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The White Hunter

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TheKasp said:
Yopaz said:
Sure, there are bad Pokemon in earlier generations too, but then they actually had to make enough to fill a game. Now they have the luxury of using older generations and focusing on making the new generation good rather than plentiful. Also the new generation got more than just the ice cream cone, it also got Pidove which is pretty much a Pidgey, even the name is similar. It got Woobat which is a different design of Zubat, also with an almost identical name. There's Klink, Klang and Klingklang which follows the same concept as Magnemite when they evolve. There's Baltoy and Yamask.

I'm not saying that there weren't bad Pokemon before, I'm not that clouded by nostalgia. I think the Pokemon series is improving in terms of style and battle system. However the newest generation seems kinda lazy to me. Are you really disagreeing with me when I say they should focus on quality rather than quantity?
I agree with the basic idea that no further game needs another basic bird line (which in terms of story is understandable that there is about always a new one) or another Ratata-esque normal type that no one is ever going to use outside of the story. But sadly, if they are going the same route as they did with Black and White (aka new region and only new Pokes until a certain point) it is understandable that they remade some things that are just basic (like another bloody bat that swarms me whenever I enter a cave). Though I find the typing of Woobat / Swoobat more appealing than Crobat.

It is enough room to argue about the designs in Pokemon, I never wanted to imply that all of them are good, since gen 1 designs were hit or miss with only a few that are widely accepted as good looking.

I also don't disagree with quality over quantity. But I disagree with the implication that this is not the route they are taking right now. Black and White had, in my humble opinion, the best set of Pokes with a wide array of typings to choose from (fire/bug? FUCK YEAH!) with a lot of designs that work especially well in the setting (Yamask in the ruins is just one type of creepy in consideration of its Pokedex entry).

Also, Baltoy and Yamask? They have about nothing in common, not even in terms of design...
Black and White are the best pokemon games since Gold and Silver, in my opinion, and probably have the most pokemon I really like out of any generation. BW really refreshed the franchise imo, Diamond and Pearl were kinda weak though.

As you said, if they repeat what they did with BW and have 150-ish new ones and no old ones available in a whole new place, I'm fine with that. My only issue with BW was the abscence of a post-game quest with some substance, but that's HG/SS's fault.

EDIT: Also, they were a bit easy, the hard mode in BW2 should be available from the get go ¬_¬
 

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Shadowstar38 said:
They can still do something with the Sonic games if they would stop fucking about and focus.
Colours was great, Generations was good. It's been a good franchise since Yuji Naka stopped fucking it up for everybody else. I swear that man lost his fucking mind at some point after Sonic & Knuckles.

I just hope that Sonic Team can continue the trend of not fucking the series up any more.
 

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I'd say Mario and Zelda haven't gone anywhere in years, but I love Pokémon, so I guess that would be a little hypocritical.

Sonic (your mileage may vary) and Final Fantasy at least try to do something with the series.
 

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Whiskey 041 said:
Call of Duty and Pokemon.

CoD needs to cease to exist, whilst Pokemon could continue making games, just stop, STOP introducing new Pokemon. Vanilluxe, OMGWTF!
While i don't care enough about COD to wish it to stop, i agree with the pokemon comment, i loved pokemon as a kid but it has just gone to ridiculous lengths to increase the number of the little buggers and while the over all story and game elements seem to be getting better the sloppy addition of new pokemon is just making it seem lazy.
 

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TheKasp said:
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Valve has not released a statement about Half Life for roughly 3 or 4 years by now. Everytime HL is in the news it is not Valves fault, they ride the "we announce when there is something to announce" train. And furthermore: Half Life had 4(!) games of which the last was released in 2007.
ToastiestZombie said:
Weealzabob said:
Wait, wut? Valve has done 4 Half Life games so far (not counting expansions and multiplayer), and they left the last game on a massive cliffhanger and haven't released a Half Life game since 2007. In the meantime they've revitalized Team Fortress, made Left 4 Dead, made Portal into a franchise, made an official sequel to Dota and done another Counter Strike. How are Valve "in your faces" about a series that hasn't had a game in 6 years?
I was being sarcastic guys. I know all about Valve's other franchises, and I know that the only official recognition that Valve have given towards Half Life 3 has been denying it's existence.

Well anyway sorry about the misunderstanding. :-(
 

ToastiestZombie

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Sarcasm on the internet, my only weakness :p

Little tip, next time put /sarcasm at the end of it. Will lessen the impact of it, but prevent misunderstandings.
 

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Half Life. Valve are so in our faces about it, you can never seem to get away the bloody series! I mean come on, try another franchise for God's sake?!
Heh heh. I saw the sarcasm.

For me, I think any franchise can stay around for 5+ entries but ONLY if the devs take their time with each game and release them with a fair gap in-between. Otherwise people are going to be a lot more susceptible to pointing out similarities to "last year's game" and develop franchise fatigue quickly.
So Zelda and GTA can stick around for eternity for all I care, just as long as they keep doing things the way they are now with releases.

Franchises like Silent Hill on the other hand really need to stop shooting themselves in the foot.
 

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Well i'd say Final Fantasy just because it's been going on for forever and a day but I stopped keeping up with them so they might be new and fresh every time *shrug*
 

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Whiskey 041 said:
Call of Duty and Pokemon.

CoD needs to cease to exist, whilst Pokemon could continue making games, just stop, STOP introducing new Pokemon. Vanilluxe, OMGWTF!
*Googles it* Holy shit that's actually a thing.



I was never a huge Pokémon fan, though I did watch the show and collect the cards as any self-respecting ten year old would, but damn this is getting silly.

Well you've got to milk the cash cow while you still find more money than shame.
 

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halo, bring on the hate.
You're new here, aren't you? Trust me no one will be jumping to defend Halo on these forums.
[small]Even though I like the series...[/small]

OT: Maybe make less CoD games with better writers is all I can say, other than that I wouldn't get rid of any.
 

Mr F.

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Hmmm.

All of them, Games are just a blight on human history, draining resources away from useful pastimes, like wanking.

In other words? None of them. As long as people still enjoy them, they should continue to exist, regardless of the perceived damage being done to whatever series people want to end. I love games. All games. And hell, if a franchise gets run into the ground, it is a good thing. It means game developers learn.

Bacon.
 

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TheKasp said:
None. I have no problems ignoring series that I dislike, it is not like someone is sitting behind me and shoveling them in my face.
Pretty much this. It doesn't bother me that games like Black Ops 2 are coming out, I just don't buy them?
 

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Whiskey 041 said:
I want to see a Pokemon universe kind of thing.


I'm hoping the Call of Duty and Gears of War don't make it to the next console generation.
I'm also tempted to say Halo.
 

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Pretty much every Nintendo franchise. Hell, Nintendo as a whole.

They don't do anything to move the industry forwards, artistically. And their games are just retellings/ rehashes of past games.
 

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I'm gonna say Assassin's Creed. I would've fine with it now that they've finally moved on from Ezio though but if they start making a bunch of sort of sequels starring the new guy...

lRookiel said:
Final fantasy, just die already.

/Flameshield
Here's the thing about saying Final Fantasy should end. Each one is unrelated to the other aside from a couple little elements like moogles and chocobos. My point iFinal Fantasy games are just JRPGs, albeit with bigger production values, and you wouldn't notice the difference if one had the name "Final Fantasy" or not.
 

Yopaz

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TheKasp said:
I agree with the basic idea that no further game needs another basic bird line (which in terms of story is understandable that there is about always a new one) or another Ratata-esque normal type that no one is ever going to use outside of the story. But sadly, if they are going the same route as they did with Black and White (aka new region and only new Pokes until a certain point) it is understandable that they remade some things that are just basic (like another bloody bat that swarms me whenever I enter a cave). Though I find the typing of Woobat / Swoobat more appealing than Crobat.

It is enough room to argue about the designs in Pokemon, I never wanted to imply that all of them are good, since gen 1 designs were hit or miss with only a few that are widely accepted as good looking.

I also don't disagree with quality over quantity. But I disagree with the implication that this is not the route they are taking right now. Black and White had, in my humble opinion, the best set of Pokes with a wide array of typings to choose from (fire/bug? FUCK YEAH!) with a lot of designs that work especially well in the setting (Yamask in the ruins is just one type of creepy in consideration of its Pokedex entry).

Also, Baltoy and Yamask? They have about nothing in common, not even in terms of design...
The thing is, all this is your opinion. In your opinion the last gen is the best. In my opinion and by several of my friends and a lot of others it is not. You might not see the similarity in design of Baltoy and Yamask, but that's you, not me.

You say it's understandable to remake the basics and I have never said anything against this. It's understandable because they lack the inspiration to make something new. You refer to it as understandable, I refer to it as unnecessary. We got Pidgey and Zubat, we don't need new Pokemon that basically have the same name and look, it just seems like a number game now. Now I am not trying to say that the newest Pokemon games were bad, I loved them. I simply want them to work more on design of the Pokemon and not care about introducing a vast quantity of Pokemon. New starters, possibly new evolutions, a few interesting new wild Pokemon and some legendaries with some sort of story relevance. You claim to have no problem ignoring a series you do not like, try to ignore the fact that some people have opinions you do not like. I am not stating facts, I am stating opinions and so are you.
 

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None...


IMO, make 10000000000000 sequels of whatever you want, If I dont like it, I will ignore it. End of story.

Never undestood the hate towards "milking" a franchine. You know, maybe you can ignore it and let the people who enjoy the games alone? This specially applies to those who complain about sequels SOLELY based on the fact than it is a sequel, even whit the game itself not begin out, or there begin videos of gameplay, or ANYTHING AT ALL.

If you tell me than you hate sequels because you feel than the companies are just in for the money regardless of the quality of the game itself, well thats a bit more understable, but a LOT of people just rage at sequels just because they are sequels...

Lets take COD for example. I like those games, and for me, at least, they can make COD games every single year and I will be fine, if you dont like it then ignore it instead of raging all over the place witch just gives the game free publicity (Well, in COD case its not like it does make that much difference, but my point still gets across). Will I get tired of COD? Maybe. Then I will just move on to other games. THE END.

Excuse the lack of proper grammar, English is not my lenguage.
 

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There's probably more than a few series out there suffering from sequelitis and who really should be allowed to die off. Personally, I can only really think of Final Fantasy. Yes, the series has created many, many fond memories for me and, I'm certain, the rest of the Escapist community, but the series is over the hill. It had a good run, but if the declining quality of the games continues, I'd rather they just stop making them while the memories of the series are still somewhat rosy.

I don't want Final Fantasy to end its illustrious career like Ultima did... Ultima IX... the horror... the horror...
 

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Ryanrulez5 said:
people i created this fourm to find out what game series you dont like anymore not an argument make war together not war
Yeah, guys. Make war, not war.

Anyways, I would agree and say nothing because sometimes sequels come out that are unexpectedly better than their predecessors.
If I HAD to put an end to one, though, it would be CoD, as so many others have said, simply because I wanna see a new, more innovative shooter have the room in the market to take the spotlight for a bit.
Also, agree with the Pokémon thing: new games shouldn't just add new 'mons. I'd like to see a new gen that adds none at all, but switches up the story and gameplay and generally freshens the series up a bit.
 

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I loved the MGS and the God of War Series and I don't want the milking of these series to make it stagnate by drowning us with the same thing over and over again. God of War prequels need to just end. You can only add so much to Kratos' backstory before he killed Ares. Kudos to MGS though for still remaining to be a confusing story rollercoaster while trying to mix up the gameplay with every release.