while at work apparently. Killed it forever.